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***OFFICIAL*** OU vs LSU Sugar Bowl thread (BCS = Big Scam, USC #1, where's shinerburke?)

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They got those sacks because they forced Michigan out of their game. Maybe they could do the same thing again and again, maybe not.

I'm not arguing that Michigan is as good as USC, they aren't. But the reason they aren't is because they're inconsistent.
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
Michigan doesn't win 9/10 against USC anywhere...come on guys...9 sacks is a total physical mis-match..that isn't a fluke...that is an O-line, that, while very effective for the most part in the running game, clearly has issues against speed pash rushes, and USC's D line is about as fast as you are going to see in NCAA football...teams with offenses less powerful than Michigan's were able to score some points against USC, but they clearly had better pass-protecting lines than Michigan has...USC had 6 weeks of dead time too...and Michigan, while on the road, had 15,000+ fans there, so it wasn't all boos for them....
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-Those sacks came because Michigan fell behind early and went out of their game plan to an almost exclusive pass attack. As a result, USC could afford to send blitz packages play after play with no running game to keep them honest.

-USC had 2 less weeks of down time.

-I was AT the game. There was no comparison on the number of fans on each side or the stadium noise. USC played a home game, plain and simple. And Michigan struggles out west.

-I agree with DPS above - Michigan is not as good as USC this year but only because it has been less consistent.
 
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: jerkdiggler
ya, take away USC's passing game by means of snow and Michigan has a chance. But if its not snowing haling or a tornado, USC destroys Michigan time and time again.
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Michigan's power is not just in defense, it is in the offense's ability to burn clock and dominating Time of Possession. Even in the loss, Michigan won the TOP battle. Had a couple of big breaks not gone USC's way (Edwards' dropped ball that would have been a sure TD on first drive, ball bouncing off his foot into USC's hands on another drive) it would have been a VERY different ball game.
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USC backed off in the 4th. They had the game won, they were not trying to drive up the score.

 
well i am glad that atleast everyone here is not assuming LSU is gonna walk all over USC, they are both champions in my book

it wub be a great matchup
and i think USC's offense wud do much better and than OU's or even Micghan's for that matter against LSU's defenes

LSU wud find it hard to get to our QB, USC"s offense is fast and relies on short passing rather than moon balls Mr Heisman likes to throw

and Matt Leinart hasnt throwing many picks at all this year


you cant count out Norm Chow, i am sure he wud come up with a way to counter Nick Saban's fast paced defense
 
USC (12 and 1) Beat 2 teams with 9 or more wins,
Played one ranked team throughout the season
and loss one game to an unranked team.

LSU 13 and 1) Beat 5 teams with 9 or more wins
Played 4 ranked teams throughout the season
and loss one game to a ranked team.

Why Share?
 
Originally posted by: LSUfan
USC (12 and 1) Beat 2 teams with 9 or more wins,
Played one ranked team throughout the season
and loss one game to an unranked team.

LSU 13 and 1) Beat 5 teams with 9 or more wins
Played 4 ranked teams throughout the season
and loss one game to a ranked team.

Why Share?
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coz its stupid to decide whoz the champion based on how your oponents played this year and not you

 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: jerkdiggler
ya, take away USC's passing game by means of snow and Michigan has a chance. But if its not snowing haling or a tornado, USC destroys Michigan time and time again.
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Michigan's power is not just in defense, it is in the offense's ability to burn clock and dominating Time of Possession. Even in the loss, Michigan won the TOP battle. Had a couple of big breaks not gone USC's way (Edwards' dropped ball that would have been a sure TD on first drive, ball bouncing off his foot into USC's hands on another drive) it would have been a VERY different ball game.
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USC backed off in the 4th. They had the game won, they were not trying to drive up the score.
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USC didn't back off until their final possession with 2:26 remaining and the game in hand. Up until then they were still throwing plenty of pass plays on both of their possessions and drove all the way to the 20 until they fumbled. Play-by-play
 
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: LSUfan
USC (12 and 1) Beat 2 teams with 9 or more wins,
Played one ranked team throughout the season
and loss one game to an unranked team.

LSU 13 and 1) Beat 5 teams with 9 or more wins
Played 4 ranked teams throughout the season
and loss one game to a ranked team.

Why Share?
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coz its stupid to decide whoz the champion based on how your oponents played this year and not you
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LSU did not lose to an unranked team
 
Originally posted by: LSUfan
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: LSUfan
USC (12 and 1) Beat 2 teams with 9 or more wins,
Played one ranked team throughout the season
and loss one game to an unranked team.

LSU 13 and 1) Beat 5 teams with 9 or more wins
Played 4 ranked teams throughout the season
and loss one game to a ranked team.

Why Share?
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coz its stupid to decide whoz the champion based on how your oponents played this year and not you
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LSU did not lose to an unranked team
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ok man i am not gonna get into the CAL v/s Florida argument again (who actually finished pretty close at the end as it turns out)

LSU played very well this year, so did USC,

have a good one

🙂
 
At the begin of the season, ALL major college football conferences agreed with the BCS format and rules. The # 1 and #2 will compete for the national championship. Why suddendly we have to change the rules? If you don't like the rules, then change it for next year. Just don't change it so it will suite your taste.

P.S. I still think LSU and USC should be in the Sugar bowl and ALL conferences should play a conference championship game, no exception.
 
Originally posted by: Svnla
P.S. I still think LSU and USC should be in the Sugar bowl and ALL conferences should play a conference championship game, no exception.
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Does the Big Ten have to have an actual conference championship game in name, or can we keep calling it "the OSU-Michigan game"?
 
Originally posted by: Svnla
At the begin of the season, ALL major college football conferences agreed with the BCS format and rules. The # 1 and #2 will compete for the national championship. Why suddendly we have to change the rules? If you don't like the rules, then change it for next year. Just don't change it so it will suite your taste. P.S. I still think LSU and USC should be in the Sugar bowl and ALL conferences should play a conference championship game, no exception.
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you are right, it was agreed upon

but i think this is the first time that this kinda scenario occured, no 1 in teams ap and coaches polls didnt make it, BCS was smart enuf to imagine that could be possible

anyway, both the winners were very good
 
Originally posted by: LSUfan

LSU did not lose to an unranked team
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Nope, they lost to a team that finished 24th or 25th, depending on which poll you like better. On the other hand, Florida was ranked 22nd in the NYT computer and Cal was ranked 23rd.
 
Originally posted by: Svnla
At the begin of the season, ALL major college football conferences agreed with the BCS format and rules. The # 1 and #2 will compete for the national championship. Why suddendly we have to change the rules? If you don't like the rules, then change it for next year. Just don't change it so it will suite your taste.
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The rules only state that they play for the BCS national championship. That is only one of many that the NCAA recognizes. You can see who won which championship here: http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.html Interestingly enough, USC was national champions last year also.
 
That's bull. Where does it say the NCAA "recognizes" any of those ? It's just a all-inclusive list, Dullard should send his in there too.
 
If USC and LSU were to play in two weeks to decide an undisputed National Champ, I'd put money on LSU and I'd predict a final score of 24-14 LSU over USC.

As far as all conferences having a conference championship game. NCAA rules state that a conference must have 12 members before it can do that. So the Big 10 needs one more team (yeah, called Big 10 and has 11 team, go figure), and in two years the ACC will be able to start having one.

As far as next years top team. I expect to see UGA in the top 5 all year if they can manage to avoid injuries to half their team like they had this year.
 
I think it's cool 200 kids are national champs rather than just 100. Sure it's controversial as it will always be w/o a playoffs...even so, with pro-footballs spurious single elimination playoff schema, one bad play like a turnover in football can skew that. You want perfection? Watch professional basketball/baseball/hockey with best of 7.
 
what i find ironic it the BCS was created specifically to do away with split national champions, yet the only reason why there is a split this year is because of the BCS! prior to the BCS, if the #1 team in both polls solidly won their bowl game against a tough opponent they would remain #1 in both polls, no doubt about it.
 
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