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*Official* Ongoing Police Misconduct Thread -- Experiment Terminated 6/27/14

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How the fuck are people saying her actually discharging the gun was reasonable?? Elderly people are stricken with horrible mental conditions, and they sometimes aren't "nice old people."

I've had an elderly person tell me he wanted to kill me, and I saw him reach into his pocket to get a pocket knife. Thankfully his children had the common sense of not letting him carry a pocket knife, because I asked them if he had one and they said "not anymore"

If that old fucker would have brought out the knife, I can guarantee he would have made good on that threat to try and knife me. He was completely gone with dimentia and honestly thought I, a complete stranger, was a threat.
 
mizzou said:
How the fuck are people saying her actually discharging the gun was reasonable?? Elderly people are stricken with horrible mental conditions, and they sometimes aren't "nice old people."

I've had an elderly person tell me he wanted to kill me, and I saw him reach into his pocket to get a pocket knife. Thankfully his children had the common sense of not letting him carry a pocket knife, because I asked them if he had one and they said "not anymore"

If that old fucker would have brought out the knife, I can guarantee he would have made good on that threat to try and knife me. He was completely gone with dimentia and honestly thought I, a complete stranger, was a threat.
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exactly. I don't care she fired into the ground.

sorry she was killed but damn i don't fault the cops on this one.
 
TheSiege said:
If she had a gun, who gives a shit what age, race or gender she was. They are even saying she fired off her weapon. I am as liberal as most and even I think that this cop did nothing wrong. I know all the facts haven't come to light yet. But if you have a weapon and fire it around a cop, you're gonna have a bad time.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ho-fatally-shot-93-year-old-is-fired/8966087/
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By the way this cop has shot two people within less than two years. I suspect that there is much more to the story that led to his firing. Link here
 
the story of the cop arresting the 9 yr old is fucked up. that is one situation the cop should have used some common sense. it was a schoolyard fight. not a group of kids beating one down to the point they are in the hospital.

he should have given a lecture instead of trying to intimidate her. then when that didn't work he arrested her? wow.


that situation could have been handled better.
 
Here we possibly go again.

http://youtu.be/8uGARyCs_Z0?t=8s

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This is breaking from a local source:
http://www.wcvb.com/news/police-swat-respond-to-brentwood-home-after-shots-fire/25939714#!MU0vl


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Oh good heavens, what did I just found here http://www.infowars.com/alex-predicts-torching-of-chris-dorner/

ivwshane said:
repeatedly proven wrong.
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I Score!

I could score a few more, but I'll pop the champagne "prematurely".
 
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meh.. shoot at the cops.. get killed.. they really don't want people who shoot at cops going through the 'legal system' that will just feed them on public money for the next 40 years. Some things are better left unknown.

I don't understand how anyone could possibly think that fighting the cops, or worse, shooting at them, will end well.
 
waggy said:
the story of the cop arresting the 9 yr old is fucked up. that is one situation the cop should have used some common sense. it was a schoolyard fight. not a group of kids beating one down to the point they are in the hospital.

he should have given a lecture instead of trying to intimidate her. then when that didn't work he arrested her? wow.


that situation could have been handled better.
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Agreed..
 
a flashbang could start a fire i think. they are known to start field fires.

anyway, we have a thread dedicated to points of views of police misconduct
 
mizzou said:
a flashbang could start a fire i think. they are known to start field fires.

anyway, we have a thread dedicated to points of views of police misconduct
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Even if they start a fire, when used as intended it should not matter. The idea is to toss one in a room and as soon as it goes off the entry unit goes in with overwhelming force and subdue and occupants. They are not an offensive weapon where you throw it and forget about it.
 
Remember the cops quoted from the Dorner case saying "burn baby burn"? I often wonder if they do this because they want to see a giant bon fire. That house blew up btw. It wasn't just the fire, but a big blow up in that video.
 
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The gunpowder powered JPX Pepper Gun launches OC (pepper spray) at 405 mph.


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“Her eyeballs were literally blown into pieces, and the person who did this was a police officer.”


Monique Hernandez was pulled over in February of 2012 by Beaumont police officer, Enoch Clark. When Clark attempted to subdue Hernandez, he said she ‘resisted.’

Although the dashcam footage tells a different tale, Clark said that in order to get her in handcuffs, he had to use his department-issued JPX gunpowder-propelled pepper spray weapon and fire it less than a foot away from her face.

The gunpowder powered JPX Pepper Gun launches OC (pepper spray) at 405 mph.


The results from firing the gun at such a close proximity were catastrophic.

The blast of pepper gel sliced her right eye in half, fractured her right orbital bone and severed the optic nerve in her left eye.

Clark was indicted on four felony counts of assault by a police officer and causing great bodily injury.


Link to article
 
Would an eye for an eye be appropriate punishment here?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Horrible story, I get goosebumps just reading it...
 
Late last week, a complaint was filed in the Terrance Franklin case, which has attracted a lot of attention locally - http://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/05/09/terrance-franklin-lawsuit

The short summary is that Franklin was sought in connection with some residential burglaries, and some Minneapolis police officers went to his house in May 2013 to talk to him. He fled on foot and ended up in the basement of another property. The police followed him on foot. Once in the basement, according to the police, Franklin grabbed one officer's MP5 and shot two other officers. The police on the scene then shot him ten times, killing him. Some time after the shooting, a neighbor recovered a gun which Franklin had apparently dropped between his house and the house where he died. A subsequent investigation confirmed that Franklin's DNA was on the MP5.

The complaint, which is at that link, claims that one officer shot the two others by accident, and that the officers on the scene then murdered Franklin.

As it happens I know both of the plaintiff's lawyers. One, Mike Padden, is among the least principled and least competent trial lawyers I have ever met (and I have met hundreds). He previously bungled another very difficult case involving a young man named Fong Lee, who was shot by Minneapolis police officers (the trial judge nearly removed Padden and his co-counsel from the case after Padden projected a gory photo of the decedent which had not been introduced into evidence, causing the dead kid's mother to break down in tears), and has handled a handful of high-visibility cases, always poorly in my opinion. The other, Ashwin Madia, is a bright young guy, and I'm surprised he was willing to put his name on this complaint. I expect he will live to regret it.

The complaint is, in my view, poorly and irresponsibly written, and needlessly inflammatory, using the N word time after time in an effort to paint the police as racists. (Padden claims that a cell phone video taken at the scene depicts officers using the N word - I have listened to it repeatedly - it is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pchF5_qoRg - and hear no such thing.) I consider it tactically stupid to write such a fire-breathing complaint, because it pretty well dooms any chance of the case settling. I expect that if the case reaches trial the defense will win with relative ease. We shall see . . .
 
The Dallas City Council approved a $105,000 settlement Wednesday for a man who alleged that officers used excessive force on him during the execution of a search warrant in January 2010 at his home.

Although significantly smaller than recent payouts, the settlement was the latest in a string of high-profile, six-figure lawsuits against the police department in recent years.

Danny Cantu alleged that he was in his home one day when he suddenly noticed Dallas police officers running around his backyard. He alleged that officers threw a flash bang grenade in his home and busted in without warning. He said he complied with officers’ demands to get on the ground and had his hands zip-tied behind his back.

He also alleged in the complaint: “Defendants were not satisfied with shooting bombs off in Plaintiffs’ home, violently breaking the door down and screaming at Plaintiff Danny Cantu. Instead, Defendants then unjustifiably engaged in the use of excessive force by repeatedly striking Plaintiff Danny Cantu in and about the face, head and neck while he lay face down on the ground with his hands cuffed behind his back, thereby causing significant bodily injuries which rendered him unconscious and lying in a pool of his own blood.”

The officers involved denied Cantu’s allegations of excessive force. They said they obtained a no-knock search warrant because they believed Cantu was heavily involved in the trafficking of cocaine for a Mexican drug cartel. They said they recovered a sawed-off shotgun and 0.1 grams of cocaine from the house while searching the home.

Still, Cantu was never charged with a crime in connection with the search warrant.

Cantu’s attorney did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The lawsuit was approved without debate as part of the council’s consent agenda.

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These settlements should come straight out of the pension fund.

Why can't these guys execute a warrant without beating the heck out of someone?
 
Hard to argue that we haven't become a police state when even the food inspectors at the USDA are looking to buy sub-machine guns

FBO Link here

Synopsis:
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The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation. NO SOLICITATION DOCUMENT EXISTS. All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone. If received timely, shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability.
 
Oldgamer said:
Hard to argue that we haven't become a police state when even the food inspectors at the USDA are looking to buy sub-machine guns

FBO Link here

Synopsis:
Added: May 07, 2014 2:03 pm
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation. NO SOLICITATION DOCUMENT EXISTS. All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone. If received timely, shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability.
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Food inspectors? Really? At least present it honestly.

http://www.usda.gov/oig/invest.htm

OIG Special Agents conduct investigations of significant criminal activities involving USDA programs, operations, and personnel, and are authorized to make arrests, execute warrants, and carry firearms. The types of investigations conducted by OIG Special Agents involve criminal activities such as frauds in subsidy, price support, benefits, and insurance programs; significant thefts of Government property or funds; bribery; extortion; smuggling; and assaults on employees.
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Oh and they have had armed investigative agents for decades so.... Yeah... Complete BS.

Here's an example of the types of investigations they undertake.

http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/oig45.htm
 
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Oldgamer said:
Hard to argue that we haven't become a police state when even the food inspectors at the USDA are looking to buy sub-machine guns

FBO Link here

Synopsis:
Added: May 07, 2014 2:03 pm
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation. NO SOLICITATION DOCUMENT EXISTS. All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone. If received timely, shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability.
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yeah that's a little weird.
 
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