Official NPD Results For July

[michaels]

Top 10 SKU's for July
360 NCAA FOOTBALL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 1 397k
PS2 GUITAR HERO ENCORE: ROCKS THE 80S ACTIVISION (CORP) 2 339k
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA 3 278k
PS2 NCAA FOOTBALL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 4 236k
WII MARIO PARTY 8 NINTENDO OF AMERICA 5 177k
PS3 NCAA FOOTBALL 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 6 156k
NDS POKEMON DIAMOND VERSION NINTENDO OF AMERICA 7 144k
PS2 TRANSFORMERS: THE GAME ACTIVISION (CORP) 8 143k
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR ACTIVISION (CORP) 9 138k
360 GUITAR HERO 2 W/ GUITAR ACTIVISION (CORP) 10 108k
NCAA on 360 outsold the PS2/PS3 versions combined:laugh:

Wii 425 k
Nintendo DS 405 k
PlayStation 2 222k
PlayStation Portable 214k
Xbox 360 170k
PlayStation 3 159k
Game Boy Advance 87k


Sony with a price drop, MS bad press and impending price drop still didn;'t top the 360. next month the 360 will cream the PS3..oh and the Wii steam rolling all

 

[Queasy]

Wow. There were a bunch of analysts predicting that the PS3 would outsell the 360 for July too.

 

[michaels]

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[DaveSimmons]

June vs. July weekly sales and total, copied from posts by morello and iconmaster at Ars:

"Keep in mind those sales for June cover 5 weeks, as opposed to July's 4 weeks. Here's how it looks broken down to weekly sales:

June >> July sales (overall weekly change %):

Wii -- 76.3k >> 106.2k (+39.2%)
DS -- 112.4k >> 101.2k (-10.0%)
Xbox 360 -- 39.7k >> 42.5k (+7.1%)
PSP -- 58k >> 53.5k (-7.8%)
Playstation 3 -- 19.7k >> 39.8k (+102%)"

"June sales:

Wii -- 381.8k
DS -- 561.9k
Xbox 360 -- 198.4k
PSP -- 290.1k
Playstation 3 -- 98.5k"


The PS3 didn't beat the 360, but a 102% increase in sales isn't too bad. It will be very interesting to see how far back down it drops in August with the 360 price drop in place: all the way? somewhere in between?

 

[michaels]

I hope the PS3 keeps getting creamed, it will be that much quicker I can get another one for cheap:laugh:

 

[ponyo]

It's easy to increase sales 100% when you go from selling one unit a month to two. :laugh:

Wii can't be stopped. PS3 is destined for third. I don't see anything saving it.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: michaels
I hope the PS3 keeps getting creamed, it will be that much quicker I can get another one for cheap:laugh:

It's a great movie player. I'll buy another one for $300 or less.

 

[michaels]

I bought one in December then returned it..best.choice.ever

 

[DaveSimmons]

I hope the PS3 keeps putting up a fight, because competition is the only thing that keeps Microsoft honest. Once MS wins in a market, they get lazy, arrogant, and dig even deeper into your wallet.

If MS stays ahead, just not so far, they'll eventually knock some sense and humility back into Sony as well. Win-win for owners of each console.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Well the truth is that the PS3 isn't a bad machine, it's just very expensive and all their AAA games keep getting mediocre reviews. I still am impressed that the 360 did so well this month, but with the Wii moving almost 3x the number of consoles, it's obvious that MS and Sony are losing due to pricing issues.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Well the truth is that the PS3 isn't a bad machine, it's just very expensive and all their AAA games keep getting mediocre reviews. I still am impressed that the 360 did so well this month, but with the Wii moving almost 3x the number of consoles, it's obvious that MS and Sony are losing due to pricing issues.

the PS3 is actually the best machine, just has essentially the worst software. Time will change, just how much time it will take is unknown. The 360 is nearing the beginning of its 3rd year this Fall, with the PS3 approaching the beginning of its 2nd. The slow start has kind of started a circular effect that has kept away high profile exclusive development due to fear of low sales, and since no exclusives are great, sales are staying low and keeping the system in a state of, well.. low sales.

all it will likely take is a couple high caliber AAA titles, and things should start to heat up in the console race. Hopefully that time comes soon.
Me, I'm looking forward to the end of this year already... the constant talk of Halo 3 will hopefully simmer by then (and it really hasn't even started to become a problem yet, wait till September for that). Halo is a series that I just don't see why it draws the crowds it does. Specially now, when recent shooters available on consoles have blown away all that Halo once stood for. This is not any kind of fanboyism either, as I had owned an Xbox for a short time, and currently own a Wii and PS3. I have no interest in the 360 because the quality titles make themselves available on the PC, and I keep my PC prepared for games. The games I have an interest in determine my console purchases, not the other way around. with that in mind, that should make clear why I own/support the systems I do. Although, I support great competition, as it keeps the market from going down the lazy path: the higher the competition, and more fierce, the better titles we get to enjoy, especially in the realm of exclusives.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Well the truth is that the PS3 isn't a bad machine, it's just very expensive and all their AAA games keep getting mediocre reviews. I still am impressed that the 360 did so well this month, but with the Wii moving almost 3x the number of consoles, it's obvious that MS and Sony are losing due to pricing issues.

the PS3 is actually the best machine, just has essentially the worst software. Time will change, just how much time it will take is unknown. The 360 is nearing the beginning of its 3rd year this Fall, with the PS3 approaching the beginning of its 2nd. The slow start has kind of started a circular effect that has kept away high profile exclusive development due to fear of low sales, and since no exclusives are great, sales are staying low and keeping the system in a state of, well.. low sales.

all it will likely take is a couple high caliber AAA titles, and things should start to heat up in the console race. Hopefully that time comes soon.
Me, I'm looking forward to the end of this year already... the constant talk of Halo 3 will hopefully simmer by then (and it really hasn't even started to become a problem yet, wait till September for that). Halo is a series that I just don't see why it draws the crowds it does. Specially now, when recent shooters available on consoles have blown away all that Halo once stood for. This is not any kind of fanboyism either, as I had owned an Xbox for a short time, and currently own a Wii and PS3. I have no interest in the 360 because the quality titles make themselves available on the PC, and I keep my PC prepared for games. The games I have an interest in determine my console purchases, not the other way around. with that in mind, that should make clear why I own/support the systems I do. Although, I support great competition, as it keeps the market from going down the lazy path: the higher the competition, and more fierce, the better titles we get to enjoy, especially in the realm of exclusives.

I'd say the 360 has better hardware if your a developer since it's easier to program for (or so they say), although the PS3 does have potentially more horsepower overall. Obviously you are one of those people who just don't get into Halo, but trust me you're in the minority (relatively speaking). I love Halo multiplayer, but I couldn't tell you exactly why. I'd venture to guess that they have things balanced well enough that the underdog can almost always win, and it seems that they have only improved on this in Halo 3. Gears of War is another game that offers a great MP experience, but it's a very different style that really doesn't compete with the Halo style.

I will agree that if you have a gaming PC you'll catch probably 60%-80% of the 360 games that are worth having. Notable exceptions are Halo 3 (which you obviously don't care for), Mass Effect, and Dead Rising.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Well the truth is that the PS3 isn't a bad machine, it's just very expensive and all their AAA games keep getting mediocre reviews. I still am impressed that the 360 did so well this month, but with the Wii moving almost 3x the number of consoles, it's obvious that MS and Sony are losing due to pricing issues.

the PS3 is actually the best machine, just has essentially the worst software. Time will change, just how much time it will take is unknown. The 360 is nearing the beginning of its 3rd year this Fall, with the PS3 approaching the beginning of its 2nd. The slow start has kind of started a circular effect that has kept away high profile exclusive development due to fear of low sales, and since no exclusives are great, sales are staying low and keeping the system in a state of, well.. low sales.

all it will likely take is a couple high caliber AAA titles, and things should start to heat up in the console race. Hopefully that time comes soon.
Me, I'm looking forward to the end of this year already... the constant talk of Halo 3 will hopefully simmer by then (and it really hasn't even started to become a problem yet, wait till September for that). Halo is a series that I just don't see why it draws the crowds it does. Specially now, when recent shooters available on consoles have blown away all that Halo once stood for. This is not any kind of fanboyism either, as I had owned an Xbox for a short time, and currently own a Wii and PS3. I have no interest in the 360 because the quality titles make themselves available on the PC, and I keep my PC prepared for games. The games I have an interest in determine my console purchases, not the other way around. with that in mind, that should make clear why I own/support the systems I do. Although, I support great competition, as it keeps the market from going down the lazy path: the higher the competition, and more fierce, the better titles we get to enjoy, especially in the realm of exclusives.

I'd say the 360 has better hardware if your a developer since it's easier to program for (or so they say), although the PS3 does have potentially more horsepower overall. Obviously you are one of those people who just don't get into Halo, but trust me you're in the minority (relatively speaking). I love Halo multiplayer, but I couldn't tell you exactly why. I'd venture to guess that they have things balanced well enough that the underdog can almost always win, and it seems that they have only improved on this in Halo 3. Gears of War is another game that offers a great MP experience, but it's a very different style that really doesn't compete with the Halo style.

I will agree that if you have a gaming PC you'll catch probably 60%-80% of the 360 games that are worth having. Notable exceptions are Halo 3 (which you obviously don't care for), Mass Effect, and Dead Rising.

dead rising I would enjoy, and Mass Effect I somehow see being released for PC at some point down the line. I've been hearing no PC release for it, but considering no other game BioWare has made has been kept from a PC release, I can't see this being the first one.
but I'll play it on my roomie's 360 regardless, at least if he buys it. Found out my roomie for this school year has a 360, like my roomie did from last year. That should give me enough of a fix.

and if it comes down to it, when the 360 gets real cheap, I might pick one up if Mass Effect and rest of the planned trilogy is released on it and ends up not being released on the PC.

oh, and it would technically be more developer friendly hardware. better implies its well.. better. It is not proven yet as to which console has truly more potential hardware, but it has been proven that the PS3 has more reliable hardware. That = better, at least for now.
Maybe the Falcon revision will be real reliable, but who knows.

 

[mugs]

I wonder if the Sony card deal will help them as much as the price drop did?

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: destrekor

...but it has been proven that the PS3 has more reliable hardware. That = better, at least for now.

What? I'm ONLY on my second 360.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Well the truth is that the PS3 isn't a bad machine, it's just very expensive and all their AAA games keep getting mediocre reviews. I still am impressed that the 360 did so well this month, but with the Wii moving almost 3x the number of consoles, it's obvious that MS and Sony are losing due to pricing issues.

the PS3 is actually the best machine, just has essentially the worst software. Time will change, just how much time it will take is unknown. The 360 is nearing the beginning of its 3rd year this Fall, with the PS3 approaching the beginning of its 2nd. The slow start has kind of started a circular effect that has kept away high profile exclusive development due to fear of low sales, and since no exclusives are great, sales are staying low and keeping the system in a state of, well.. low sales.

all it will likely take is a couple high caliber AAA titles, and things should start to heat up in the console race. Hopefully that time comes soon.
Me, I'm looking forward to the end of this year already... the constant talk of Halo 3 will hopefully simmer by then (and it really hasn't even started to become a problem yet, wait till September for that). Halo is a series that I just don't see why it draws the crowds it does. Specially now, when recent shooters available on consoles have blown away all that Halo once stood for. This is not any kind of fanboyism either, as I had owned an Xbox for a short time, and currently own a Wii and PS3. I have no interest in the 360 because the quality titles make themselves available on the PC, and I keep my PC prepared for games. The games I have an interest in determine my console purchases, not the other way around. with that in mind, that should make clear why I own/support the systems I do. Although, I support great competition, as it keeps the market from going down the lazy path: the higher the competition, and more fierce, the better titles we get to enjoy, especially in the realm of exclusives.

I'd say the 360 has better hardware if your a developer since it's easier to program for (or so they say), although the PS3 does have potentially more horsepower overall. Obviously you are one of those people who just don't get into Halo, but trust me you're in the minority (relatively speaking). I love Halo multiplayer, but I couldn't tell you exactly why. I'd venture to guess that they have things balanced well enough that the underdog can almost always win, and it seems that they have only improved on this in Halo 3. Gears of War is another game that offers a great MP experience, but it's a very different style that really doesn't compete with the Halo style.

I will agree that if you have a gaming PC you'll catch probably 60%-80% of the 360 games that are worth having. Notable exceptions are Halo 3 (which you obviously don't care for), Mass Effect, and Dead Rising.

dead rising I would enjoy, and Mass Effect I somehow see being released for PC at some point down the line. I've been hearing no PC release for it, but considering no other game BioWare has made has been kept from a PC release, I can't see this being the first one.
but I'll play it on my roomie's 360 regardless, at least if he buys it. Found out my roomie for this school year has a 360, like my roomie did from last year. That should give me enough of a fix.

and if it comes down to it, when the 360 gets real cheap, I might pick one up if Mass Effect and rest of the planned trilogy is released on it and ends up not being released on the PC.

oh, and it would technically be more developer friendly hardware. better implies its well.. better. It is not proven yet as to which console has truly more potential hardware, but it has been proven that the PS3 has more reliable hardware. That = better, at least for now.
Maybe the Falcon revision will be real reliable, but who knows.

Until the PS3 comes *close* to the 360 in terms of hardware sales, which will be, well, never, that point doesn't matter.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: ObscureCaucasian
Well the truth is that the PS3 isn't a bad machine, it's just very expensive and all their AAA games keep getting mediocre reviews. I still am impressed that the 360 did so well this month, but with the Wii moving almost 3x the number of consoles, it's obvious that MS and Sony are losing due to pricing issues.

the PS3 is actually the best machine, just has essentially the worst software. Time will change, just how much time it will take is unknown. The 360 is nearing the beginning of its 3rd year this Fall, with the PS3 approaching the beginning of its 2nd. The slow start has kind of started a circular effect that has kept away high profile exclusive development due to fear of low sales, and since no exclusives are great, sales are staying low and keeping the system in a state of, well.. low sales.

all it will likely take is a couple high caliber AAA titles, and things should start to heat up in the console race. Hopefully that time comes soon.
Me, I'm looking forward to the end of this year already... the constant talk of Halo 3 will hopefully simmer by then (and it really hasn't even started to become a problem yet, wait till September for that). Halo is a series that I just don't see why it draws the crowds it does. Specially now, when recent shooters available on consoles have blown away all that Halo once stood for. This is not any kind of fanboyism either, as I had owned an Xbox for a short time, and currently own a Wii and PS3. I have no interest in the 360 because the quality titles make themselves available on the PC, and I keep my PC prepared for games. The games I have an interest in determine my console purchases, not the other way around. with that in mind, that should make clear why I own/support the systems I do. Although, I support great competition, as it keeps the market from going down the lazy path: the higher the competition, and more fierce, the better titles we get to enjoy, especially in the realm of exclusives.

I'd say the 360 has better hardware if your a developer since it's easier to program for (or so they say), although the PS3 does have potentially more horsepower overall. Obviously you are one of those people who just don't get into Halo, but trust me you're in the minority (relatively speaking). I love Halo multiplayer, but I couldn't tell you exactly why. I'd venture to guess that they have things balanced well enough that the underdog can almost always win, and it seems that they have only improved on this in Halo 3. Gears of War is another game that offers a great MP experience, but it's a very different style that really doesn't compete with the Halo style.

I will agree that if you have a gaming PC you'll catch probably 60%-80% of the 360 games that are worth having. Notable exceptions are Halo 3 (which you obviously don't care for), Mass Effect, and Dead Rising.

dead rising I would enjoy, and Mass Effect I somehow see being released for PC at some point down the line. I've been hearing no PC release for it, but considering no other game BioWare has made has been kept from a PC release, I can't see this being the first one.
but I'll play it on my roomie's 360 regardless, at least if he buys it. Found out my roomie for this school year has a 360, like my roomie did from last year. That should give me enough of a fix.

and if it comes down to it, when the 360 gets real cheap, I might pick one up if Mass Effect and rest of the planned trilogy is released on it and ends up not being released on the PC.

oh, and it would technically be more developer friendly hardware. better implies its well.. better. It is not proven yet as to which console has truly more potential hardware, but it has been proven that the PS3 has more reliable hardware. That = better, at least for now.
Maybe the Falcon revision will be real reliable, but who knows.

Until the PS3 comes *close* to the 360 in terms of hardware sales, which will be, well, never, that point doesn't matter.

oh come on. give it a chance

 

[Blayze]

The PS2 sales still amaze me. Yeah its only $129, but the console has been out for a long time. I thought the PS3 would have done better with the price drop.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I hope the PS3 keeps putting up a fight, because competition is the only thing that keeps Microsoft honest. Once MS wins in a market, they get lazy, arrogant, and dig even deeper into your wallet.

If MS stays ahead, just not so far, they'll eventually knock some sense and humility back into Sony as well. Win-win for owners of each console.

Couldn't agree with this more. I don't want one console to rule (like the last generation which resulted in Sony getting arrogant). I want both systems to do well and make their companies money so that both of them play in the next round.

 

[Narmer]

I don't understand why people keep "investing" hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars into their PC just to play games when they can drop their ideological bias and just get a(nother) console. It boggles the mind at all the money being wasted.

 

[EvilComputer92]

I think I was one of the rare people who had a horrible experience with their PS2 when I got one in 2002. If you put in cd rom games(like ps1 games and midnight club) instead of DVD ones, the drive would just refuse to play them, making these screeching noises while it attempted to read the disc. I tried to get it replaced with Sony, when they started asking for money to fix it, I just gave up and moved on to the Xbox.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't understand why people keep "investing" hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars into their PC just to play games when they can drop their ideological bias and just get a(nother) console. It boggles the mind at all the money being wasted.

I usually just buy mid-end stuff, so my machine is only worth about $1k (price of part; it's a lot less due to depreciation). Anyways, I'm willing to spend $1k or $1.5k just for a PC instead of all 3 major consoles because of downtime. Let's face it, good releases are pretty few and far between, and I don't like buying anything mediocre. So, sometimes I go weeks without loading a game up, just surfing WHILE watching movies or using my stereo. You could surf on the new consoles, but it's just not as comfortable (for me) and you can't minimize the movie to a quarter of your screen and going crazy on the other 3/4. I'll admit that if I had a console, I'd rent mediocre crap more often though.

However, I do want a PS3. It just needs some games to justify the $500 price tag. Ninja Gaiden and Resistance are the only things that even interest me. I'm not much of a spots game fan, so that cuts a good portion of titles off for me. The releases for the Xbox360, although nice, are too similar to PC games as I want another "world" if I got a console. Oh, and we already have one... it's just not mine and I don't use it.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't understand why people keep "investing" hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars into their PC just to play games when they can drop their ideological bias and just get a(nother) console. It boggles the mind at all the money being wasted.

People spent as much or more playing golf and on other hobbies. If oyu enjoy it and can afford it, why not?

I spent $1,600 on my gaming PC in April of 2006 and probably won't upgrade it until next year. I own a PS3 and will be buying a 65nm Flacon 360. So regardless of what platform a game comes out on I'll be able to enjoy it.

Games and my HDTV (which replaced a 10-year-old SDTV) are my only real indulgences though. The rest of the paycheck after food, rent and netflix goes into savings and my brokerage account.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't understand why people keep "investing" hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars into their PC just to play games when they can drop their ideological bias and just get a(nother) console. It boggles the mind at all the money being wasted.

Well, there are a few reasons.

1. First person shooters control better with a mouse + keyboard. Some consoles release mouse/keyboard combinations, but they are usually released late with little fanfare, and not up to the level of PC components. Even given that the PS3 and Xbox360 can accept inputs from PC mice and keyboards, the majority of gamers will never use them, and the games are not designed to take advantage of that control scheme.

2. LAN parties are fun. Can you imagine trying to get a bunch of consoles and TVs wired for a giant LAN party? It doesn't work. PCs are easy to transport because of the relative smallness of the screens (as opposed to a TV for a console). They have been designed to network for decades rather than in the last few years, and it is generally much easier to set up a large network of PCs than it is to network a lot of consoles.

3. Downloadable content. This is rapidly increasing on consoles, but it is much larger on the PC, especially when talking about user-created modifications (which are non-existant on consoles). If I can choose between running Oblivion on my PS3 with no mods, or on my PC with any number of the hundreds or thousands of mods out there, I'm going to opt for the PC version. Granted, it would be nice to see it running on a big screen TV, but since most HDTVs now accept inputs from a PC, that's a moot point.

4. Tying in to downloadable content is customizability; from user modifications to changing specific graphics options, PCs have a clear advantage in configuration variety. Most console games allow you to set numerous options, like control scheme, sound options, even resolution scaling (ie 720p vs. 1080p). But when was the last console game that let you change anisotropic filtering settings, or anti-aliasing, or let you decide whether you wanted volumetric fog or soft shadows? Some modern console games use HDR, and stutter when you try to run at 1080p; where's the option to disable the effects at higher resolutions? PC games give the user a high level of customizability (and if they don't, someone's probably created a workaround).

5. Computers do other things. If you buy a console, you're not using it to type up a term paper, review an Excel document for work, update your NetFlix queue or file your taxes (granted, you can do more and more of this on today's consoles, but using a web browser through a console is much more cumbersome than doing it on a PC).

So yes, consoles can play games, and many genres (sports, racing, action/adventure) play much better on consoles than PCs. But PCs have their place. If someone (and I would imagine this applies to many people on these forums) wants to shell out thousands of dollars to have the latest and greatest PC, who are you to say it's a waste?

 

[MikeyLSU]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't understand why people keep "investing" hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars into their PC just to play games when they can drop their ideological bias and just get a(nother) console. It boggles the mind at all the money being wasted.

I have a pretty decent computer that cost me about $500 to build. Dual Core E4300, 2 GB of RAM x1950 pro.

point is, everytime I upgrade, i don't need a new case/monitor/keyboard/mouse/Hard drive/dvd drive/cables/sometimes power supply...it is pretty cheap to upgrade when you already have a computer.

Second, my computer does a ton more than my consoles do. I use it for this.

Third, there are different games...RTS, turn based strategy, FPS work thousands of times better on a computer than on a console(those are my favorite type of games).

Multiplayer works better on a PC for now IMO. Easier to get with friends, using TS with just the group you want to talk to, and you don't have to pay for it...

There is a common misconception among console fans that PC gaming costs tons of money, it doesn't. Like I said, my computer costs between the price of a PS3 and XBOX 360 yet does so much more than either of those systems do. I had a 360, but got tired of it and sold it, and will be getting a PS3 shortly. I have owned just about every single console since NES, so I am a big fan of consoles, but PC gaming just is a very different element of gaming.