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zinfamous

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Officiating in this game: terrible

(but at least both teams are being screwed equally)
 

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Officiating in this game: terrible

(but at least both teams are being screwed equally)

If I was KC I think I'd rather have the ball back than get the offensive pass interference calls. Seriously...two offensive pass interference calls in a couple minutes time?
 

davmat787

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that's why I say he's weird. You can't really explain it--you just know he's bad.

Exactly. Just like we know Jessica broke up with Romo because he always fumbled his load with 2 minutes left before "victory".

And to answer the question, who would you take over Romo outside the top five. Off the top of my head, I would look at Matt Ryan, Cam Newton (was I wrong about him or what), Roethlesberger, Stafford, and maybe even Eli and Schaub.
 

davmat787

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Officiating in this game: terrible

(but at least both teams are being screwed equally)

I originally popped into this thread to mention the officiating, but not just in this game. Between the UW-AZ game, some other PAC12 games, SEA-CIN, and tonight's game this has been the single worst weekend of officiating on the whole I have ever seen. The Refs are becoming was to overbearing with their calls, which only magnify their mistakes further.
 

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Exactly. Just like we know Jessica broke up with Romo because he always fumbled his load with 2 minutes left before "victory".

And to answer the question, who would you take over Romo outside the top five. Off the top of my head, I would look at Matt Ryan, Cam Newton (was I wrong about him or what), Roethlesberger, Stafford, and maybe even Eli and Schaub.

Eli and Schaub? Are you mentally ill? No thanks ... Like I said earlier, Ryan is inconsistent and we don't know what Newton will do under pressure. As for Stafford, let's get a healthy season under him, but he is a good QB.
 

davmat787

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Eli and Schaub? Are you mentally ill? No thanks ... Like I said earlier, Ryan is inconsistent and we don't know what Newton will do under pressure. As for Stafford, let's get a healthy season under him, but he is a good QB.

Eli has a ring, so you know how he handles the pressure. I would rather have a QB that is stable, but with less flashy stats than an unstable QB that you can't build a solid offense around. Remember the Raven's won their SB with Dilfer. You don't need a Romo to win one. And apparently, Romo's decision making breaks down under pressure so yes, I would take a bit of a lesser QB that avoids that problem.

You really think someone has mental problems if they would take Eli over Romo? And wait, Eli does have better stats. More yards, higher completion %, more TD's, less INT's, and a higher QB rating. Yes, surely I am the one that is mentally ill, and not the guy that can't handle the fact that someone might have a different opinion that yourself regarding Romo. :rolleyes:

It is imperative that a QB inspire as much confidence and be a leader of his offense. Poor decision making and late game errors does not produce that.

Eli: 2127 64.7 13 5 102.1
Schaub: 2118 60.2 13 5 95.9
Romo: 1959 62.7 11 7 89.7
 
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zinfamous

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Eli has a ring, so you know how he handles the pressure. I would rather have a QB that is stable, but with less flashy stats than an unstable QB that you can't build a solid offense around. Remember the Raven's won their SB with Dilfer. You don't need a Romo to win one. And apparently, Romo's decision making breaks down under pressure so yes, I would take a bit of a lesser QB that avoids that problem.

You really think someone has mental problems if they would take Eli over Romo? And wait, Eli does have better stats. More yards, higher completion %, more TD's, less INT's, and a higher QB rating. Yes, surely I am the one that is mentally ill, and not the guy that can't handle the fact that someone might have a different opinion that yourself regarding Romo. :rolleyes:

It is imperative that a QB inspire as much confidence and be a leader of his offense. Poor decision making and late game errors does not produce that.

Eli: 2127 64.7 13 5 102.1
Schaub: 2118 60.2 13 5 95.9
Romo: 1959 62.7 11 7 89.7


yeah, no way in hell the Giants win that SB with Romo.

el oh el.

Honestly, I think Romo is a better QB than Eli...but I think I'd prefer Eli as my QB. He doesn't really collapse. Eli either sucks from the start and is not going to do anything for you, or he's gonna be good. On some very rare occasions--he is very good.

Romo is going to look good, confident, and comfortable for about 2 and 1/2 quarters...then collapse, for no explicable reason. He will lose games that the Cowboys have won. And whoever is coaching that team will keep him in because they simply can't believe what is going on. Bah, he'll turn it around! Of course he will, this is just silly!

With Eli, you can just take him out, as you know he isn't going to get any better

That's what makes his numbers so strange--His W-L is odd to most people, but consider the games that he should have won. wow....
 

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Eli has a ring, so you know how he handles the pressure. I would rather have a QB that is stable, but with less flashy stats than an unstable QB that you can't build a solid offense around. Remember the Raven's won their SB with Dilfer. You don't need a Romo to win one. And apparently, Romo's decision making breaks down under pressure so yes, I would take a bit of a lesser QB that avoids that problem.

You really think someone has mental problems if they would take Eli over Romo? And wait, Eli does have better stats. More yards, higher completion %, more TD's, less INT's, and a higher QB rating. Yes, surely I am the one that is mentally ill, and not the guy that can't handle the fact that someone might have a different opinion that yourself regarding Romo. :rolleyes:

It is imperative that a QB inspire as much confidence and be a leader of his offense. Poor decision making and late game errors does not produce that.

Eli: 2127 64.7 13 5 102.1
Schaub: 2118 60.2 13 5 95.9
Romo: 1959 62.7 11 7 89.7

Oh, you're talking about this year? Because career wise, I'd rather have Romo.

Eli: 24771 | 58.4 | 169 | 118 | 81.7
Schaub: 17575 | 64.3 | 96 | 53 | 92
Romo: 18609 | 63.9 | 129 | 69 | 94.9

Yes, I think you're mental for taking the other two over Romo.
 

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Eli has a ring, so you know how he handles the pressure. I would rather have a QB that is stable, but with less flashy stats than an unstable QB that you can't build a solid offense around. Remember the Raven's won their SB with Dilfer. You don't need a Romo to win one. And apparently, Romo's decision making breaks down under pressure so yes, I would take a bit of a lesser QB that avoids that problem.

You really think someone has mental problems if they would take Eli over Romo? And wait, Eli does have better stats. More yards, higher completion %, more TD's, less INT's, and a higher QB rating. Yes, surely I am the one that is mentally ill, and not the guy that can't handle the fact that someone might have a different opinion that yourself regarding Romo. :rolleyes:

It is imperative that a QB inspire as much confidence and be a leader of his offense. Poor decision making and late game errors does not produce that.

Eli: 2127 64.7 13 5 102.1
Schaub: 2118 60.2 13 5 95.9
Romo: 1959 62.7 11 7 89.7
you make valid points and as much as I hate to admit it, Eli Manning deserves to be in the 2nd tier behind the elites. But you can't look at just 8 games and draw career conclusions.

Also, those Ravens were uniquely qualified to win with Trent Dilfer. They had an all-time great defense right before the entire league went completely pass-happy. I don't know if that formula can be repeated anytime soon. Those Ravens could've won with just about any competent QB that knew his job was to not throw INTs.

Numbers can lie, but Romo sounds like no worse than the 11th best QB in the league. If he's at football's equivalent of the Mendoza Line, then some 20 teams need to ditch their starter. I find it funny that some fans want to throw Romo under the bus while in Denver, mile high fans clamored for the clear 3rd stringer in training camp to take over the starting job. Well maybe not so much clamoring today.
 
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Oh, you're talking about this year? Because career wise, I'd rather have Romo.

Eli: 24771 | 58.4 | 169 | 118 | 81.7
Schaub: 17575 | 64.3 | 96 | 53 | 92
Romo: 18609 | 63.9 | 129 | 69 | 94.9

Yes, I think you're mental for taking the other two over Romo.

I'd probably take Eli... he's had less weapons (altho Romo has suffered lately with a shit run game) and he plays in the Meadowlands that has bad weather unlike Dallas.
 

ther00kie16

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There you go Battle. Just 8 more yards and I win my fantasy matchup. Was getting worried when Jones was in for all the plays in the 2nd quarter.
Would've won already if Cowboys' Austin, Murray and Bailey combined for a measly 10.9pts.
 

zinfamous

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god damn, I almost had a heart attack on that one

though, Chiefs might as well challenge it. No idea how the refs will rule in this game


wow. conversion by about 0.5 inches.
 

ElFenix

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i don't think he got in on that

edit: well maybe when he switched to the right arm he did
 

ther00kie16

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the hell? Brinkley was in on all of those plays? haha.

Yea, looked like Matthews had his ankle tweaked slightly on the sideline. Surprised he got up so gimpy when Rivers is still playing just fine after a much worse looking tackle.
 

Via

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I really don't understand football officials anymore.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but Tommie Harris clearly grabbed the KC runner's facemask in full view of everyone. This happens so fricking often.
 

benzylic

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OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!

To bad I have no faith in Cassel's ability to lead the chief's downfield