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I was going to post Saturday night (but the forums were down for “maintenance”) about how we were improved and had a better team than you would expect. I also wanted to remind you that the last time the Bills and Chiefs played, the Chiefs only won because of a well-timed icing timeout in OT. By responding the way you did, you proved what I was complaining about – that the bills don’t get ANY respect regardless of what the front office does.

I hope you enjoyed your thwumping.

And BTW, the Jags and Bills have had VERY similar records over the last few years. The Bills are 31-49 and Jacksonville has gone 39-41 over the last five years. Playing against “big” teams isn’t a good excuse either – it’s not like we don’t have NE and NYJ on our schedule twice, along with Dallas, NYG, Washington, Philadelphia, and San Diego. You don’t think going to Dallas, where last time the two teams played it was decided in the last minute of the game on MNF (2007) and where the Bills’s current head coach was fired and from ten years ago could be good tv?

Typical Bills fan. Of course you didn't respond before because Bills fans learned from experience not to talk smack before because you're generally getting your asses handed to you.

Uh, the Bills got respect back when they had a respectable team so don't give me that. Of course they managed to be a joke doing that as well.

You're "almost" shit is exactly why people laugh at Bills fans too. Yeah, you almost had 4 Super Bowl titles. You almost won more games. The fact is you didn't. Until you consistently prove you do people aren't going to give you respect.

Very similar record? You call 8 wins less similar? When was the last time the Bills went 12-4 or went to the playoffs? The Jags had built a solid team, they just let it fall to pieces pretty quickly (well that and had stuff like a lineman getting shot up, receiver becoming a druggy, etc). Also keep in mind they did that with a worse fan base and in an even worse market than Buffalo, so I don't know why you're trying to defend the fact that your Bills have been a worse team than them. You sound almost as bad as Raiders fans.

They definitely have improved some but I wouldn't take beating up on the most embarrassing Chiefs play from probably the last 5 years (which is saying something considering the how bad they were during the time Chan Gailey spent there) anything to brag about either. They played like complete shit and have shown in preseason they were not prepared to really start playing.

The thing is, against big teams the Bills have shown a likeliness to get their asses kicked which is why they don't get the big national times. The Jags actually played good teams competitively. That's the difference. I know you're a Bills fan but you've got to be a complete moron to not be able to see why your team gets disrespected so much.

I might be too harsh on you, but I've seen a bunch of Bills fans come out of the woodwork and talk trash over this one game, which is baffling. One forum I checked out had a bunch of them making usernames like Derrick_Thomas_is_gay and other crap.
 
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The hate comes from people's expectations and lack of touch with reality. Romo isn't an "elite" guy, but he is an above average quarterback. He isn't Peyton Manning. He has the ability to go out and win you some games but he isn't going to make your 4 win team a 12 win team like Manning. The issue with this is that he is routinely hyped up by ESPN and some Cowboy's supporters as somebody who is going to make "that leap" to super-elite signal caller. Also, I don't think the Cowboys's offense is built or run in a way that minimizes his shortcomings -- which is definitely on Jerruh and the coaching staff.

I'm not much of a Romo fan (to me, he's a bit better than Eli; he won't tend to outright lose the game for you by throwing interceptions and fumbling; and about even with Roethlisberger where they can make some crazy plays, although I'd say Roethlisberger is more jekyll and hyde in that he can put the Steelers in a position to lose games as much as he can to win them but when he plays good I think he's better than Romo), but yeah, the hate comes from the hype.

I heard people saying that he'd be an elite QB because he backed up Bledsoe and the last guy to do that was Brady so by idiot logic clearly Romo was going to be the next Tom Brady. That's not his fault, and aside from the stupid "omg he's dating Jessica Simpson or that other country singer" there isn't any reason beyond (being a hyped Cowboy) for me to really dislike him (compared to the obvious reasons for Eli and Ben and many others).

He has shown improvements and I could see why people would start to get higher on him after his 2009 season.

I agree. I don't know how they expect him to be successful considering they basically trashed their offensive line, which played bad enough to get Romo knocked out for half of last season. They do have some good receivers for him to work with though.
 
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Romo needs to reign it in a little. If he was smarter with the ball they would of won. He lost the ball at the one yard line. If he just throws it out of bounds instead of trying his best Adrian Peterson impression that's 3 more points. The Jets would of had to get a touchdown to win instead of a 50 yd fieldgoal. I'm not even sure wtf happened on the interception or why Dez is even out there with a bad leg?
In the end it was typical Cowboys football. Good enough to stick around till the end when they decide to f@ck it up.
 

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WTF was up with the Cowboys game? They handed that game to the Jets. It looks pretty bad when your own QB was the last person ready for a play. Not only that, but dam, he sucked at time management. really? You wait till 1 second to hike the ball? You need to cal you plays faster than that, especially of you are doing multiple times on 1 drive. Also, why was Bryant on the field?
 

IndyColtsFan

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Cowboys fans are hilarious. Romo may make boneheaded plays, but seriously, who are you going to replace him with at this point? I'll trade you Collins or Painter for him.
 

Gibson486

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Cowboys fans are hilarious. Romo may make boneheaded plays, but seriously, who are you going to replace him with at this point? I'll trade you Collins or Painter for him.

hey, I usually stick up for Romo, but last night was wow. Towards the end of the game, he looked no better than a rookie. i am not saying to replace him, but there is no excuse for the way things transpired.
 
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Cowboys fans are hilarious. Romo may make boneheaded plays, but seriously, who are you going to replace him with at this point? I'll trade you Collins or Painter for him.

The most frustrating thing is the fact that he doesnt live up to his potential. He can duck a blitzing linebacker run to the right then fire a strike 40 yards down the field while on the run. Then the next play he'll through into double or triple coverage to someone that's not even close to being open. :confused:
Either way We're glad to have him. I know the QB talent in the NFL is scary at best once you get past the top 10.
 

IndyColtsFan

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The most frustrating thing is the fact that he doesnt live up to his potential. He can duck a blitzing linebacker run to the right then fire a strike 40 yards down the field while on the run. Then the next play he'll through into double or triple coverage to someone that's not even close to being open. :confused:

Hey, they used to call Favre a "gunslinger" when he did the same thing. Too bad Madden retired or he could be riding Romo's jock now. :D
 

waggy

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Sexy Rexy didn't look too bad either

lol I put him on my FF team as starter for a joke (no we don't take it seriously and no money is changing hands. though a case of beer goes to the winner by all losers) and he did amazing.
 

Capt Caveman

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Cowboys fans are hilarious. Romo may make boneheaded plays, but seriously, who are you going to replace him with at this point? I'll trade you Collins or Painter for him.

The problem is that it's been the case for years but they've never even attempted to try and find a successor or replacement. In pressure situations, he makes the boneheaded play.
 

AMDZen

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I don't know which was better yesterday, the CowGirls beating themselves or the thrashing the Steel took by the Ravens. Now if only Miami could make Tom Brady look like Roslistheburgerandfries looked against the Ravens yesterday, and the Broncos put a beating on the Raiders - it may officially be the best weekend of football evar!!!

I guess if I had to nitpick, its too bad the CowGirls didn't beat themselves in their own overpriced luxury suite they call a stadium.
 

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I'm a die hard Steelers fan and that was painful to watch. I hope this is just a wake up call and not a sign of things to come.

The Ravens did new things with their tight ends with passes in the middle. No one was even covering the ends and running backs out the in the middle of the field. Other problems were the offense got away from running the ball. They were moving the pile getting good runs then went 3 and out on all passes when the score was 14 to 7.

I think the Ravens are hungry while the Steelers just don't seem to be.
 

Deeko

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Fucking Cowboys.

I fully expected Dallas to lose last night..they had to go and toy with me, winning for most of 4 quarters, only to have a spectacular meltdown in the 4th. Romo is taking a lot of heat, but he isn't the only one to choke. The entire team fell apart.
 

AMDZen

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Please. Romo nearly single handedly lost that game other than the blocked punt which could have been overcome if not for Romo's fumble and interception.

Tony is and will probably always be a loser. Some guys have it and others don't. He has all the talent in the world but something holds him back when it matters most and when games are on the line. Doesn't matter how good he plays, he has proved it time and time again.
 

Deeko

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Please. Romo nearly single handedly lost that game other than the blocked punt which could have been overcome if not for Romo's fumble and interception.

Tony is and will probably always be a loser. Some guys have it and others don't. He has all the talent in the world but something holds him back when it matters most and when games are on the line. Doesn't matter how good he plays, he has proved it time and time again.

Its always a fun game to place all the blame for a loss on the QB, as well as all the credit, but that's just not the case.

1) The fumble - yes, he dropped the ball (literally), but it was a horrid play call. I've been complaining about Jason Garrett's penchant for the shotgun 4/5 wide goal line set for years now. And then there was no one open. And then the blocking broke down pretty quick. Everyone (including Romo) failed on that play/

2) The blocked punt - were it not for this play, the Cowboys probably still hold on to win. It was a spectacular failure. How do you let a guy just rush straight up the gut completely unblocked? Its not like he was hiding.

3) The defense - injuries were obviously a factor, but the defense looked completely lost in the 4th quarter, especially on the TD drive. Its not just a matter of them not being as good as the starters...they looked confused, no one knew where to line up.

4) The interception - obviously a terribly underthrown ball that never should have been thrown, but did you watch Dez Bryant's route? I've seen Randy Moss work harder on a running play. He was barely even jogging down the field, I wouldn't be surprised if that was supposed to be a comeback route that he was too lazy to complete. Plus, his half-assed attempt to tackle Revis is why they ended up in field goal range.

Of course plenty of the loss falls on Romo - after a nearly perfect 3 quarters against one of the league's top defenses, he crumbled. My point is - so did the rest of the team, its not all his fault.
 

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Please. Romo nearly single handedly lost that game other than the blocked punt which could have been overcome if not for Romo's fumble and interception.

Tony is and will probably always be a loser. Some guys have it and others don't. He has all the talent in the world but something holds him back when it matters most and when games are on the line. Doesn't matter how good he plays, he has proved it time and time again.

Clock management was the #1 issue during the game. The Jets were getting off the snap because so many plays would go all the way down to 1 second on the play clock. Conditioning was the #2 issue on the field for the Cowboys. Romo didn't help the cause any with that last INT, but the blame doesn't totally sit with him.
 

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Could not feel better about the Ravens right now. Yeah, yeah, just one game and all that. But we seriously played lights out in every facet of the game. Guess the O line isn't a problem after all. If Flacco gets the time he needs, he has the skills to tear defenses apart.

Side note: Polomalu looked S..L..O..W..
 

Gibson486

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Its always a fun game to place all the blame for a loss on the QB, as well as all the credit, but that's just not the case.

1) The fumble - yes, he dropped the ball (literally), but it was a horrid play call. I've been complaining about Jason Garrett's penchant for the shotgun 4/5 wide goal line set for years now. And then there was no one open. And then the blocking broke down pretty quick. Everyone (including Romo) failed on that play/

2) The blocked punt - were it not for this play, the Cowboys probably still hold on to win. It was a spectacular failure. How do you let a guy just rush straight up the gut completely unblocked? Its not like he was hiding.

3) The defense - injuries were obviously a factor, but the defense looked completely lost in the 4th quarter, especially on the TD drive. Its not just a matter of them not being as good as the starters...they looked confused, no one knew where to line up.

4) The interception - obviously a terribly underthrown ball that never should have been thrown, but did you watch Dez Bryant's route? I've seen Randy Moss work harder on a running play. He was barely even jogging down the field, I wouldn't be surprised if that was supposed to be a comeback route that he was too lazy to complete. Plus, his half-assed attempt to tackle Revis is why they ended up in field goal range.

Of course plenty of the loss falls on Romo - after a nearly perfect 3 quarters against one of the league's top defenses, he crumbled. My point is - so did the rest of the team, its not all his fault.

Hehehehe...I was wondering about that too....Shotgun so close to the goal line, WTF? That, and they def did not have the receiving core to pull it off.
 

AMDZen

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Get used to it. I never thought Garrett was a very good O-coordinator, much less head coach. Be prepared for many years of mediocrity since Jerry Jones will most likely not fire Garrett for at least a few years.
 

Deeko

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Get used to it. I never thought Garrett was a very good O-coordinator, much less head coach. Be prepared for many years of mediocrity since Jerry Jones will most likely not fire Garrett for at least a few years.

He was a terrible coordinator. I'm hoping he's a better head coach, but so far, his poor o. coordinator skills are still overwhelming any chance he has there. He needs to hire someone to call plays for him....