OFFICIAL NFL 2012 week 4 thread

[hclarkjr]

THU, SEP 27 TIME
Cleveland at Baltimore 8:20 PM
SUN, SEP 30 TIME
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
New England at Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS
Minnesota at Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS
Seattle at St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
San Francisco at NY Jets 1:00 PM FOX
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Jacksonville 4:05 PM CBS
Miami at Arizona 4:05 PM CBS
Oakland at Denver 4:05 PM CBS
New Orleans at Green Bay 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Tampa Bay 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:20 PM NBC
MON, OCT 1 TIME
Chicago at Dallas 8:30 PM ESPN
·Bye: Indianapolis, Pittsburgh

HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE THE REAL REFS FOR THIS WEEKEND!!!

 

[SunnyD]

Here's to hoping for a repeat of The Unraveling of Tom Brady in Buffalo. That was an epic moment in history last season. Nothing made me happier than to see Tom Brady frustrated and utterly pissed off on the sidelines.

 

[JujuFish]

Here's to hoping for a repeat of The Unraveling of Tom Brady in Buffalo. That was an epic moment in history last season. Nothing made me happier than to see Tom Brady frustrated and utterly pissed off on the sidelines.

Time to see if Mario Williams and Mark Anderson can do what they were brought in to do.

 

[Imported]

I got owned last week..

THU, SEP 27 TIME
Cleveland at Baltimore 8:20 PM
SUN, SEP 30 TIME
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
New England at Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS
Minnesota at Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS
Seattle at St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
San Francisco at NY Jets 1:00 PM FOX
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Jacksonville 4:05 PM CBS
Miami at Arizona 4:05 PM CBS
Oakland at Denver 4:05 PM CBS
New Orleans at Green Bay 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Tampa Bay 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:20 PM NBC
MON, OCT 1 TIME
Chicago at Dallas 8:30 PM ESPN
·Bye: Indianapolis, Pittsburgh

 

[diesbudt]

THU, SEP 27 TIME

Cleveland at Baltimore 8:20 PM
SUN, SEP 30 TIME
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
New England atBuffalo 1:00 PM CBS
Minnesota at Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS
Seattle at St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
San Francisco at NY Jets 1:00 PM FOX
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Jacksonville 4:05 PM CBS
Miami at Arizona 4:05 PM CBS
Oakland at Denver 4:05 PM CBS
New Orleans at Green Bay 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Tampa Bay 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:20 PM NBC
MON, OCT 1 TIME
Chicago at Dallas 8:30 PM ESPN

·Bye: Indianapolis, Pittsburgh

 

[diesbudt]

HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE THE REAL REFS FOR THIS WEEKEND!!!

They won't. No agreement yet (although ALOT closer now from what I hear) and once an agreement is made, there is physicals and such to do, and then get ready. Which will take a week minimum.

Add on top that if replacement refs do the thursday night game of whatever week, they will be doing every game that week, as it means the replacement refs are scheduled for those games and will not take them off so quickly.

 

[rudeguy]

thanks for making these!

Sunday night should be awesome. I call Detroit to fail again this week even against the Vikings

 

[rudeguy]

They won't. No agreement yet (although ALOT closer now from what I hear) and once an agreement is made, there is physicals and such to do, and then get ready. Which will take a week minimum.

Add on top that if replacement refs do the thursday night game of whatever week, they will be doing every game that week, as it means the replacement refs are scheduled for those games and will not take them off so quickly.

how much money are the real refs asking for? I don't care enough to read through 16 million google results to find out

 

[AstroManLuca]

My picks

THU, SEP 27 TIME
Cleveland at Baltimore 8:20 PM
SUN, SEP 30 TIME
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
New England at Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS
Minnesota at Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS
Seattle at St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
San Francisco at NY Jets 1:00 PM FOX
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Jacksonville 4:05 PM CBS
Miami at Arizona 4:05 PM CBS
Oakland at Denver 4:05 PM CBS
New Orleans at Green Bay 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Tampa Bay 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:20 PM NBC
MON, OCT 1 TIME
Chicago at Dallas 8:30 PM ESPN

 

[ichy]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the Browns will continue to be awful.

 

[diesbudt]

how much money are the real refs asking for? I don't care enough to read through 16 million google results to find out

Money isn't the standing point. Both sides are happy with where they are on that.

It is the retirement plans. NFL wanted to remove pensions and switch to 401k plans. Refs did not like this. Now the NFL has moved their stance to allow pensions to be grandfathered in, for the current refs on staff, and all new hires have a 401k plan they can adhear to. (They changed their stance Tuesday morning this week.)

However the refs want the pensions grandfathered in faster than the NFL has offered. The NFL owners have stated after this they are not budging anymore. So this is where our current stalemate is. Everything else is agreed upon now.

 

[thestrangebrew1]

My picks

THU, SEP 27 TIME
Cleveland at Baltimore 8:20 PM
SUN, SEP 30 TIME
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
New England at Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS
Minnesota at Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS
Seattle at St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
San Francisco at NY Jets 1:00 PM FOX
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Jacksonville 4:05 PM CBS
Miami at Arizona 4:05 PM CBS
Oakland at Denver 4:05 PM CBS
New Orleans at Green Bay 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Tampa Bay 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:20 PM NBC
MON, OCT 1 TIME
Chicago at Dallas 8:30 PM ESPN

I'd have to go with these picks as well. I'm suspicious about Minnesota @ Detroit though.

 

[AMDZen]

Here's to hoping for a repeat of The Unraveling of Tom Brady in Buffalo. That was an epic moment in history last season. Nothing made me happier than to see Tom Brady frustrated and utterly pissed off on the sidelines.

That would rock

 

[rudeguy]

Money isn't the standing point. Both sides are happy with where they are on that.

It is the retirement plans. NFL wanted to remove pensions and switch to 401k plans. Refs did not like this. Now the NFL has moved their stance to allow pensions to be grandfathered in, for the current refs on staff, and all new hires have a 401k plan they can adhear to. (They changed their stance Tuesday morning this week.)

However the refs want the pensions grandfathered in faster than the NFL has offered. The NFL owners have stated after this they are not budging anymore. So this is where our current stalemate is. Everything else is agreed upon now.

thanks

and fuck the owners and fuck Goodell.

 

[Soccerman06]

Refs win... thats my pick

 

[hclarkjr]

yay the real refs are back!! now we can bitch and moan about them now!!

 

[ArizonaSteve]

I want to get a job as a ref now. Have you seen how much they're making?

From azcardinals.com:

– Apart from their benefit package, the game officials’ compensation will increase from an average of $149,000 a year in 2011 to $173,000 in 2013, rising to $205,000 by 2019.

 

[RPD]

THU, SEP 27 TIME
Cleveland at Baltimore 8:20 PM
SUN, SEP 30 TIME
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
New England at Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS
Minnesota at Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
San Diego at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS
Seattle at St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
San Francisco at NY Jets 1:00 PM FOX
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Jacksonville 4:05 PM CBS
Miami at Arizona 4:05 PM CBS
Oakland at Denver 4:05 PM CBS
New Orleans at Green Bay 4:25 PM FOX
Washington at Tampa Bay 4:25 PM FOX
NY Giants at Philadelphia 8:20 PM NBC
MON, OCT 1 TIME
Chicago at Dallas 8:30 PM ESPN

 

[dougp]

Shit sorry, didn't see this one. It wasn't on the front page so I assumed it wasn't up yet ...

 

[KLin]

Cribbs got KTFO!!!! :shock:

 

[slayer202]

ah fuck...

 

[SunnyD]

Cribbs got KTFO!!!! :shock:

That was a nasty hit... but I really hope nobody has the balls to dare to bitch about it.

That was a classy move by the ENTIRE Ravens team AND ESPECIALLY Ellerby right after coming out and staying out after the play.

 

[KLin]

What the fuck Flacco?

 

[SSSnail]

Damn it, this is boring, just football and no blown calls or missed calls. BRING BACK THE REPLACEMENT REFS!!! :awe:

 

[SunnyD]

Damn it, this is boring, just football and no blown calls or missed calls. BRING BACK THE REPLACEMENT REFS!!! :awe:

I know, right? This game has been rather unexciting.