**Official** Matrix Revolutions Thread **w/ SPOILERS**

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Originally posted by: kitkit201
Taken from Matrixfans.net, a very good possible theory of things from the Matrix... SPOLIERS BELOW but you should already know that if you got this far in the thread.. Thanks to AgentJones from MFN: Edit1: His original post is here... The text for anyone wanting to read the discussion and other theories about it....
Try to keep the flames on Low, I burn easily... Neo is a machine, kinda. He is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind (probably based on a "The One" template program). That's why, at the end of Revolutions, when his body is being taken away, he is shown as an orange glow. The orange glow is how the machines see each other, and therefore how they see Neo. It is also how Neo sees Smith inside Bane... he is seeing the machine program of Smith inside Bane's mind, and therefore it is an orange glow in the shape of the Smith. But the orange glow isn't the only reason to believe Neo is a machine. Throughout the trilogy other hints are given, such as: "His neural kinetics are way above normal.", "He's a machine.", "Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication...", etc. So if Neo is a machine, why was he created (as all machines must have a purpose)? He was created by the Oracle and the Architect to be The One. As the Architect explains to him: "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix... Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of The One... The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program." Translated, the Architect is explaining that Neo was designed to be a religious figure to the freed humans, thus causing them to put their faith (hope) in Neo and to rally around him ("...sum of a remainder..."). This helps to ensure that the freed humans are focused on Neo instead of war, and to keep them all together in one place, Zion (which was built by the machines for this purpose also). Neo is a form of control in the real world. And just to make sure that Neo carries out his part of their plan, the machines programmed him with "... a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the [humans]." This, along with his enhanced abilities and the "guidance" of the Oracle, keeps him on the intended course. The Architect also states that "The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program." This simply means that The One program in Neo's mind is the most important (prime) program in the Matrix, and that now that his mission (purpose) is complete, he must return to the source for deletion (all machines must have a purpose). The phrase "... temporary dissemination..." means that the The One program will be used again in the next version of the Matrix. This is also why Neo's choice of the left door will destroy the Matrix, as there can be only one The One in the Matrix at any time. By staying in the Matrix Neo is preventing it from being reloaded, as a reload will do nothing without another The One for the next version. (In programming terms he is the highest priority task, and he will not release the Matrix program's main semaphore.) OK, so The One is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind, and was created by the Oracle and the Architect to carry out a specific purpose (form of control in and out of the Matrix) in each iteration of the Matrix. Now let's see how The One fits in with the entire story of the trilogy. As is explained, the Matrix was created by the Architect, at the end of the war with the humans, as a way to control the humans and use them as a power source (I know, hard to believe...). The first Matrix was "... quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime.", while the second Matrix was redesigned "... to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature." Basically Heaven and then Hell. In both cases, however, no conscious choice was given to the humans as to whether or not they wanted to believe in the reality of the Matrix. This caused the majority of humans to reject the Matrix and die ("... whole crops were lost."). To solve this problem the Oracle was created, and realized correctly that the humans needed to be given a choice: "Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche... she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level." So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix. Unfortunately for the machines, however, a majority of the 0.1% who were aware of the choice usually chose the real world over the Matrix. "While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster." The machines therefore also needed a way to control the 0.1% of the humans who chose the real world over the Matrix, thus Zion and The One were created. As was explained earlier, Zion was built by the machines to ensure that the freed humans would all gather in one place, and The One was created to be their religious figure, helping to distract them from renewed war with the machines. Both forms of control. But even with Zion and The One, the unpredictability of choice ("systemic anomoly") still forced the machines to occasionally "reload" the Matrix. This always occurs when The One reaches the Source, which he can only do after attaining the level of power necessary for him to defeat the Merovingian, obtain the Keymaker, etc. The One program is then temporarily reinserted into the Source (machine mainframe), in preparation for the next iteration of the Matrix. In the process the machines gain the knowledge and experiences of The One, allowing them to better predict the future behavior of the humans, and thus reduce the systemic anomolies. So that is the situation at the start of the sixth iteration of the choice-Matrix. Luckily for the humans, however, the Oracle does not want them to be enslaved in the Matrix any longer, or for the freed humans to be killed. She therefore decides to take a risk and use Neo to bring about a "revolution". In M1 (The Matrix) she meets with The One, Neo, as she has done in the five previous iterations of the Matrix. Normally she simply helps guide The One to his meeting with the Architect. Except this time the Oracle gives Neo a special cookie, which he eats. The cookie isn't actually a cookie, though, it's an upgrade to Neo's program. Since the Oracle created the The One program, she can predict exactly what Neo will do in the future, specifically how he will destroy Smith (from the inside, with some copying from Neo to Smith occuring). She therefore includes in the program upgrade code that will give Smith the ability to replicate himself, and for Neo and Smith to see the future as she does. In M2 (The Matrix Reloaded) Neo plays out his role as The One, meeting with the Architect. However, due to his love for Trinity he chooses the left door, preventing the Matrix from reloading. This was seen in advance by the Oracle, as she has the ability to predict Neo's behavior (as explained above) as well as human behavior in general (due to the nature of her program). She therefore told Trinity that she would fall in love with Neo (in M1), all the while knowing it would eventually cause Neo to choose the left door. In M3 (The Matrix Revolutions) the Oracle's plan comes to fruition. While the machines begin their assualt on Zion (for the sixth time), Smith continues to replicate himself throughout the Matrix. Neo, on the otherhand, is stuck in the train station. Apparently, fulfilling his mission to meet with the Architect unlocks some section of his program that allows Neo to use his enhanced implants to once again become part of the machine collective (perhaps because of the Oracle's upgrade?). He is therefore able to sense and control other machines wirelessly. The first example of this is when he stops the sentinels at the end of M2. Since he is not quite ready to use his new abilities, however, his program gets stuck at the security checkpoint of the Matrix, the train station. In the train station Neo meets with Rama Kandra, his wife, and their daughter Sati. Rama and his wife are both machines from the real world who can jack into the Matrix, like all other machines, and live human lives. Sati is a program created by these two machines out of love, which Rama explains to Neo is not out of the grasp of the machines. They are on their way back into the Matrix to leave Sati with the Oracle for safe keeping, as any program without a purpose is deleted. After being rescued from the train station by Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph, Neo is helped out of the Matrix using the standard jack. While aboard the Hammer he has another vision of the future, this time of the three power lines leading from the Matrix power station to 01, the machine city (he is able to see the power lines due to his newfound connection to the machine collective). He therefore takes the Logos, along with Trinity, and leaves for 01. Along the way he confronts the stowaway Bane (who has the Smith program inside of him), and is blinded by him. Although blind, Neo is still able to see other machines (orange glow), including the Smith program inside Bane, which he uses to defeat Bane. He also uses his power to control other machines to detonate the bombs fired at the Logos by the 01 defenses. Meanwhile Smith is replicating out of control in the Matrix, and eventually confronts the Oracle after taking over Seraph and Sati. They have a brief conversation in which he calls her "Mom", referring to the fact that she helped to create him (along with the Architect) as well as Neo (part of his program now). The Oracle then tells Smith to "Do what you came here to do.", so he takes over her as well. The newly formed Smith then stands up and laughs hysterically, foreshadowing the events at the end of the movie. Eventually the Logos crashes in 01, but not before Neo gets a top-down view of the orange glowing city with his newfound machine-vision (notice the fractal patterns). Unfortunately Trinity is killed in the crash, and explains to Neo that both of them have been living on borrowed time. Neo since he was ressurected by Trinity, and Trinity since she was ressurected by Neo. Both are meant to die and Trinity is simply happy for the oportunity this time to tell Neo how she feels about him. (But shame on the brothers for killing off Trinity in such a lame way. Couldn't she have at least died trying to save the ship, not just letting it crash!) Neo then leaves the Logos and enters the machine building into which it crashed (the building is seen in the same orange glowing machine-vision). He is then confronted by the Deus Ex Machina, who knows that Neo is the only one who can stop Smith from destroying the Matrix, but still shows hatred toward Neo (due to the fact that he is mostly human). After a show of force, the Deus Ex Machina agrees to peace with the humans in exchange for Neo's promise to destroy Smith. This causes the sentinels to halt their attack on the Zion temple, the last holdout of the remaining humans (the dock and city have already been destroyed). The machines then jack Neo into the Matrix, since he has not yet masterred the ability to do so wirelessly (this theme of Neo having to learn to use his new abilities runs throughout the trilogy). Neo then confronts Smith, who says he has seen the future, and that he (the one particular Smith) is the one that defeats Neo. The other Smiths (all of the other people in the Matrix have now been taken over by him) therefore only watch as the fight begins. After a brutal battle Neo is near defeat, but continues to fight. When asked why he does so, Neo responds "Because I choose to.", echoing the theme in M2 that "Everything begins with choice." (the only way humans achieve true freedom). But even though he delivers a stunning punch to Smith which sends him through the ground, Neo is eventually defeated. Before Smith takes him over he pauses, however, realizing that he has seen this very moment in his visions, and he already knows what he is going to say. "Everything that has a beginning has an end..." he mutters confusedly. This causes Neo to realize that the Oracle still exists somewhere inside of Smith, and that she is partially able to control his thoughts. Taking his cue from the Oracle, Neo freely gives himself to Smith. Thus Neo is defeated, and Smith's original purpose, to defeat The One (which he is never really expected to achieve, which leads to his bad temperment) is accomplished. Smith therefore no longer has a purpose and must be deleted. But since programs marked for deletion must return to the source, how is Smith to be deleted? Simple, the machines send the command through Neo, into Smith, using a burst of energy. This causes all of the Smith clones, and the original Smith, to be deleted, leaving the original inhabitants of the bodies he has taken over (this is a basic function of the agent programs, that they leave their hosts as they found them, with death being the only exception). This then completes another revolution in the Matrix cycle, as The One has reached the Source and has reinserted the prime program (Neo's program, his knowledge and experiences). The Matrix is then reloaded back to it's initial state, the late 20th century. The Oracle then meets with Sati, Seraph, and the Architect in a park outside the city as the sun rises over it. The Architect tells her that she was playing a "very risky game", and she asks him if he will honor the promise of peace. He says that he will, since he is not human (meaning humans do not keep their promises, an insult). This means that those people who unconsciously become aware of the Matrix and choose to leave will be freed, and those living in Zion will not be killed. The war between man and machine is over, or at least suspended. Looking upon the sunrise the Oracle asks Sati if that was her doing, and the girl responds that she did it for Neo (made the sun rise). Apparently Neo's experience with love, which was uploaded from him to the Source, caused the machines to show pity on Sati and give her a purpose instead of deleting her. She is now in control of the sun. Sati also asks the Oracle if they will ever see Neo again, and the Oracle replies that they might, indicating that the The One program will be used again in the future, as it had been for the previous six iterations of the Matrix. M3 therefore ends where M1 began, except that now the humans who become aware of the Matrix will be freed (a decent compromise if you ask me). Whew, done! Hopefully this helped those of you who were confused like me after seeing M3 for the first time. I know that I am not 100% correct in what I've said here (perhaps only 50%), but it's a nice starting point. Maybe others can build on it to make it even more correct and useful. Thanks for reading!
Hopefully this will resolve some of the confusion and bring back parts 1 and 2 into retrospect with the 3rd one.. :D

That's a much better explaination than mine, otho we're pretty much on the same track...see my previous post. Excellent analysis btw!
 

Growltiger

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Good God this thread is going to get cumbersome to navigate through if people continue to quote that guy's analysis.
 

kitkit201

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Originally posted by: Growltiger
Good God this thread is going to get cumbersome to navigate through if people continue to quote that guy's analysis.

LOL.. my bad guys, dont kill the messanger, just read and respond but dont quote the darn thing (rolleyes)
 

Growltiger

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Originally posted by: kitkit201
Originally posted by: Growltiger
Good God this thread is going to get cumbersome to navigate through if people continue to quote that guy's analysis.

LOL.. my bad guys, dont kill the messanger, just read and respond but dont quote the darn thing (rolleyes)

I read the first page of the thread you linked to. I wish I had seen it before now b.c. there is no way I have time to sift through 14 pages of text. Going through this thread so late in the game was bad enough. I'm afraid I'd go into information/analysis overload if I tried to read it all. Good stuff from what I saw, though.
 

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Originally posted by: BoomAM
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: Regs

People critic this movie for what it could of been . But take it for what it is, the movie sucks.


Thanks for your opinion, but it's wrong.

Changed my mind, I like it.
Just like that? Wow, never seen someone change their mind so fast....


Hah. I'll be honest. The first remark came from my friends input. However when I went out and spent the 6.50 myself, I actually enjoyed the movie. Going to a theater with the largest possible screen and resolution helps. :)

I liked it a lot better than Reloaded. This one actually explained the story of reloaded, and showed where the writers where taking us in the plot of Reloaded. There was also that element of suspense that arose again in Revolutions that was not there in the previous movie.

In other words, I can't wait for the DVD to come out. I'm even thinking about going to see it again which is a rare find for me to do.
 

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Originally posted by: DanJ
Thats a great analysis.

Ditto, it explains a lot. I didnt think the orange color's neo saw at the end had any meaning, guess they did.
 

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See now my theory on smith (which i'm sure is wrong) was that all programs existing in the matrix must have a purpose or they are removed. Smiths purpose is to "get" neo. Once neo is defeated, smith has no purpose and will be removed. Neo realizes this, allows smith to take him over, and smith is removed. The one has been defeated six other times or something also right? The war will end for a while, but will eventually start again where another "the one" may sacrafice himself to save humanity as in this one.
 

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Originally posted by: DOSfan
Well, I have seen the movie - and I have to say it was pretty lame.

As challenged, I will list my problems with it. Well, this is more a compiled list of gripes/questions/confusions.

1) Why the hell did the bad guys in the Club Hell lobby leap onto the ceiling? Not how, but why? Before anyone mentions a "disorienting effect" against their opponents, after the first 20K rounds or so were fired they should have gotten a clue that Sareph, Trinity, and Morpheous were not your average humans and that it would do little good on them.
Most people fight as they are "programed" to. often times they don't make adjustments for their opponents. as the guards at Club hell probably weren't the ELITE of ELITE but just above average fighters, what they did was fine.

I have to disagree with you here. Please note, I am not saying you are wrong - just stating why I can't buy that explination. The fact that they lept up on the ceiling proves that they are not merely human - they must be programs. Up until this point, all of the programs we have witnessed (not counting the birds/cats/whatever) have been pretty hard core. I really find it hard to believe the the Meravingian would have put "weak" guards at the lobby when he knew full well they would be showing up. The Trainman was already with him, and the Trainman had already had the "trio" (as I will call it) try to catch him, and knew that Neo was at the Trainstation..... Your theory that the guards were just mediocre does not sit well with me.

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: DOSfan
2) What happened to the Meravingian and Persephone settup? Reloaded set them up to be some majorly intrigueing villains. In Revolutions they ended up being just another pair of eccentric villians ala Darwin and Minerva Mayflower in Hudson Hawk. Such a let down.
ya, the trilogy does not have any TRUE villians. get over it. this isn't a fairy tale.

Your absolutly right. Perhaps your enlightened palette would have prefered if I had chosen the word antagonist instead? Then maybe you could look past what you thought I meant and saw my point. In case it is still not clear, let me give you an example to help define my point.

The entire trilogy could have been filmed without ever showing the Oracle. Any time it was necessary to relay the information the Oracle dispensed, it could have been given in the third person. Like Nioby in front of the Council. Would it have ruined the trilogy? No. Is it better storytelling to leave it in? Yes. The same could be said about the Meravingian. His entire part could be removed without destroying the trilogy. The character would have to exist, just never on screen. Again, better storytelling to have him on screen. But the inclusion of him in Revolutions was half a$$ed. There was almost no reason to have him on screen. It was a waste of potential for story, and storytelling. So like I said, such a let down.
 

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I definetly enjoyed this movie. Much better then Reloaded and much more action then the original. One thing is that the plot explenations were a little weak.

My favorite scene was when Niobe was flying the ship back to Zion and the other guy was always saying man this ship can move or I had no idea it could do that. It was hilarious.

I also liked the final battle between Smith and Neo. As someone mentioned earlier, I think it was a huge Dragonball ripof, and the watter effects were a way to show their power in visible ways, and also to hide the fact that the graphics for these senes were not all that great and were clearly spetial effects.
What I would like to see is a realy good Drogonball movie if it can even be done. It should make this fight seem weak.

I don't like the Smith being completed idea, maybee that is the idea but as I can tell Smith is far beyond the control of the matrix and I think Neo alowed Smiht to infect him and then he (and the Oracle) became virus parts of Smith and destroyed him, somehow.

Also, what about the train station. Neo had no power there? Should have done a litte more then run slowly on the tracks.

Also, even if the electrical storms in the sky keep out the machines, why couldn't a ship go into mochine city from above the clouds and blow and EMP?

Anyway, A very good movie espetialy for action and effects but it has to many questions.
 

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I didn't think ships could fly above the dark clouds b.c. after all, they're a type of machine, too. When Neo and Trinity went above, they immediately came back down following a path of a parabola/arc. I think they had just enough power to push themselves above the cloud cover, but that's about it.
 

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I belive the clouds act a giant emps, they have lots of lightning and ect. and take out technology so bascaly modify a ship or take 2 ahips, so megines or one ship takes them above the clouds while one is down. Then the other ship starts and takes them were they need while the second works on restarting. then one goes through the clowds going down, is shut down and the second one starts and can get into the true core of the city or just blow the EMP. The war is over so it does not realy matter, or at least for now.
 

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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
Get the answer from Link himself.


Did he say Neo becomes the sun? wtf does that mean?


Originally posted by: elkinm
I belive the clouds act a giant emps, they have lots of lightning and ect. and take out technology so bascaly modify a ship or take 2 ahips, so megines or one ship takes them above the clouds while one is down. Then the other ship starts and takes them were they need while the second works on restarting. then one goes through the clowds going down, is shut down and the second one starts and can get into the true core of the city or just blow the EMP. The war is over so it does not realy matter, or at least for now.


What???
 

alkemyst

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People hate the movie because they don't understand it, or had a different vision than the creators.

1) you have to know about the animatrix to understand the how's and why's...then hte plot holes sort of go away....there is a lot that can not make it to film good in the story and takes some analytical thinking of the parts you have been given.

The History was the machines were slaves and revolted. The humans were losing so they destroy the planet atmosphere and figure they can wait it out until the machines die out.

Unfortunately the machine started thinking and creating more machines, and it was the machines that probably formed the Matrix. They wanted to be human. Inside the matrix they could assume human form and act sort of human.

Now the war continued to wage with the machines getting more advanced and learning to use humans for power....they were humane in their treatment of the humans giving them 'nice lives' inside their head. Some humans do not want to go back to the real world because of this...and that is a key part. Only some humans want out....I believe deep down all are aware they are in a simulation, but like so much of life you just choose to ignore the parts that bother you and focus on the good.

The machines are now at the point in Revolutions where they are human like in creatation and have learned 'love' I believe that is the puzzle piece searched for by the machines, looking human was not the answer.....love is what makes a human, human.

So with Sati that was the completion of the quest. The only thing left was to have peace with the humans or eradicate them (the humans posed a danger to the machines, the machines knew about Neo and believe his goal was to eliminate them)....if you can't get along with your enemy it makes no sense to wait for them to destroy you (the humans already destroyed the planet).

So in the end a truce was made, any human was free to leave if they wanted and those that didn't could keep living perfect virtual lives. The machines with their now human forms would more than likely enter society and slowly become treated as equals (think segregation probably first, and then equal and fair).

The story is deep and that is a problem for most to understand it....just like the humans that choose to stay in the matrix, so many in the real world now want to be spoonfed too. Most posts here prove that.
 

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I think you are exactly right Alkemyst. There are so many aspect to the story (on multiple levels) that many people can't or don't feel like dealing with. Most movies are very clear cut from begining to end, thus, contributing to the mindless entertainment our culture seems to embrace (e.g. Reality TV anyone?). When something new and different comes along, most will reject it b.c it's not what they're used to. I find the Matrix Trilogy is great based on the mere fact that numerous people can have their own, somewhat unique take on it. Name another movie that does that? Better yet, name a movie that can elicit so much discussion.
 

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Originally posted by: Growltiger
Better yet, name a movie that can elicit so much discussion.
Exactely.
PPL say that they hate it, yet they cant stop discussing it. Sort of ironic aint it. If they didnt like it, they`d leave a comment on why they didnt and leave it at that, but yet, they have continusly debated it.
To be honest, at first i thought it was an OK film, but it was a victem of hype. But after seeing it again, i start to see things i didnt notice before, and have enjoyed it more. I now rate it on par with Reloaded, and just as good, if not better than the Original.

 

alkemyst

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another thing people do is insist everything must be better. A new movie comes out, and let's say the special effects don't measure up to a $100 million blockbuster, well too bad....you know? Some movies don't have unlimited budgets....

Same thing with women, a woman can't just be attractive anymore, they have to have the perfect face, body, speech, background, etc....if even one thing is a little off then people start bashing. It's like on a scale of 1 to 10, you can only be a 10 or a 1. The funny part of it all is guy or girl alike, those making the comments like that are usually somewhere around a 5 on anyone's scale.



 

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Finally saw it. I'm glad I went to a matinee, because if I had paid full price for that steaming pile of doo, I would have been upset.

There never should have been 2 more movies. Reloaded and Revolutions have destroyed any future enjoyment I may get from watching the original.
 
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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Finally saw it. I'm glad I went to a matinee, because if I had paid full price for that steaming pile of doo, I would have been upset.

There never should have been 2 more movies. Reloaded and Revolutions have destroyed any future enjoyment I may get from watching the original.

Word up. At least, as crappy as Revolutions was, it was not QUITE as ponderous and dull as Reloaded (though perhaps I have just developed a tolerance for pretentious, pseudo-important, action-free action movies).
 

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Sorry to make this thread longer- but my friend and I are having a dispute and we need you to clarify it.

So my friend said that after agent Smith dies, (after all the other agent Smiths explode), the body of agent Smith's doesn't look like him anymore. He said if anything, it looks like either the general or Neo himself. Anybody else catch this?
 

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Originally posted by: Soybomb
See now my theory on smith (which i'm sure is wrong) was that all programs existing in the matrix must have a purpose or they are removed. Smiths purpose is to "get" neo. Once neo is defeated, smith has no purpose and will be removed. Neo realizes this, allows smith to take him over, and smith is removed. The one has been defeated six other times or something also right? The war will end for a while, but will eventually start again where another "the one" may sacrafice himself to save humanity as in this one.

You're pretty much right until "Neo realized this. . ." Neo really realizes that the oracle is in Smith, and that in order for smith to be destroyed he has to allow himself to be replicated and turned into smith. Then the machines can zap Neo, who is still sitting in the machine chair and destroy Smith.
 

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Originally posted by: CarpeDeo
Sorry to make this thread longer- but my friend and I are having a dispute and we need you to clarify it.

So my friend said that after agent Smith dies, (after all the other agent Smiths explode), the body of agent Smith's doesn't look like him anymore. He said if anything, it looks like either the general or Neo himself. Anybody else catch this?

Yes, as said, that is the oracle's body you see lying on the ground. Remember when Smith replicated himself through her?