[Official] Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Install/First Impressions/Issues Thread

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alfa147x

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Yep. I think it's still doable. Though myself, I just copied the whole install application over and launched it on a Snow Leopard machine to update.

Here's how to create a bootable disc yourself:
- Download the install app from the Mac App Store
- Right click the app and choose "Show package contents"
- Go inside the "Contents" folder
- Go inside the "SharedSupport" folder
- You'll find "InstallESD.dmg", which is the disc image of Lion
- Burn it or write it to a disc of your choice (make sure the disc is larger than the image)

Source: http://eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/

I was at least able to make a bootable recovery and troubleshooting DVD from that. I'd assume the same holds true for USB.

This is what I did. Worked perfectly!
 

manly

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Yep. I think it's still doable. Though myself, I just copied the whole install application over and launched it on a Snow Leopard machine to update.

Here's how to create a bootable disc yourself:
- Download the install app from the Mac App Store
- Right click the app and choose "Show package contents"
- Go inside the "Contents" folder
- Go inside the "SharedSupport" folder
- You'll find "InstallESD.dmg", which is the disc image of Lion
- Burn it or write it to a disc of your choice (make sure the disc is larger than the image)

Source: http://eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/

I was at least able to make a bootable recovery and troubleshooting DVD from that. I'd assume the same holds true for USB.
From glancing at MacWorld's similar article, this needs to be done before running the downloaded installer.

For installation itself, USB flash should be quite a bit faster than DVD-R; this week Target has a $9 8GB drive if you don't want to wait for Apple's $69 version. ;)
 

MemoryInAGarden

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Mail has gotten hosed since the install and has never launched under Lion. I tried pulling it off the OS disc, but the check option is greyed out. Is there any way i can get this back working without having to uninstall software?
 

TheStu

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I can NOT stand gmail threads. If conversations is anything like that (I have not installed Lion yet), I WILL be turning that off.

The reason I do not like it is that it breaks up/confuses the timeline of my e-mails. I need to know at a glance that this email came before that email in two separate "conversations".

MotionMan

You can turn it off
 

sportage

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Probably been said before, but FYI, you can revert back to the usual mouse scroll operation/direction in the system preferences - mouse, and un-check "scroll direction natural".
 

Kadarin

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Lion installed fine on my vintage '07 'Santa Rosa' MBP (2.4GHz C2D, 4GB, 8600M video), and I'll be testing it. Of course, the gestures are lost for the most part on the older trackpad this thing has, so we'll see how it goes. This machine isn't used for serious work anymore, and I should probably just sell it or something.
 

TheStu

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Lion installed fine on my vintage '07 'Santa Rosa' MBP (2.4GHz C2D, 4GB, 8600M video), and I'll be testing it. Of course, the gestures are lost for the most part on the older trackpad this thing has, so we'll see how it goes. This machine isn't used for serious work anymore, and I should probably just sell it or something.

Yea, I think that most of the features are less cool without the gestures. I personally love the gestures, because my hand is already on the trackpad usually, which means that I don't have to move it to the keyboard or puthte cursor anywhere. Activating Mission Control and Launchpad are both initially cursor agnostic which I like a lot.
 
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Just an update to my prior post with problems using Time Machine - I found that ultimately to get TM to work, I needed to format my TM backup drive and set it up again as a new drive for TM. In an ideal world I would have backed up my backup before doing so, but I don't have much in the way of mission-critical files on my computer anyway so I took a chance. TM then ran fine and I have a current backup of my Lion machine.
 

jalaram

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New Lion Gestures

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silverpig

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I had a definite "middle finger" for the natural scrolling, and a facepalm when I found out my wife's 2008 MacBook was too old for AirDrop.
 

alfa147x

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I had a definite "middle finger" for the natural scrolling, and a facepalm when I found out my wife's 2008 MacBook was too old for AirDrop.

I like the natural scrolling it now matches the way i scroll through spaces
 

kubani1

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first impressions are good, i like spaces and the full screen apps, i wish microsoft office will release an update to use the full screen feature. i also wish firefox or chrome release an update to allow the full screen browsing.

natural scrolling sucks, but its not exactly a big deal to change it.

so far i have not run into any bugs or incompatibilities, i'm impressed.
 

suklee

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My FireFox and Chrome keep crashing whenever I try to use the 3-finger gesture to navigate back/forward. Anyone else?

FIXED by removing /Library/InputManagers. Apparently it's a remnant of Multiclutch.
 

Reliant

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I want Chrome to use the new 2 finger swipe API Safari uses, and I'll be happy! Also, while I like the new mail layout, it seems that my Gmail account using IMAP IDLE doesn't push mail anymore, when it used to. Anyone else experience issues with IMAP IDLE push and the new mail?
 

TheStu

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is there an app to map f11 to fullscreen :)

You could probably use automator or applescript to accomplish it.

I assume you mean fn+f11 beacuse otherwise you are messing with your audio
 

BD2003

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So far the only glitch I'm having is that one app (reeder) perpetually believe it needs an update in the mac app store.

Also finally bought numbers on the mac to go hand in hand with the iOS version, and I'm shocked at how ridiculously unintuitive it is to keep a simple spreadsheet synced between the mac and the iPhone. It literally requires like 10 manual steps just to propagate a change as simple as a line of text changed.

iCloud can't come soon enough.
 

lokiju

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I had to do a reinstall over top my factory lion yesterday. That ended up fixing my issue and so far doesn't seem to have broken anything else.

I don't know how it started but out of the blue I couldn't open any system apps without them crashing. For example, I couldn't open disk utility, activity monitor, key chain manager, directory utility, screen sharing, etc.

Each and every one of those apps would crash when opening them.

I tried booting into the recovery partition and did a permissions and disk repair but the only change that caused was to not get any dump information on a crash. It'd still crash but would have blank dump info.

So I figured I'd try a os reinstall from the recovery partition (I have a 2011 MBA 13" fwiw). After getting it paired to my wifi and going through the options, it took about 20 mins to download the OS, rebooted and took about another 20 mins to do the OS install. It rebooted again and I was back I my OS just as things were set up before the reinstall but now everything worked exactly as it should.

I really wish I knew what caused this. But at least I'm back up and working fully again. I did send a number of the crash dumps to apple, hopefully that'll help in future patches.

I also upgraded my 2ghz mini yesterday remotely. I just used screen sharing to do it all. It took awhile but finally finished and came back up on the network with the static IP I assigned it. So far I haven't run into any issues other than it telling me the dropbox app wasn't compatible. Haven't looked to see if dropbox has a lion supported version yet though.

Apps I was happy to see worked right away were transmission, ps3 media server and my sftp setup.
 

Pliablemoose

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Painless install on base previous gen 11" MBA.

Undid the natural scrolling, god awful, what the he'll were they thinking?

Only problem is that I kept trying to use the screen as a touchpad :(

Just shipped it off to daughter in college to replace her Plastic Mac (the screen died on it).

Added AppleCare to the MBA, CSR promised to email me when the new Airs hit the refurb store, will get a 13" when they show up, or if they list current gen MBP's for $895 again (I screwed up when I didn't jump on one last week, they were only listed for a few hours and disappeared)....
 

lokiju

Lifer
May 29, 2003
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Painless install on base previous gen 11" MBA.

Undid the natural scrolling, god awful, what the he'll were they thinking?

Only problem is that I kept trying to use the screen as a touchpad :(

Just shipped it off to daughter in college to replace her Plastic Mac (the screen died on it).

Added AppleCare to the MBA, CSR promised to email me when the new Airs hit the refurb store, will get a 13" when they show up, or if they list current gen MBP's for $895 again (I screwed up when I didn't jump on one last week, they were only listed for a few hours and disappeared)....

Microcenter has the current gen 13" MBP for $999 always. Stil a decent deal if you have on around you.

Of course if you compare total cost to online stores like amazon and macmall that don't have tax and might have free shipping, it's probably a wash.
 

Pliablemoose

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Microcenter has the current gen 13" MBP for $999 always. Stil a decent deal if you have on around you.

Of course if you compare total cost to online stores like amazon and macmall that don't have tax and might have free shipping, it's probably a wash.

In CA, hard to avoid taxes, everyone seems to have a store here :(
 

Tegeril

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Quicktime is all kinds of broken :( Otherwise after customizing some gestures, I'm pretty happy with Lion.