OFFICIAL KEPLER "GTX680" Reviews

[Keysplayr]

Huh? Why? Is that part of your agreement or something, to use rival products to see how they are good and bad for competitive analysis reasons? Else I don't see a point to doing so.

Man you guys overthink these things. . I like to play with the hardware.
Sometimes I enjoy doing my own benching.

 

[Silverforce11]

I hate price gouging, around here 7970s = ~550 USD, gtx680 = ~650 USD.

Fck me I was willing to pay around $500 but this is insane...

 

[blackened23]

Man you guys overthink these things. . I like to play with the hardware.
Sometimes I enjoy doing my own blenching.

Who doesn't enjoy blenching!

 

[blackened23]

I hate price gouging, around here 7970s = ~550 USD, gtx680 = ~650 USD.

Fck me I was willing to pay around $500 but this is insane...

Are you in asia? What are prices like over there compared to the US?

 

[Silverforce11]

Prices over here are always a bit higher, but the gtx680 is insanely higher.

I'm determined to get the gtx680, since its the only card at that performance level that fits my case and my 450W PSU. Now just have to wait til it settles after the initial gouge.

 

[busydude]

I hate price gouging, around here 7970s = ~550 USD, gtx680 = ~650 USD.

Fck me I was willing to pay around $500 but this is insane...

This is what I've been observing as well. It used to be that nVidia was cheaper when compared to ATi, now things are the opposite.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

So the more I read about this TXAA mode, the more I think it will go the way of physx. Yeah, I went there. :hmm:

Proprietary AA mode that only works on nvidia hardware, has to be specifically implemented on a per game basis by the developers. I think it's safe to assume we will only see this in Mafia 3, Batman 3 and Hawx 3 ?

I don't like the blurry AA modes anyways, I had initially thought that this was something you would be able to turn on via the CP. That is just FXAA that has been added that way though.

Yeah Nvidia should continue to develop and improve new tech that allows a richer, smoother, and more engaging gaming experience and then just throw it to that poor old dog hardware company that has no software of their own. Perhaps they should open up CUDA for AMD since they can't make any software that anyone would actually want to use of their own. :thumbsup:

Can you show us your personal TXAA screen caps that are blurry, I haven't seen anything yet really except the PR shots. It would be great to see what you're seeing though.

 

[chimaxi83]

Small comparison here, TXAA doesn't necessarily look blurry, but it's also not a full screen shot. I like how it looks a lot better than MSAA though (in that shot).

From Legit Reviews:

NVIDIA's new Temporal Anti-Aliasing (TXAA) feature is also worth mentioning as it is going to make your game look better and you'll take less of a performance hit for using it. For example it is said to provide 16x MSAA quality at the cost of 2x-4x MSAA without any blurred effects. TXAA is a mix of hardware anti-aliasing, custom CG film style AA resolve, and in the case of 2xTXAA an optional temporal component for better image quality. It's also a feature that will be added the GeForce GTX 500 series cards with a driver release at a later date, so this will also be available to current owners. TXAA will first be implemented in upcoming game titles shipping later this year.

Not implemented until later this year, meh. But they claim 16xMSAA quality with the cost of 4xMSAA. Hopefully we get an in depth IQ comparison. Until then, I'll do my own comparison when my card gets here

 

[Despoiler]

Can you expand on this please? Getting my cards tomorrow and this knowledge will be great to have. How do I unlock them?

You can't. The BIOS is LOCKED at whatever you buy + whatever the software max. Basically all cards from all manufacturers are the exact same. Someone posted earlier that Nvidia partners are not happy they can't release OC/Superclock boards.

nVidia went balls to wall to get that efficiency out of the GTX 680 lol. They took the Fermi criticism to heart.

Yah and it only took them 3 card generations to figure it out. Nvidia following AMD's strat.....

 

[StinkyPinky]

Nice card. Now when are the 670 and 660 due out?

 

[Grooveriding]

Can you show us your personal TXAA screen caps that are blurry, I haven't seen anything yet really except the PR shots. It would be great to see what you're seeing though.

Once there is a game released that supports it, I'll post some screenies! :sneaky:

 

[aaksheytalwar]

In India, a 7970 is around $700, at release was around $750-800.

GTX 680 will probably release around $650-700 as well.

Hell, even a GTX 570 is still $420+

6990 and 590 are both around $900-1100 or higher.

 

[amenx]

You can't. The BIOS is LOCKED at whatever you buy + whatever the software max. Basically all cards from all manufacturers are the exact same. Someone posted earlier that Nvidia partners are not happy they can't release OC/Superclock boards.

I saw the W1zzard of TPU comment on that, but he could be wrong. Evga are set to release Superclocked and FTW versions, so I think other board manufacturers should have no probs either.

http://www.evga.com/articles/00669/#GTX680FTW

 

[AtenRa]

Faster, lower power and cheaper, im impressed.

Im only curious, what would have happened if HD7970 was released at $399 MSRP in the first place.

I strongly believe NV wasn't aiming to launch the GK104 as a High End flag chip at $499 before December.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Solid launch, great card. I'm impressed and i think that AMD needs to lower the 7970 to $450(stock versions) and $500(oc'd versions), 7950 to $350 and 7870 to $300.

The 7970 can trade blows with the GTX 680 if pushed, i can't wait for oc reviews to pop up.

 

[amenx]

I've like to see some reviews 3 months later, when drivers are further improved, optimized.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

If you overclock a 7970 to 1050-1100 6000-6300 then it is about equal under extreme load, where you really need FPS, so about equal for practical purposes with those overclocks.

And considering most can reach 1200 6300 + overclocks on stock cooling with 60%+ fan, thus it is just like 5-10% slower than the GTX 680 when it loses and sometimes faster than an overclocked 680 and mostly close enough for you to not be able to differentiate, that is a sub 5-10% difference, sometimes one wins, sometimes the other

To make this an upgrade, you should be coming from a 7800/580/6900 series or lower, not 7900 series, not even a 7950 considering you could have gone for the 7970 instead if you wanted every bit of performance (instead of the 7950 that is).

But coming from GTX 580/570 or Radeon 6900, it does make sense. But the radeon isn't exactly bad, but would have been perfect at $450-500

 

[Cookie Monster]

Was looking at the PCB layout, its components and other things and one things for sure. The card is downright cheaper to produce than the HD7970 period. I mean for starters they got away with a 4 phase VRM design using cheap components, a very simple controller for the VRMs, heatpipe based heatsink that looks like ~20% smaller than the vapor chamber the HD7970 uses, yet the card can sustain high clocks, and draw less power than the HD7970 even when overclocked. That is simply impressive in my view. The margins for this card could be huge!

It has "performance" card screaming all over it rather than being a high-end/enthusiast card. Wish they priced this at $349 or $399.

 

[dust]

Was looking at the PCB layout, its components and other things and one things for sure. The card is downright cheaper to produce than the HD7970 period. I mean for starters they got away with a 4 phase VRM design using cheap components, a very simple controller for the VRMs, heatpipe based heatsink that looks like ~20% smaller than the vapor chamber the HD7970 uses, yet the card can sustain high clocks, and draw less power than the HD7970 even when overclocked. That is simply impressive in my view. The margins for this card could be huge!

It has "performance" card screaming all over it rather than being a high-end/enthusiast card. Wish they priced this at $349 or $399.

+1 This pretty much sums up my thoughts also. At the current prince it is a rip off, pretty much like the pricing on 7xxx series as well. Will have to see two-three months later if the price comes to an acceptable level.

 

[Grooveriding]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/1

Guru3D SLI benchmark to see SLI scaling on 680s.

Making me grimace a bit at buying two. I hope this is just a case of driver issues. Fermi SLI scaling is generally close to 100% with two cards, whereas Kepler is about 50-70%.

 

[dust]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/1

Guru3D SLI benchmark to see SLI scaling on 680s.

Making me grimace a bit at buying two. I hope this is just a case of driver issues. Fermi SLI scaling is generally close to 100% with two cards, whereas Kepler is about 50-70%.

That's got to be the drivers, I really don't think they would take such a step back.

 

[-Slacker-]

I hate price gouging, around here 7970s = ~550 USD, gtx680 = ~650 USD.

Fck me I was willing to pay around $500 but this is insane...

It's weird, prices in my country are higher too by about 80$...

 

[Keysplayr]

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/1

Guru3D SLI benchmark to see SLI scaling on 680s.

Making me grimace a bit at buying two. I hope this is just a case of driver issues. Fermi SLI scaling is generally close to 100% with two cards, whereas Kepler is about 50-70%.

Hehe, you don't even have them yet and it begins.
Though there are 301.xx driver out now. WHQL. Which driver did guru use? Checking now.

Ah. "NVIDIA GeForce series latest WHQL 300.99"

I'd wait to see reviews on the newer drivers before even opening the packages.

 

[Grooveriding]

Hehe, you don't even have them yet and it begins.

Because I fabricated some results over at Guru3D. Don't waste forum space with your paranoia replies. Nothing was sensational about my post. It's pretty cut and dry that SLI is not scaling well on Kepler yet.

Nothing in my comments said it's a nail in the coffin or final.

Dude, just don't reply to my posts if you can only offer your usual subtle and immature jabs.

 

[-Slacker-]

Hehe, you don't even have them yet and it begins.

What begins? He only made one factual observation. If we're supposed to wait for the next whql drivers before we can express opinions on this release, then the thread you've made and the 700 comments wouldn't have much of a purpose, since no card tested has a younger forceware than 300.99