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Official ICS & Galaxy Nexus Launch Thread

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Fefster said:
The Nexus One was a huuuuge step up from previous android phones.It was a commercial failure because they tried to sell it mainly unlocked and online and that didn't work.
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Wasn't the Desire the commercial version of the Nexus One? That did pretty well I think.
 
WelshBloke said:
Wasn't the Desire the commercial version of the Nexus One? That did pretty well I think.
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It was but the Desire never hit major carriers in the US and the Nexus One launched 4 months earlier(as opposed to the Nexus S).The Nexus One launched the 1ghz era in the android field.The Desire did extremely well,especially in the UK where,especially in 2010,was hands down the non-Iphone most popular smartphone.
 
Fefster said:
It was but the Desire never hit major carriers in the US and the Nexus One launched 4 months earlier(as opposed to the Nexus S).The Nexus One launched the 1ghz era in the android field.The Desire did extremely well,especially in the UK where,especially in 2010,was hands down the non-Iphone most popular smartphone.
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I thought it came over as the Incredible on Verizon.
 
Demo24 said:
I thought it came over as the Incredible on Verizon.
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No,while they share basically the same screen and a similar SOC,aesthetically they were completely different and they also used different cameras.They also have different successors(Incredible S and Desire S both marketed everywhere).The Desire was brought in the states by US Cellular 6 months after the european release.
 
finbarqs said:
damn... this is somewhat of a disappointment... (leaked specs are most likely true)
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Yes, from the Nexus buyer perspective. Though I don't expect better smartphone chips to show up before March. Granted, the Exynos is faster and the 1.5GHz Snapdragon beats it as well but they won't be able to show it off until they get ICS updates, by then we are lilely to see or at least hear about other ICS native phones.

I think it's the ICS angle and the HD display that makes this phone work more than anything else. Like someone said earlier, Nexus is about a device to show off the platform, not the other way around.
 
Rick James Astley said:
Yes, from the Nexus buyer perspective. Though I don't expect better smartphone chips to show up before March. Granted, the Exynos is faster and the 1.5GHz Snapdragon beats it as well but they won't be able to show it off until they get ICS updates, by then we are lilely to see or at least hear about other ICS native phones.

I think it's the ICS angle and the HD display that makes this phone work more than anything else. Like someone said earlier, Nexus is about a device to show off the platform, not the other way around.
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right but like the iPhone 3GS => 4, the 4 got slaughtered in a lot of graphics because of the increased resolution. Here we see an increase in resolution to 720p, but the same old graphics chip. This wouldn't be a huge problem if Apple didn't really up their graphics on the iPhone 4S. Oh well. Given how Android currently has BARELY any hardware acceleration in the basic UI, if they don't step up their accelerated UI in ICS, the increased resolution could spell LOTS of trouble.
 
DLeRium said:
right but like the iPhone 3GS => 4, the 4 got slaughtered in a lot of graphics because of the increased resolution. Here we see an increase in resolution to 720p, but the same old graphics chip. This wouldn't be a huge problem if Apple didn't really up their graphics on the iPhone 4S. Oh well. Given how Android currently has BARELY any hardware acceleration in the basic UI, if they don't step up their accelerated UI in ICS, the increased resolution could spell LOTS of trouble.
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That's the key thing right there. This isn't some lowly OEM looking to sell cheap hardware. It's actually Google that determined the hardware package. I very much doubt it would have the OMAP4460 if that chip isn't capable of running ICS as Google intended hence being the reference platform.
That gives me hope that Google managed to make ICS much more efficient than previous versions. Logic dictates that the HW acceleration is integrated deeper than before if average hardware is to run the ICS
 
Rick James Astley said:
That's the key thing right there. This isn't some lowly OEM looking to sell cheap hardware. It's actually Google that determined the hardware package. I very much doubt it would have the OMAP4460 if that chip isn't capable of running ICS as Google intended hence being the reference platform.
That gives me hope that Google managed to make ICS much more efficient than previous versions. Logic dictates that the HW acceleration is integrated deeper than before if average hardware is to run the ICS
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The videos of the Galaxy Nexus running ICS have all been fluid, same goes for the Nexus S. The question is how HD videos and games are going to run on the SGX540 with a 720p screen. The UI of the phone is going to be fine.
 
Fefster said:
No,while they share basically the same screen and a similar SOC,aesthetically they were completely different and they also used different cameras.They also have different successors(Incredible S and Desire S both marketed everywhere).The Desire was brought in the states by US Cellular 6 months after the european release.
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On Google's Nexus One sales page they directed Verizon customers to buy the Incredible and didn't offer a Nexus One on Verizon because of it (likely because Verizon wouldn't accept a phone with an OS that didn't include their crapware customizations). Pretty sure the Incredible and Nexus One were similar hardware (not physical form factor, but same SoC), but the Incredible had Sense installed by HTC.
 
Well, we've had a long time to get used to the TI disappointment. Still, the only possible dealbreaker here would be a sealed battery. I don't care how big it is, I need to be able to pop in a replacement.
 
Bateluer said:
The videos of the Galaxy Nexus running ICS have all been fluid, same goes for the Nexus S. The question is how HD videos and games are going to run on the SGX540 with a 720p screen. The UI of the phone is going to be fine.
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Yup.

I have been waiting for this on VZW. I picked up the Bionic for fairly cheap (~$75 if I sell to my friend who wants to buy it if I upgrade) to hold me over. Now I'm not sure if I want this phone or not, and basically I will see if this or the RAZR are better than my Bionic (which was another colossal let down from delays to other crap). We shall see.
 
Bateluer said:
The videos of the Galaxy Nexus running ICS have all been fluid, same goes for the Nexus S. The question is how HD videos and games are going to run on the SGX540 with a 720p screen. The UI of the phone is going to be fine.
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I would certainly hope so. If we compare the A4 vs. the OMAP4460, TI's chip beats it with the A9 Cortex architecture and clock, DDR2 memory speed and quantity as well as with a better GPU that's been heavily OC'ed.

While the Nexus has more pixels to push, it's hardware is superior. The reason I bring up the iphone is because it was the first one to deal with the toll of a res bump. We have seen the iphone 4 video rec/playback as well as it's gaming ability. I wouldn't trust one early set of benchmarks just yet but this score indicates what I would describe as "tolerable"

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedet...pro21&D=Google+Galaxy+Nexus&testgroup=overall

I guess the point I try to make is that there was a lot of overhead in Android's efficiency, especially compared to the iphone 4 that allowed Google to get decent performance out of OMAP4460. Looking at how the iphone4 did, Nexus should be fine.
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tdawg said:
On Google's Nexus One sales page they directed Verizon customers to buy the Incredible and didn't offer a Nexus One on Verizon because of it (likely because Verizon wouldn't accept a phone with an OS that didn't include their crapware customizations). Pretty sure the Incredible and Nexus One were similar hardware (not physical form factor, but same SoC), but the Incredible had Sense installed by HTC.
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They were extremely similar but there are a couple of key differences:the form factor(desire and nexus one are exactly the same except for capacitive vs physical buttons),the camera(8mp dual led on the inc,5mp n1) and the touch panel:n1 and desire have a 2 points touchscreen with an inverted axis problem,while the inc has an extremely accurate 5 or more,don't exactly remember,points.N1,Desire,DInc and EVO4G all share the same SOC(GSM or CDMA flavoured).The N1 was expected to launch on Verizon but they decided against releasing it after witnessing the extremely low sales numbers of the unlocked and t-mo versions.N1=Desire,DInc close but not quite the same.
 
Fefster said:
They were extremely similar but there are a couple of key differences:the form factor(desire and nexus one are exactly the same except for capacitive vs physical buttons),the camera(8mp dual led on the inc,5mp n1) and the touch panel:n1 and desire have a 2 points touchscreen with an inverted axis problem,while the inc has an extremely accurate 5 or more,don't exactly remember,points.N1,Desire,DInc and EVO4G all share the same SOC(GSM or CDMA flavoured).The N1 was expected to launch on Verizon but they decided against releasing it after witnessing the extremely low sales numbers of the unlocked and t-mo versions.N1=Desire,DInc close but not quite the same.
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IF they sold the N1 with an in-store display for VZW, it would have sold just as well as the Incredible would have. That's all.

Rick James Astley said:
That's the key thing right there. This isn't some lowly OEM looking to sell cheap hardware. It's actually Google that determined the hardware package. I very much doubt it would have the OMAP4460 if that chip isn't capable of running ICS as Google intended hence being the reference platform.
That gives me hope that Google managed to make ICS much more efficient than previous versions. Logic dictates that the HW acceleration is integrated deeper than before if average hardware is to run the ICS
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I'm hoping that too. Even though Apple made iOS insanely backwards compatible, you can already see the 3G dying on iOS 4, and the 3GS struggling to keep up with its 256mb ram. on iOS4. As much as I'd like to see ICS run well, there's something that tells me that every new OS has so many more features that it inherently requires more powerful hardware. I'm hoping my Nexus S will be ok on ICS.

Better yet, I'd love to see my touchpad run ICS 😀
 
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Pocketnow reports all 3 phones, the Nexus, the Razr and the Rezound to land same day, November 10.

I don't know the details but I think Verizon made a mistake by not picking up the SGS2. I am pretty sure Sprint picking up subsidy for the Nexus S didn't go unnoticed by VZW so they want to strengthen the line up. If VZW is indeed getting & launching all 3 at the same time they are set to make serious holiday sales.
 
Something just occurred to me, with ICS the menu key is now gone. How do you access settings from already existing applications? I've never spent enough time with a HC tablet to give this a try...
 
Red Storm said:
Something just occurred to me, with ICS the menu key is now gone. How do you access settings from already existing applications? I've never spent enough time with a HC tablet to give this a try...
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I'm pretty sure the menu key is still there and it's the search key that's gone?
 
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