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Official ICS & Galaxy Nexus Launch Thread

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Everything I've read says Verizon has an exclusive deal only for a few weeks or a month at most. I don't see it being a Verizon only phone in the US.




... but the long time Verizon customer in me just has to say it... Suck it fools! Too long have we had to put up with device after device not showing up on our network, but finally we get one! It feels bad, but it feels good too. :awe: D:
 
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This. I have never seen a web browser on my Droid 1 or T-Bolt stutter like that, after all the page elements were loaded. Even now, just pulled up ESPN.com on my phone, and its just as smooth as the other phones in that video.

Granted, I'm sure the RFS file system and Android 2.1 that the Vibrant originally shipped with didn't do it any favors. Not sure what build the Vibrant in the video was running though.
You were saying? Are you going to blame RFS for Nexus S too?
 
This. I have never seen a web browser on my Droid 1 or T-Bolt stutter like that, after all the page elements were loaded. Even now, just pulled up ESPN.com on my phone, and its just as smooth as the other phones in that video.

Granted, I'm sure the RFS file system and Android 2.1 that the Vibrant originally shipped with didn't do it any favors. Not sure what build the Vibrant in the video was running though.

That video was stock 2.2 - however, its not much better with CM7.

Like the description says, it isn't ALWAYS like that, but the Android browser, in my experience, just doesn't do full websites very smoothly. That's not to say Android sucks because of this, its just a simple fact that the stock browser has a habit of being stuttery.

I agree that Opera Mobile is considerably better, but I would imagine the vast majority of Android users don't know about it - plus, for me at least, it takes a long time to load, which I find irritating. Its an improvement, though.
 
What sites don't work? I'm honestly asking cause I don't know, the day I installed Opera Mobile I used Launcher Pro to hide the stock browser from my app drawer cause I have never once needed to use it since then.

the only thing that doesn't work for me in opera is Amazons Gold Box Deals
doesn't work in opera on the PC either :/

also you cant get to them from the amazon ap which is stupid, its the only thing i use the default browser for
 
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I agree that Opera Mobile is considerably better, but I would imagine the vast majority of Android users don't know about it - plus, for me at least, it takes a long time to load, which I find irritating. Its an improvement, though.

Whats crazy is that Opera Mobile on iPhone4 is even smoother than stock iOS5 Safari. Unfortunately Opera Mobile doesn't render websites correctly sometimes, so I'm forced to revert back to stock.
 
You were saying? Are you going to blame RFS for Nexus S too?

Not sure whats going on in his video, but as you can see, the comments are calling him out too.

I've got the stock Android Browser, from Android 2.3.7, and Opera Mobile up on ThisismyNext and espn.go.com up in both browsers right now on my t-bolt, and its every bit as smooth as his iOS 3GS browser. Once the page loads all the way, anyway, only get 1 bar of 3G service in this building.

I'd attempt to duplicate it on the Droid 1, but I sold it months ago. Outside of an extremely flash heavy website, in which I started all the Flash, I've never been able to duplicate lag like that.
 
Not sure whats going on in his video, but as you can see, the comments are calling him out too.

I've got the stock Android Browser, from Android 2.3.7, and Opera Mobile up on ThisismyNext and espn.go.com up in both browsers right now on my t-bolt, and its every bit as smooth as his iOS 3GS browser. Once the page loads all the way, anyway, only get 1 bar of 3G service in this building.

I'd attempt to duplicate it on the Droid 1, but I sold it months ago. Outside of an extremely flash heavy website, in which I started all the Flash, I've never been able to duplicate lag like that.

I was curious about this as well. NYtimes, espn..all work fine for me once loaded. Espn is a bit stuttery, but there is a ton of stuff on that page and im on a 2yr old phone(and by stuttery I mean slight choppiness is moving around, but no real delays).

However this site is the first to give me problems:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/galaxy-nexus-android-ice-cream-sandwich-pictures-video-hands-on/

It's only the picture galleries that exhibit the issue. The top portion, or anything below it is smooth as anything. But man those galleries just bring it to a stand still. No idea what is going on there, poor coding? Never really got it to finish loading either, not sure if combination of loading it off 3g and displaying it or just the gallery codes locking things up.
 
that's a nexus s? that video is full of LOL, but I'm interested in hearing explanations.

I've never had my Nexus S act like that but if it did with him then so be it. Even when I just tried that site in the video and full engadget site which has tons of images, my Nexus S has never acted like that on stock browser. Page scrolling isn't super smooth on engadget but still very smooth and pinch to zoom is super smooth.
 
However this site is the first to give me problems:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/galaxy-nexus-android-ice-cream-sandwich-pictures-video-hands-on/

It's only the picture galleries that exhibit the issue. The top portion, or anything below it is smooth as anything. But man those galleries just bring it to a stand still. No idea what is going on there, poor coding? Never really got it to finish loading either, not sure if combination of loading it off 3g and displaying it or just the gallery codes locking things up.

The TISM ICS page is where I went too, on the T-Bolt. Was just as smooth as the iOS browser in the Vimeo video. Not sure what was going on the video, some background app chewing up CPU cycles maybe?
 
I will admit, I HATE the default SGS2 browser. First website I pulled up (mobile ESPN) lagged on it. That is why I replaced it so quickly. It is just terrible to me. Luckily benchmarks say Google has huge improvements in the newest Gingerbread builds, let alone ICS.

Well, I wouldn't trust benchmarks much. According to benchmark alone, my Captivate should have been a lot faster than my iPhone 4, yet my browsing experience is just much more pleasant on the 4. I could zoom in and out, highlight and copy texts, and do crazy things without having to worry about being force-closed... or without stuttering and freezing. That usually puts me off whenever I'm formulating a long response somewhere and I don't want to lose all that stuffs I just wrote.

And when it came to Flash, there was no comparison, but... God forbid people put their videos in a native format that Android could understand! For instance, I couldn't watch videos from Vimeo or Engadget if Flash was turned off, but as soon as I turned it on, it would take forever to load or response.

On the iPhone 4, I simply click the video and watch it.

That's still something I dread to this day. It's not like I really need Flash to watch those video clips if the iPhone could watch it, but for some reason, a lot of websites refuse to serve non-Flash contents to Android. Gotta thank Adobe for that, I guess...

See, that is strange to me because I use a Live Wallpaper all the time just because it doesn't seem to effect the performance to me (does effect battery life). Of course I started changing things early so maybe I just never ran into those problems with the stock experience because I never really gave it a chance.

I think it depends on which Live Wallpaper you use. Some are just poorly coded.

The TISM ICS page is where I went too, on the T-Bolt. Was just as smooth as the iOS browser in the Vimeo video. Not sure what was going on the video, some background app chewing up CPU cycles maybe?

I think it's simply that the rendering thread under Android sometimes gets bogged and it kills performance where it shouldn't.

That coupled with the browser not acting right with HTML5 elements and even legacy CSS codes, and you get a hell of a lot of lag.

It's unpredictable to say the least. And when I was on my Captivate, Opera Mobile would force close or close itself down a lot due to low memory (low memory on a 512MB RAM device? To clarify, it only has 384MB available, but still...), so that was why I preferred stock browser to it. Firefox was even less stable.
 
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My only issue is the size of this thing. I wish it was the size of the DROID RAZR, or the International version of the SII. I think they hit and went beyond my personal threshold with the Sprint SII Epic Touch Wiz Bang Hamilton Beach Toaster.

I think the DROID RAZR will sell like hotcakes. It's meant for consumption among 90% of the targeted crowd.

This is meant for geeks. Nothing wrong with that. We are in numbers even though it pales in comparison to normal people.
 
I've had that shit happen a lot on my Nexus S. If we go into a image heavy page, even after it has loaded everything... it will stutter like that.
 
its really not that much bigger then the razor or the GS2

I feel like the GSII is already a wee bit too big for me. I think if it had the curved design like the Nexi, it would be perfect.

but looking at the comparison pic with those 2 phones, the Nexus looks like a freaking aircraft carrier to me.

I know it's only a few cm in difference, but I think after some time it would be quite noticeable.

For me, the only thing I feel that I am missing with my GS2 is ICS. give me that, and I will feel 0 remorse for that decision. I have absolutely no reason to watch a movie on my phone, so the resolution on the Nexus is irrelevant to me.

Really--do people actually watch movies on these things? I don't get it.
 
I feel like the GSII is already a wee bit too big for me. I think if it had the curved design like the Nexi, it would be perfect.

but looking at the comparison pic with those 2 phones, the Nexus looks like a freaking aircraft carrier to me.

I know it's only a few cm in difference, but I think after some time it would be quite noticeable.

For me, the only thing I feel that I am missing with my GS2 is ICS. give me that, and I will feel 0 remorse for that decision. I have absolutely no reason to watch a movie on my phone, so the resolution on the Nexus is irrelevant to me.

Really--do people actually watch movies on these things? I don't get it.

Higher resolution helps in everything not just movies.
 
Just flashed the CWR zip for the Roboto font to my T-bolt. Readability seems a little improved, though I'm hard pressed to tell the difference. Might be more noticeable on the 720p display on the GN though.
 
Higher resolution helps in everything not just movies.

no doubt. But on a 4.65 inch screen....meh. For me, AMOLED is sufficient.

I don't disparage the increase in resolution, of course, and I'd like to see that become the standard (battery being capable, naturally). I simply don't see it as the reason for me to get giddy, all else being equal.
 
So I think my decision will be
if my Desire Z can be upgraded to ICS (either through official channels or via the XDA community) and run it reasonably smoothly, I'll stick with it through this generation of android.

If not, I'll be looking for the first 3.8" - 4" slide out QWERTY native ICS device.
 
So I think my decision will be
if my Desire Z can be upgraded to ICS (either through official channels or via the XDA community) and run it reasonably smoothly, I'll stick with it through this generation of android.

If not, I'll be looking for the first 3.8" - 4" slide out QWERTY native ICS device.

probably next version of MyTouch, or whatever it is on your carrier?

Qwerty seems to be fading rapidly. I was like you, though--very much wanted to keep to a qwerty keyboard, and lamented the loss of one on my shit-ass Samsung Behold for two years.

but with Swype....I see no reason for Qwerty any more. It is that good.
 
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