Official Haswell Refresh prices.

NTMBK

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Yawwwwwwn.

Any word on when Devil's Canyon or the LGA Broadwell Iris Pro are coming out?
 

witeken

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Devil's Canyon: mid-2014.

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Broadwell: ???

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rtsurfer

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I thought Devil's Canyon was the Haswell refresh.

I am more interested in Haswell-E.
When is it coming.?
June.?
 

witeken

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So what does "updated packaging materials" mean? A new box????

Anand Ian Cutress:

"Updated packaging could lead to a thicker/thinner heatspreader, focusing more on the hot areas of the die, or a different binding agent between the PCB and the heatspreader. It may turn out easier to remove the heatspreader if needed, or harder."
 
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ShintaiDK

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Anand:

"Updated packaging could lead to a thicker/thinner heatspreader, focusing more on the hot areas of the die, or a different binding agent between the PCB and the heatspreader. It may turn out easier to remove the heatspreader if needed, or harder."

Its not the TIM. That part already got its own category. And he seems to just guess.

I would put my money on something much simpler. The cardboard box. K models today dont stand out.

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They look just as the non K counterparts. Unlike this:
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coolpurplefan

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I only quickly searched yesterday but looks like they already started shipping. But this is apparently for the non-K models followed by the K models in June.

I'm still wondering if I'll need to flash my BIOS on my Asrock Fatality H87 Performance motherboard. I don't have a CPU yet to flash the BIOS so I prefer to wait to see which CPU will be compatible with the mobo without a BIOS flash.
 

Phynaz

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Intel is stealing from AMD's playbook with this one.

100Mhz clock bumps are lame.
 

Elixer

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They do have to last till Skylake if you exclude K models.

And that could be a very, very long time, since AMD has virtually no answer for anything in the upper mid to high end until 2017-2018, if at all.
 

ShintaiDK

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And that could be a very, very long time, since AMD has virtually no answer for anything in the upper mid to high end until 2017-2018, if at all.

Its not longer than usual. And AMD is completely irrelvant and have been so for quite some years.

Old priority was server, mobile, desktop, atom. New priority is server, mobile, atom, desktop.

When Skylake hits Intels 14nm capacity can fill all 4 segments.
 

zir_blazer

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Was I the only one that find amusing that the top Itanium parts are cheaper that top Xeon E7 parts?
 

escrow4

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Looking at Afterburner my 4770 non K hits 3.7GHz to 3.8GHz depending on core load in game. This will give me what? An extra 100MHz? Seriously Intel . . . . . . make a fresh new locked i7 with no iGPU running at 4.0GHz stock, boost to 4.3Ghz at least and I'll buy that day one.
 

NTMBK

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Looking at Afterburner my 4770 non K hits 3.7GHz to 3.8GHz depending on core load in game. This will give me what? An extra 100MHz? Seriously Intel . . . . . . make a fresh new locked i7 with no iGPU running at 4.0GHz stock, boost to 4.3Ghz at least and I'll buy that day one.

If you really want a performance increase, Haswell-E is out later this year.
 

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Looking at Afterburner my 4770 non K hits 3.7GHz to 3.8GHz depending on core load in game. This will give me what? An extra 100MHz? Seriously Intel . . . . . . make a fresh new locked i7 with no iGPU running at 4.0GHz stock, boost to 4.3Ghz at least and I'll buy that day one.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the turbo speeds are the same.

On ordinary Haswell Refresh, yes- on "Devil's Canyon", supposedly not.

It's no issue on Haswell refresh, at stock speeds temps are fine.

As for Devils Canyon, I wonder how much they can 'optimize' it. Idontcare showed that the current tim isn't so bad at all, very close to noctua tim. From the way they say it I don't think they will go back to soldering, although you could see solder as 'tim' too I suppose.

I'm really wondering when we will see that Broadwell cpu. Will it be short-lived or will we have to wait a long time for Skylake?
 

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Intel knows that AMD basically jumped off the high end ship, I can see that they're going to slow down on their lines, kind of like how Nvidia did for the past 3 years while AMD played catch up with their GPU's.
 

rtsurfer

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Intel knows that AMD basically jumped off the high end ship, I can see that they're going to slow down on their lines, kind of like how Nvidia did for the past 3 years while AMD played catch up with their GPU's.

Sometimes slowing down is not a good thing.
Your opponent might pass you if you wait for too long.
Kind of like what happened to Nvidia.
 

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There will be 8-core (16 thread) Haswell-E goodness for enthusiasts as soon as Q3 and there's a 14C/28T monster coming to servers. I don't think AMD will catch up anytime soon.

In early 2015 Intel will have cheapo 14nm Braswell parts with greatly improved graphics performance (up to 16 Gen 8 EUs is my guess) and likely even lower power than Bay Trail-D, socketed Broadwell 4C+GT3e (K models) and LGA2011 hexa-core/octo-core Haswell-E for enthusiasts. An impressive desktop line up for each segment IMHO.