Official GTX560 Review Thread (updated with 17 reviews at this time)

[Mistwalker]

Pretty beastly value, it would take a very rigid single-card-only buyer to consider a 580 vs. a pair of these in SLI...for the same price.

Getting 1GB 6950 cards out was a fair move by AMD but overall the 560 is just a better buy IMHO.

 

[Borealis7]

so the reference 560Ti is basically 470 performance @ 460 power draw?
i'd say that's pretty good. but if the 6950 1GB is cheaper, i'll still buy it instead.

 

[Castiel]

yea your right, and the default gtx560 is 18$ cheaper shipped. Good now?

Back to the gtx560...................:whiste:

Anything better price performance then the gtx560 SOC (equal to the gtx570 performance) for 275$?

I see no point in buying the SOC card. The 249 dollar Asus will hit the same clocks. Pocket the difference and get the Asus

 

[Lonyo]

+1 and totally agree.

the 560 appears to be 367mm2 (from wiki's and sites)
the 69xx appears to be 389mm2 (from wiki's and sites)

With how close they are in terms of performance/mm2, Nvidia made a huge comeback (or Amds new arch just failed,depending on how you look at it glass half full half empty).

The slight egde the 6950 1gb has on the 560, probably wont justify the size increase of it in terms of performance/mm2. You can tell their priced so close as well, man its a close race at that price range.

6950 uses less watts, the 560 has a slightly more quiet cooler.
6950 has mlaa/eyefinity, the 560 has cuda/physx.





are you implying that if you look fps shooter games, you should get amd? and if you want flight/car raceing games/simulators you should get a nvidia card?

You're missing an important part of your comparison.
The 6950 is 389mm^2, but not a full performance part.
The GTX560 is a full performance part.
So a crippled 389mm^2 die is faster than a non-crippled 36xmm^2 die.

 

[happy medium]

I see no point in buying the SOC card. The 249 dollar Asus will hit the same clocks. Pocket the difference and get the Asus

If the gtx560 vanilla cards hit over 1000 core on stock voltage, I agree.

But

I like the garauntee of a 1000 core clock and more for only 25$ more.
The card did get 1044 core at stock voltage.

 

[Castiel]

If the gtx560 vanilla cards hit over 1000 core on stock voltage, I agree.

But

I like the garauntee of a 1000 core clock and more for only 25$ more.
The card did get 1044 core at stock voltage.

I didn't see any reviews of vanilla 560's anywhere.

 

[Stoneburner]

I don't understand the comments in this thread. The 6950 is in the same price range and performs better. Why is the 560 considered so great? All the reviews indicate it's between a 6870 and 6950 in performance.

What am I missing here? The 6950 1gb seems like a damn good value.

 

[wanderer27]

I still don't understand how Anandtech gets such higher FPS results on their reviews compared to other reviews, and as best I can tell the reso, AA etc are all the same:
GTX 560 1680 X 1020, 4AA, Bad Company 2:
Anandtech: 115.8
Hardware Canucks: 60.85
Bit Tech: 71(tainted by using 0AA)
Techpowerup: 71.9
Edit, tom's hardware has 105.2(using 8XMSAA not 4xAA). This one meshes with AT, but might be the only one.
Edit: Hexus, 65.5
Edit: PC Perspective, 106

A section of only 4 reviews, but I don't think you'll find any others registering 115 FPS...any thoughts on how this is? Are these extrapolated theoretical GPU only FPS results if CPU was unlimited...or something?

Edit: There were more reviews than I thought, so I've edited the results in. Still, you have situation where half have very high FPS(AT, TH, Pc Perspective) and the others have just over that magical FPS number of 60. Who is right?

Nah, they don't look that far off.

Anand isn't using AA as you have listed, and some of the other sites are using various mixes of AA & AF.

They look to average out pretty well.

 

[Vette73]

yea your right, and the default gtx560 is 18$ cheaper shipped.The 6950 1gb does not unlock and thats what we are talking about. . Good now?

Back to the gtx560...................:whiste:

Anything better price performance then the gtx560 SOC (equal to the gtx570 performance) for 275$?

You do know there are factory overclocked 6950s right?

That and you are trying to use 1 card for the entire 560 line. I am showing the default 6950 is better than the default 560. If you want to spend extra, overclock, unlock etc... then that is a whole other point and maybe 1 card will shine brighter in that case.
But oem to oem the 6950 seems to be winning.

 

[Castiel]

You do know there are factory overclocked 6950s right?

That and you are trying to use 1 card for the entire 560 line. I am showing the default 6950 is better than the default 560. If you want to spend extra, overclock, unlock etc... then that is a whole other point and maybe 1 card will shine brighter in that case.
But oem to oem the 6950 seems to be winning.

More of a push for me between the two as they perform about the same in BC2

 

[Castiel]

Newegg finally put up the 560's

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...560+Ti&x=0&y=0

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

Nah, they don't look that far off.

Anand isn't using AA as you have listed, and some of the other sites are using various mixes of AA & AF.

They look to average out pretty well.

Anand is using 4XAA, I didn't say they weren't. Hardware Canucks is using same and gets 61, whereas BitTech is using 0 and still only gets 71.

All of those but bit tech and Tom's are using same reso and AA as Anandtech...

 

[Vette73]

Newegg finally put up the 560's

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...560+Ti&x=0&y=0

Nothing comes up for your link.

 

[happy medium]

I am showing the default 6950 is better than the default 560.

I said "you were right", can you stop derailing now?

We are talking about a gtx560 SOC vs a gtx 570 for 75$ less. The 6950 1gb is not in the same league for only 13$ less.

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

Does Twin Frozr II vent out the back of the case? That's the one I'm looking at...

 

[Wreckage]

From the Anandtech article...

The GTX 560 Ti ultimately has the edge: it’s a bit faster and it’s quieter than the 6950

:thumbsup:

Looks like a very nice card. Had I not already purchased a 470, this would be the card I would want. Twin Frozr II for $249. Not bad.

 

[happy medium]

The Gigabyte oc @ 900 core for 255$ shipped is a real good value also.
Performance should be in between a 6950 and gtx570.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...25363&cm_re=GTX_560_Ti-_-14-125-363-_-Product

 

[4ghz]

I don't understand the comments in this thread. The 6950 is in the same price range and performs better. Why is the 560 considered so great? All the reviews indicate it's between a 6870 and 6950 in performance.

What am I missing here? The 6950 1gb seems like a damn good value.

The difference in overclocking potential is what I see. Hardware canucks was able to get an extra 169 mhz out of a gtx 560 but only 55mhz out of the 6950 1gb at stock voltages. The 560 also seems to run cooler so when volts are added the 6950 is going to past the comfort zone quicker.

 

[Castiel]

I'd love to see some 1050 core benchmarks between a 560 and a 6950

Also the Galaxy 570 now has a 30 dollar MIR on the egg.

 

[happy medium]

The difference in overclocking potential is what I see. Hardware canucks was able to get an extra 169 mhz out of a gtx 560 but only 55mhz out of the 6950 1gb at stock voltages.

So what are your thoughts on a gtx560 at 1000 core for 275$ (75$ less) then the gtx570 ,when you look at that benchmark?

 

[Castiel]

560 Twin Frozr II has hit 1070/1200 mem

 

[wanderer27]

Anand is using 4XAA, I didn't say they weren't. Hardware Canucks is using same and gets 61, whereas BitTech is using 0 and still only gets 71.

All of those but bit tech and Tom's are using same reso and AA as Anandtech...

No, Anand is not using AA at 1680 x 1050:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-upsetting-the-250-market/10

He is at all the other resolutions though, not sure why he's doing that . . .

 

[happy medium]

I'd love to see some 1050 core benchmarks between a 560 and a 6950

Also the Galaxy 570 now has a 30 dollar MIR on the egg.

Simple add 4% to these benchmarks and it beats a gtx570.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-gtx-560-ti-soc-review/17


There is no way they can keep the gtx570 at 350$ ,when this card is 98% as fast for 75$ less.

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

No, Anand is not using AA at 1680 x 1050:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-upsetting-the-250-market/10

He is at all the other resolutions though, not sure why he's doing that . . .

I didn't catch that, so either he isn't using 4XAA or didn't put it. However, check this out:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/amds-radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950/18

This review does state 4XAA at 1680. And again, major FPS increases compared to other reviews. At 1680, at least, I don't spend any time comparing other resolutions. Edit: FPS numbers from the old 6950/6970 review which stated 4XAA are the same as those used for today's review which didn't specify 4XAA. Is it possible they never use AA at that resolution but that's always been put that they are?

Moving to 1920 and 4XAA:
Anandtech 61.7
Techpowerup 58.5
Hardware Canucks 49.22
PC Perspective 84(WTF??)

It looks like Anandtech might have specifying 4Xaa for previous reviews at 1680 but not actually using it?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Nice review of the NV card also the 6950 looks great in comparsion making it easily the best by . If it unlocks to 6970 its best buy comparred to the 560. So why so many review sites using O/C ed cards . NV is spreading out the payollia. What happened to the referance card reviews . No 2600k benchmarks should exist following the review sites lead . everthing should be O/C from here on out . Whats fair for NV is fair for all others. NO more referance reviews . It looks like AMD 6950 just blew the lid off of the $250 price market. Along with the slower 560. Great cards both of them