Official GTX 590 Review Thread (23 reviews at this time)

[MoMeanMugs]

Hitler does a review of the GTX590.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFqxn804Vmk

LOL!

"Better put some lights or something on it to make it stand out."

That Hitler video never gets old!

I'm sure nVidia will get this resolved, but that's kind of embarrassing. To the person that made the comment that a majority of them would have to fail before considering the product a failure, I don't agree with that. Xbox 360 was considered a failure for a long time at about 30%. I'd consider anything over 10% pretty bad. Like anything else, people only complain about faulty products on the internet. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of this.

 

[Jionix]

Hey, who was it that was complaining about AMD's hot-fix driver releases?

Because in the 5 days following the 590 was launched, Nvidia have put out, what? 3 driver releases? And what these drivers are doing isn't exactly being explained.

I think the clocks have been reduced even further for higher load situations, so this means that instead of going up, the 590 performance is going down..

Someone should do a test between the different drivers in the games that put the most load on the cards.

 

[SolMiester]

I don't see the big upside to the 590 over the 6990. At resolutions where these cards are most useful, the 580 doesn't enjoy any big advantage in performance over the 6970. Given the added efficiency of the 6990, I think what we're seeing now could very well be the status quo.

I dont think resolution is king, the 590 when working enables 3D and PhysX on the one card, neither of these card is efficient...and IMO only suitable if under water!

 

[thilanliyan]

Hitler does a review of the GTX590.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFqxn804Vmk

"Enthusiasts don't give two shits about a quiet cooler!!"

That made me laugh out loud, literally. :biggrin:

AND,
"nVidia ALWAYS lies about the power draw!"

A bit harsh but,
"Don't worry, the cyanide will make us forget all this"



Hahaha that was one of the better Hitler videos.

 

[Idontcare]

The person who wrote that does not understand how electronics work very well. First a resistor does not act as a fuse, and would not blow up anyway. Second that was definitely NOT a MOSFET.

I once bought a large ceramic resistor from Radio Shack, thing was like 4" long and maybe 1cm^2 in area, and I pushed too many volts for to long and the thing got really hot and did literally explode all over the room. Ceramic shards went everywhere. And the next effect on the circuit was that it was now "electrically open" very much an analogous function to an electrical fuse. (incandescent light bulbs will do it too)

But I agree, resistors are not supposed to be used as circuit breakers or fuses.

 

[MrK6]

Hey, who was it that was complaining about AMD's hot-fix driver releases?

Because in the 5 days following the 590 was launched, Nvidia have put out, what? 3 driver releases? And what these drivers are doing isn't exactly being explained.

I think the clocks have been reduced even further for higher load situations, so this means that instead of going up, the 590 performance is going down..

Someone should do a test between the different drivers in the games that put the most load on the cards.

You'll notice that a few very vocal advocates are suddenly nowhere to be seen... what a surprise.

I dont think resolution is king, the 590 when working enables 3D and PhysX on the one card, neither of these card is efficient...and IMO only suitable if under water!

Bolded, that's a hell of a qualifier for this card. And the the 6990 is actually very efficient. In fact, it's still more power efficient than any card offered by NVIDIA, according to TPU - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_590/24.html

EDIT: And the Hitler video is well done, lmao :thumbsup:

 

[TerabyteX]

I don't see the big upside to the 590 over the 6990. At resolutions where these cards are most useful, the 580 doesn't enjoy any big advantage in performance over the 6970. Given the added efficiency of the 6990, I think what we're seeing now could very well be the status quo.

Also add the fact that CF scales slightly better than SLI.

EDIT: That Hitler video was funny.

 

[Dark Shroud]

That Hitler video was hilarious. It is one of the better ones.

I dont think resolution is king, the 590 when working enables 3D and PhysX on the one card, neither of these card is efficient...and IMO only suitable if under water!

More than a few of us do go past 1080p on our monitors. Trying to run GPU PhysX on a GTX 590 would very much defeat the purpose of it.

 

[SolMiester]

That Hitler video was hilarious. It is one of the better ones.



More than a few of us do go past 1080p on our monitors. Trying to run GPU PhysX on a GTX 590 would very much defeat the purpose of it.

What?..I dont agree with that...the whole point of the 590 is to bring a performance level on one card where you can enable these image enhancers.....A single 580 is enough for 25x16...
Also, more than a few.....that probably need qualifing really, I doubt there is more than 1% out of the VC&G forum that use 25x16 or greater....the 590 wasnt created for 1% only!

 

[MrK6]

What?..I dont agree with that...the whole point of the 590 is to bring a performance level on one card where you can enable these image enhancers.....A single 580 is enough for 25x16...
Also, more than a few.....that probably need qualifing really, I doubt there is more than 1% out of the VC&G forum that use 25x16 or greater....the 590 wasnt created for 1% only!

<1% of games use GPU PhysX, so by your argument, yes, it was.

 

[badb0y]

Hitler does a review of the GTX590.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFqxn804Vmk

"Ironically as nVidia wants to make CPUs, a company making CPUs is beating them in making GPUs!"

I fell outta my chair lol.

 

[3DVagabond]

"Ironically as nVidia wants to make CPUs, a company making CPUs is beating them in making GPUs!"

I fell outta my chair lol.

That was my favorite line too. :thumbsup:

 

[Will Robinson]

"Fate,it seems...is not without a sense of irony.":sneaky:

 

[Martimus]

I once bought a large ceramic resistor from Radio Shack, thing was like 4" long and maybe 1cm^2 in area, and I pushed too many volts for to long and the thing got really hot and did literally explode all over the room. Ceramic shards went everywhere. And the next effect on the circuit was that it was now "electrically open" very much an analogous function to an electrical fuse. (incandescent light bulbs will do it too)

But I agree, resistors are not supposed to be used as circuit breakers or fuses.

Lol. I once took a 6800uF electrolytic capacitor and hooked up a 150A power supply to it backwards. I put it between the workbench and the concrete wall, and slowly turned up the voltage. Once I got to maybe 15 volts or so (I dont' really remember to be honest, I am just guessing on this one) the voltage suddenly dropped and the current spiked to maybe 200A. The cap blew up and sounded like a shotgun in the lab, and there was literally shrapnel stuck in the concrete wall.

Now it wasn't supposed to be an M80, but that is what it ended up acting like once used incorrectly. I just wanted to see what would happen when you applied voltage incorrectly to an electrolytic capacitor.

Although I have never killed a resistor. I have burned the hell out of them by surging current through them, but they never burnt to the point where they were an open circuit (although I think the resistance value changed, I can't remember to be honest). Obviously fuses and lightbulbs are also resistors, and I have broken those circuits, but those are designed to break under too much load.

 

[Elfear]

A single 580 is enough for 25x16...

No, it really isn't. It will work if you want to turn settings down in some games but that can be said of a lot of cards out there. You really need dual cards to keep things looking purty at 2560x1600 and they need more than 1GB of vram apiece too.

that probably need qualifing really, I doubt there is more than 1% out of the VC&G forum that use 25x16 or greater....the 590 wasnt created for 1% only!

I'll bet the % of people who use 1600p monitors is >= to the % of people who would use a $700+ video card. They are both for a small niche market.

 

[SolMiester]

<1% of games use GPU PhysX, so by your argument, yes, it was.

You purposely left 3d out of that equation?

 

[MrK6]

You purposely left 3d out of that equation?

<1% of the population uses a 3D capable monitor. It's still the same point.

 

[pcm81]

Less than 1&#37; of the population reading this post will understand its significance. So, why did I bother typing it?

 

[Dudler]

Damn, you guys don't let up do you?

The GTX-590 just came out. It seems to have some serious OC'ing issues but almost all of the cases where the GPU died have been due to over-volting, not OC'ing with stock voltages.

Plus, once the drivers mature for the GTX-590, it should perform well. Perhaps NVidia did skimp out on the PCB and consequently the VRMs, but the card is still an absolute monster and beats tri-SLI GTX-580 when in Quad-SLI mode. That is quite an achievement IMO. At high resolutions (2560x1600), the Quad-SLI GTx-590 equals or bests the Tri-SLI GTX-580.

Proof: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=925437

The ultimate point is, you guys are way too quick to judge the card. Yes, it could have been as long as the AMD 6990 and had more VRMs to solve the power circuitry issue but let us wait for a few weeks while people are still taking delivery of their cards and see what they can achieve in terms of stable OC's, at stock voltages as well as over-volted.

I will not agree on this. People around the web are reporting that the new driver from nVidia is seriously throttling the 590 at around 550MHz. It will be more interesting to see if the performance goes down. I hope Anandtech has the guts to see if the performance goes down, but I doubt it.

 

[SirPauly]

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20677

The next iteration of this same rumor came to us late yesterday, with the suggestion that perhaps those web release drivers with overclock protection are limiting clock speeds in games to 550MHz, below the 607MHz base clock for the GTX 590, along with the expected drop in performance. Our response was to install the 269.91 drivers and try them for ourselves. After re-running a portion of our test suite, including AvP, Civ V, and F1 2010, we found zero performance differences between the drivers we used in the review and the public 269.91 package. Also, GPU-Z reported a 607MHz clock speed when we had it log clock frequencies while some of our tests were running. Boring, no? But the GTX 590 still works as expected.

More investigations are welcomed and more data!

 

[MrK6]

Less than 1% of the population reading this post will understand its significance. So, why did I bother typing it?

Following the logical progression of the discussion, you're evidently trying to court a niche market. Congratulations! :thumbsup:

 

[Grooveriding]

I will not agree on this. People around the web are reporting that the new driver from nVidia is seriously throttling the 590 at around 550MHz. It will be more interesting to see if the performance goes down. I hope Anandtech has the guts to see if the performance goes down, but I doubt it.

Yes this is unfortunate. Perhaps a bait and switch by nvidia, perhaps not ?

Who knows. Apparently the cards downclock to 550 only in demanding gaming, although that is probably where you would need the extra speed most.

It does kind of certify the cards as useless for overclocking :thumbsdown:

All the cards that fail have this same burnt out component that this user had on his 590 that exploded at stock.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...&postcount=140

How safe is it to compensate for faulty hardware design with software control via drivers ? If someone installs the wrong driver or a beta etc then poof again ? There card fully clocks up and can be overclocked etc and it blows ?

We'll most likely see reviews/reports in the near future of PCB revisions for the 590 fixing its issues. Or it will go as a limited run product and we won't see them at all.

 

[SirPauly]

It's amazing how actual data goes right by some!

 

[Dudler]

So is Vantage and 3dmark11 also "flagged" by OCP? Or is it only OCP kicking in and limiting clock to stock whatever is set in afterburner?

Someone in the thread over at [H] has an overclock set in afterburner, but while running Vantage and 3dmark11 his clocks were reduced to stock.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037039552&postcount=340

OCCp was capped at both stock frequencies and 50% gpu utilisation.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037038950&postcount=328B

 

[SirPauly]

More investigations and data are very welcomed!