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"Official" DFI nF4 Ultra-D / SLI-DR Thread

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Originally posted by: user1234
muhahahahah I got my board to 267 with a 3000+........
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And I am sure we shall all soon hear the excited cheers of overclockers across the world as they get their new Venice 3000+ chips all the way up to 2400mhz with 267 * 9x on the A8N. :roll:
 
no, it was a winchester and 2400 is quite good for a winchester, especially CBBID code which many people, incl DFI owners couldn't get above 240 mhz FSB. I really don't think A8N limits verclocking as it can still do 300 mhz FSB no problem amigo
 
Originally posted by: user1234
no, it was a winchester and 2400 is quite good for a winchester, especially CBBID code which many people, incl DFI owners couldn't get above 240 mhz FSB. I really don't think A8N limits verclocking as it can still do 300 mhz FSB no problem amigo
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Yeah, I know you have a winchester, I was commenting on the new Venice chips coming out where hopes are high that they will clock higher than their Winchester older brothers. 267FSB isn't going to get a 3000+ Venice very far.

As for A8N doing 300mhz no problem, show me one review.

Here's several that say nope (including the one you linked to above... do you even read your own links?):

Anandtech's comments where they say it was "hardly impressive" and couldn't get above 255
(here it is in graph form in case you're having trouble with the big words

Neoseeker's that you linked to above where they can't get above 255

Another that can't get above 255

I'm not trying to downplay the A8N. I happen to like Asus a lot. I'm sure it's a great board. I just want to warn anyone who is hoping to overclock a lower speed A64 to very high speeds that the A8N might be your barrier. But you can still grab a 3500+ or higher and do fine with it, keeping your FSB to 250 or so. And, honestly, I haven't kept up with the research... maybe they've fixed the 255mhz wall in a BIOS revision or something.
 
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: user1234
no, it was a winchester and 2400 is quite good for a winchester, especially CBBID code which many people, incl DFI owners couldn't get above 240 mhz FSB. I really don't think A8N limits verclocking as it can still do 300 mhz FSB no problem amigo
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Yeah, I know you have a winchester, I was commenting on the new Venice chips coming out where hopes are high that they will clock higher than their Winchester older brothers. 267FSB isn't going to get a 3000+ Venice very far.

As for A8N doing 300mhz no problem, show me one review.

Here's several that say nope (including the one you linked to above... do you even read your own links?):

Anandtech's comments where they say it was "hardly impressive" and couldn't get above 255
(here it is in graph form in case you're having trouble with the big words

Neoseeker's that you linked to above where they can't get above 255

Another that can't get above 255

I'm not trying to downplay the A8N. I happen to like Asus a lot. I'm sure it's a great board. I just want to warn anyone who is hoping to overclock a lower speed A64 to very high speeds that the A8N might be your barrier. But you can still grab a 3500+ or higher and do fine with it, keeping your FSB to 250 or so. And, honestly, I haven't kept up with the research... maybe they've fixed the 255mhz wall in a BIOS revision or something.
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but there is no wall at 255 as I could o'clock (100% stable) two winchesters I tried to 267 mhz. And here's a recent review which shows thet got FSB to 320.

http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rid=92314

 
Actually, that review shows 302 as their max, 300 when configured with 2 6800GTs. But your point is still made-- someone appears to have achieved 300fsb on the Asus. I'll have to look through the gigantic Asus A8N thread and see if anyone else has made it that high as well.
 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: bradley
I like that DFI chose to use only Japanese capacitors. Looks like a super quality board, and a really nice layout. But has anyone tried running a PCI video card on a DFI nF4 Ultra-D yet? Because currently the Chaintechs have this problem, and I want to hold off buying a PCI-e card until a summer price drop.
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What kind of capacitors do these DFI boards use? Are they Rubicon?
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Does anyone know?
 
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Actually, that review shows 302 as their max, 300 when configured with 2 6800GTs. But your point is still made-- someone appears to have achieved 300fsb on the Asus. I'll have to look through the gigantic Asus A8N thread and see if anyone else has made it that high as well.
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save you the trouble, lots of people have done 275 and up, even 300 is quite common
 
My experience with Asus A8N-SLI - max o/c I could achieve was to 230MHz HTT after much effort.

With everything else exactly the same apart from the motherboard I can reach 260MHz HTT with my DFI NF4 Ultra.

The Asus still cannot work with 1T timings above 250MHz, either.

AMD 3000+ Winnie ADA3000DIK4B1 CBBID0502APMW
Thermalright XP-90 w/ Vantec Stealth 92mm
260 MHz HTT (CPU = 2340MHz)
DFI Lanparty NF4 Ultra-D
2x512Mb Crucial PC3200 CL3 (CT6464Z40B)
@ 195/380 2.5-3-3-6-11
Gigabyte NX66T128VP (6600GT VIVO -500/1120 default clock)
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum
WD 1200JD 120Gb SATA HD (8Mb cache)
2x 160Gb Seagate 7200.7 SATA HD (8Mb cache)
Liteon 166S DVD (Pri Slave)
NEC 2500A DVDRW (Sec Master)
Liteon 52246S CDRW (Sec Slave)

Hiper Type-R 480W True PSU (24 Pin)
LianLi Case
Dell 1901FP TFT
Trust 5.1 Headphones
MS Intellmouse + Internet Keyboard
 
Originally posted by: user1234
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Actually, that review shows 302 as their max, 300 when configured with 2 6800GTs. But your point is still made-- someone appears to have achieved 300fsb on the Asus. I'll have to look through the gigantic Asus A8N thread and see if anyone else has made it that high as well.
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save you the trouble, lots of people have done 275 and up, even 300 is quite common
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Without links all I read is "blah blah blah".

So, you're telling me that Wesley Fink, a generally well-regarded motherboard reviewer for Anandtech, who likely got a hand-picked sample from Asus, could not get his board above 255mhz, yet you, and "lots of people", had no trouble doing 300mhz?

I guess I'll repeat myself again, in hopes that you actually read it this time. I'm glad you enjoy your board. I'm sure it's a fine board. And, yes, according to all the reviews out there, at exact same FSB * multi settings, it appears the Asus beats the DFI. But people aren't buying the DFI to keep it under 255mhz (or your supposed 267).

So, I'll tell ya what. Why don't you send me one of those 3000+ Winnies so I can show it what life is like above 267 * 9x (if that's what you really have)?
 
i agree completly deadseasquirl. as someone who has actually owned 4 nforce4 motherboards in the last 3 months. (3) sli-dr and (1)a8n-sli. i am shocked to hear that " lots of people have done 275 and up, even 300 is quite common." WTF? WHO? I can speak from my own personal experience that my a8n wouldn't crack 240 at 1t to save its life. other than that i found it to be a great board. i have owned 6 different asus boards and i am runnin 2 6800 ultras by asus, and am very pleased with the company. BUT, the DFI is a GREAT board for overclocking. period.
 
I don't mean to throw gas on a blazing fire but while were in the a8n vs DFI topic, I read in a couple of places that the a8n-e (non-sli) has solved the 250mhz 1T problem and it overclocks good. Someone herehere has it way past 250. Another forum member here, EndGame who also owns a DFI NF4 board, claims he has his Winnie 3200 at 260 X 10 1T, same overclock as his DFI board.

I'm in the market for a new board and can get the a8n-e for $55 canadian (roughly $44 US) cheaper than the DFI ultra-D. I think the price difference isn't justified in my case (and I don't need Firewire).
 
Hey, i must admit i havent looked though all 50+ pages of this forum so it might have already been said but, I have a question about the PSU this board is going to require.
Right now I have a 425 W 12v dual rail PSU with 24 pin connection. do you think that will be enough>?
I plan on running 3-4 fans, 3200+ ath64, sound card, tv card, x800xl, 2 hardrives, and a 1G of pc 3200 ram.

If i do any overclocking it will be moderate at first. nothing BLAZING, but basicly this sysyem is already gunna cost me like 900+ to upgrade and i dont want to blow another 100+ on a new psu.


any help would be great.
 
please don't skrimp on the psu. a high quality psu is as important if not more so than any other component. with that being said i would try the psu you have and see how it works. since it is 24 pin you might be ok. there is alot of info out there on psu with the nforce 4 chipset. i would advise reading that carefully before buing a new psu if you decide you need it.
 
DFI now REQUIRES native 24-pin ATX molex & 480W for all the DFI N4 mobos.

Minimum of +12V@24A for Single Video Card Systems & +12V@30A for Dual Video Card (SLI) Systems.
 
Originally posted by: SilverPenguin
Hey, i must admit i havent looked though all 50+ pages of this forum so it might have already been said but, I have a question about the PSU this board is going to require.
Right now I have a 425 W 12v dual rail PSU with 24 pin connection. do you think that will be enough>?
I plan on running 3-4 fans, 3200+ ath64, sound card, tv card, x800xl, 2 hardrives, and a 1G of pc 3200 ram.

If i do any overclocking it will be moderate at first. nothing BLAZING, but basicly this sysyem is already gunna cost me like 900+ to upgrade and i dont want to blow another 100+ on a new psu.


any help would be great.
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i don't know what brand it is but i would just get the 480 they recommend. it may be overkill but i didn't design the board. if you browse through dfi.street you'll find a large percentage of stability issues are related to insufficient PSU or incompatible ram.

 
Originally posted by: VenuS
DFI now REQUIRES native 24-pin ATX molex & 480W for all the DFI N4 mobos.

Minimum of +12V@24A for Single Video Card Systems & +12V@30A for Dual Video Card (SLI) Systems.
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They REQUIRE 24 pin native? So if I have a ps that came with a 20 to 24 pin adaptor I shouldn't be using it? And 480 is required? Sure that isn't for SLI?

 
Originally posted by: rizorith
Originally posted by: VenuS
DFI now REQUIRES native 24-pin ATX molex & 480W for all the DFI N4 mobos.

Minimum of +12V@24A for Single Video Card Systems & +12V@30A for Dual Video Card (SLI) Systems.
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They REQUIRE 24 pin native? So if I have a ps that came with a 20 to 24 pin adaptor I shouldn't be using it? And 480 is required? Sure that isn't for SLI?
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I will sugest u fast as u can to get 24 pin PSU and yes,at least 480 W PSU.
U may run into instability of the system with the 20 to 24 pin adaptor and
not only when overclcoking.
U see,when u use 20 to 24 pin adaptor ,ur mobo try to pull out more power
off the 20 pins wich may cause instability.Those another 4 pins is actually ground,+3,+5 and +12 V that DFI board needs.

What really important for SLI is the current on the 12 v rail.
For a minimum is the 30 A and best is the 33 A (like 520 W and above PSUs)
For single Video PCi-E system -minimum is 24 A on 12 v rail and best to have 28-30 A.

DFI mobos really hungry for power.
If u'll have powerfull PSU like with 33 A on the 12v rail,in future,when u'll want to run 2x6800 Ultras in SLI u will have no problem at all.

If u'll run 2x6800 Ultras with PSU that gives 24 A on 12 v rail ur PSU will try to supply the power to those cards but it will give less power to other components on the board like chipset,memory etc wich will bring into instability and even crash.
 
well.....SHoooot! so it sounds like i need to slap another 100+ down to build this comp... whats a good psu u would sugest? Im most likly to NEVER eEVER use two 3d cards at once but if its a diff of only like 20-30 doller id rather side with "just in case:"
 
Originally posted by: rise4310
dead, that is one of the finest sigs around btw, i laugh every time i see it. i wish i had seen the tread he used it in, then again maybe not, lol

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Oh, the irony. :roll:

 
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