*OFFICIAL!* College Football Thread 11/29

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

I know that this is the way it is with the current system, but why the fuck should out of conference results have anything to do with a conference tie breaker? That is absolutely retarded. They should be looking at point spread in head to head match ups and common opponent results between the three teams.

 

[thereds]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

What is Tech's quality road win? OU has OSU........or at Washington.

 

[thereds]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

What is Tech's quality road win? OU has OSU........or at Washington.

Unfortunately, the UW game didn't look as bad as it does now when OU originally scheduled it.

Why does Tech need a quality road win if Texas doesn't have one?

 

[hdeck]

polls are out. texas ahead of ou in the ap (which doesn't count to bcs), but ou ahead in coaches.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

What is Tech's quality road win? OU has OSU........or at Washington.

Unfortunately, the UW game didn't look as bad as it does now when OU originally scheduled it.

Why does Tech need a quality road win if Texas doesn't have one?

Because in the head to heads between the three teams, they were the only ones to get BLASTED.

 

[thereds]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

What is Tech's quality road win? OU has OSU........or at Washington.

Unfortunately, the UW game didn't look as bad as it does now when OU originally scheduled it.

Why does Tech need a quality road win if Texas doesn't have one?

Because in the head to heads between the three teams, they were the only ones to get BLASTED.

And they were the only team to beat the team you want to move to the championship game.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: hdeck
polls are out. texas ahead of ou in the ap (which doesn't count to bcs), but ou ahead in coaches.

OU is going to eek by UT because of the computers.

Sagarin has it OU, UT, TTU for the top 3(atleast his poll that counts towards the BCS).

Last week it was UT, someone else, TTU, OU. It looks like OU might be #1 in the computers.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

What is Tech's quality road win? OU has OSU........or at Washington.

Unfortunately, the UW game didn't look as bad as it does now when OU originally scheduled it.

Why does Tech need a quality road win if Texas doesn't have one?

Because in the head to heads between the three teams, they were the only ones to get BLASTED.

OU is 5 and 1 against top 30 teams(2 and 1 against top 10). UT is 3 and 1 against top 30 teams(1 and 1 against top 10). With common opponents in the south + Kansas OU trounces UT in margin of victory. OU has every right to be a head of UT even if they did lose to UT early in the season. At this point in the season OU looks far more impressive than UT.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

What is Tech's quality road win? OU has OSU........or at Washington.

Unfortunately, the UW game didn't look as bad as it does now when OU originally scheduled it.

Why does Tech need a quality road win if Texas doesn't have one?

Because in the head to heads between the three teams, they were the only ones to get BLASTED.

OU is 5 and 1 against top 30 teams(2 and 1 against top 10). UT is 3 and 1 against top 30 teams(1 and 1 against top 10). With common opponents in the south + Kansas OU trounces UT in margin of victory. OU has every right to be a head of UT even if they did lose to UT early in the season. At this point in the season OU looks far more impressive than UT.

lulz - The BCS. Where every game matters, unless it happened in the middle of the season!

The Big 12 should just put OU and UT in the championship game.

 

[Syringer]

What time do the BCS rankings come out?

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
When you have a 3 way tie like this you have to throw out the head to head games and look at their body of work outside those games.

When you consider OU's incredibly consistent and impressive offensive output (4 straight games of 60+ points to close out the season, only 4 games under 50 points, and their lowest output is 35 points...) coupled with a much more impressive non conference resume - beating TCU (10-2) and Big East champion and BCS bowl bound Cincinnati (10-2) - I think most will agree that OU is the best of the 3 teams.

The difference is that UT beat OU on a neutral field.

Playing at home is a big advantage. TTU and OU both got their tying wins at home.

Then let's get TT to the championship game. They did beat Texas who beat OU on a neutral field.

Besides, what is Texas's quality road win this year?

What is Tech's quality road win? OU has OSU........or at Washington.

Unfortunately, the UW game didn't look as bad as it does now when OU originally scheduled it.

Why does Tech need a quality road win if Texas doesn't have one?

Because in the head to heads between the three teams, they were the only ones to get BLASTED.

OU is 5 and 1 against top 30 teams(2 and 1 against top 10). UT is 3 and 1 against top 30 teams(1 and 1 against top 10). With common opponents in the south + Kansas OU trounces UT in margin of victory. OU has every right to be a head of UT even if they did lose to UT early in the season. At this point in the season OU looks far more impressive than UT.

lulz

The Big 12 should just put OU and UT in the championship game.

If you look at the rankings. OU has beaten 4 top 15 teams. Tech, OSU, TCU, and Cincy.
If you look at the rankings. UT has been 2 top 15 teams. OSU and OU.

Texas lost to Tech on the road. OU slaughtered Tech at home.
Texas ekked by OSU at home. OU was unstoppable at OSU.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Syringer
What time do the BCS rankings come out?

6:15pm central

But if the Harris released earlier like they usually do, it should be known. OU has the Coaches and the computers. UT would have to be ahead substaintially in the Harris.

 

[ElFenix]

common opponent point spread is stupid because weather factors into it. bad weather means low scoring games. also you'd force everyone into quick strike no huddle offenses like ou, instead of ball control, eat the clock offenses like alabama.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
common opponent point spread is stupid because weather factors into it. bad weather means low scoring games. also you'd force everyone into quick strike no huddle offenses like ou, instead of ball control, eat the clock offenses like alabama.

Then it comes down to the comouters. Because of Mizzou's loss to Kansas, UT will lose a little bit more in the computers than originally expected. The computers use the end of season rankings and well OU's opponents have fared better than UTs.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: ElFenix
common opponent point spread is stupid because weather factors into it. bad weather means low scoring games. also you'd force everyone into quick strike no huddle offenses like ou, instead of ball control, eat the clock offenses like alabama.

Then it comes down to the comouters. Because of Mizzou's loss to Kansas, UT will lose a little bit more in the computers than originally expected. The computers use the end of season rankings and well OU's opponents have fared better than UTs.

common opp point spread also encourages running up the score. might as well just put in the old computer ratings if that's a tie breaker. UT left points on the field against a&m and kansas.

i was pissed when mizzou lost yesterday.


i wonder whether any of the computers considers in what order the opponents were played?

 

[Queasy]

Non-BCS polling news that is interesting - Lane Kifin will be introduced as Tennessee's new coach tomorrow and he is bringing his father, Tampa Bay Bucs defensive co-ordinator Monte Kiffin, with him.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Non-BCS polling news that is interesting - Lane Kifin will be introduced as Tennessee's new coach tomorrow and he is bringing his father, Tampa Bay Bucs defensive co-ordinator Monte Kiffin, with him.

:thumbsup: for Lane Kiffin. He's a former Fresno State guy.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16

Originally posted by: venkman

Originally posted by: DukeFan21
"Penn State wants: Oregon to beat Oregon State (better Rose Bowl matchup). To clear hurdles to the BCS title game, the Lions want Auburn to beat Alabama, Florida State to beat Florida, Oklahoma State to beat Oklahoma, Notre Dame to beat USC and Baylor to beat Texas Tech."

That's what I'll be pulling for all day

too bad penn state couldn't just beat a crappy Iowa team.

Crappy = 8-4 with four losses by a combined 12 points to three ranked teams?

The Illini loss was bad but otherwise I'd say Iowa checks out pretty well.

Odd definition of crappy.

saragin points model has iowa ranked 11th.

top 15 are:

usc
florida
OU
UT
penn
alabama
tt
ohio
missouri
tcu
iowa
boise
miss
ok state
utah

personally, i think usc florida would be a great NC game

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Syringer
What time do the BCS rankings come out?

6:15pm central

But if the Harris released earlier like they usually do, it should be known. OU has the Coaches and the computers. UT would have to be ahead substaintially in the Harris.

if mizzou beats ou in the big xii championship, would that allow any hope for texas to make the title game?

 

[GeneValgene]

oh snap....texas over ou in the harris interactive poll...it's going to be close

stupid missouri had to lose...screwed over texas chances

 

[Syringer]

Is Florida pretty much guaranteed a top 2 spot if they handle Alabama?

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Is Florida pretty much guaranteed a top 2 spot if they handle Alabama?

yep...definitely. they will go to the national title game for sure if they beat alabama

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Is Florida pretty much guaranteed a top 2 spot if they handle Alabama?

Yes. At this point the BCS Championship game will be the SEC Championship game winner vs Big 12 South rep (if they win) or USC or perhaps even Texas.

It's screwed up...as usual.