OFFICIAL ***BOSTON RED SOX vs. OAKLAND A'S*** Division Series Trash Talking Thread

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Led Zeppelin

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They're just running into some hot pitching right now in Hudson and Zito. Hopefully Ted Lilly will return to true form from when he was with the Yankees and the Sox will have a little batting practice of him Saturday night at Fenway. This is depressing though, having the best offensive team to ever walk onto a baseball diamond and not being able to get the clutch hits. The pitching really hasn't been that bad for the most part.
 

Red Dawn

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having the best offensive team to ever walk onto a baseball diamond
LOL Yeah right
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PlatinumGold

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A's, Cubs. Red Sox, Braves.

Lots of parrallels between those two series.

A's and Cubs do it with GREAT Starting pitching. Red Sox and Braves do it wth Great hitting.

 

BigSmooth

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Huzzah, 2-0 Oakland... :D It's not over yet but all the "experts" were giving Oakland no chance in this series. To them, I say "GET BENT!"
 

thatsright

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Boy, I wish I was A's fan, as being a Sox fan, you need a handful of Prozac before AND after each game.

I wish I was a A's fan, well almost.....................
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: freesia39
i caught like only a bit of the game when i went home for lunch, but in the freaking amount of time it took me to get back (10 mins) the a's scored four more times! AUGH!

i need a tv or radio at work. :(

If you can get to ESPN's site from work you can use their cool Gamecast feature, it's a live pitch by pitch account.

Gamecast

Click on the small Gamecast link under the line score.
 

tweekah

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To give credit where it is due, The year that the A's had Johnny Damon, he was the only who did his job in the postseason. It's too bad that he has to be on the losing end again!

GO A's
 

Lager

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Guys... don't give up. These are the same team that blew a 2-0 lead to Yankees.

Let's win both games in Fenway and send them back to Oakland for game 5. LOL
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Might as well start it up now.
Come Wednesday, Sox will begin the domination to the World Series!

who won weds?

never mind,Here..

BOS 1, OAK 5
Athletics lead series, 2-0


Todd Walker makes a bad throw to first for an error that allowed two runs to score in the second inning. (Mark J. Terrill/AP)



Game 2 wrapup: OAK 5, BOS 1
OAKLAND -- Thanks to the schedule, the Red Sox will have their backs against airplane seats Thursday evening instead of walls.

Still, all the relevant cliches applied after a nightmarish second inning led directly to a 5-1 loss in Game 2 against the A's, putting the Red Sox on the brink of elimination.

The Red Sox are headed home. They just hope it's not their last road trip of the season.

The trait the Red Sox have been most proud of this season is their resilience. Even the most devastating losses and situations haven't fazed them, and the Sox will test that resilience, heart and character to the limit now.





It ain't over...



The A's became the 22nd team in Division Series history to take a 2-0 lead on Thursday. In the previous 21 series, teams that led 2-0 won 18 times. Only three times has a team trailing 0-2 come back to win:


Series winner Year Opponent
Yankees 2001 Athletics
Red Sox 1999 Indians
Mariners 1995 Yankees


In the history of the five-game League Championship Series (1969-1984), 22 teams have jumped out to a 2-0 lead. Of those 22, 19 have gone on to win the series. The only teams to come back from 0-2 deficits were:


Series winner Year Opponent
Padres 1984 Cubs
Brewers 1982 Angels
Dodgers 1981 Astros









Trailing, 2-0, in this best-of-five series, the Sox are down to their last out going into Game 3, just as they were after losing the first two in Cleveland in the 1999 Division Series.

Any Sox fan worth his chowdah knows how that turned out. The Sox are hoping for similar magic four years later.

The Sox are hoping to become the fourth team in the nine-year history of the Division Series to come back from an 0-2 deficit. The last team to lose a 2-0 lead were the 2001 A's, who went down to defeat after taking the first two games at Yankee Stadium.

The 1995 Mariners rallied back from 0-2 to beat the Yankees in an epic Game 5. And then there were those '99 Sox, who rode six no-hit innings out of the bullpen from ace Pedro Martinez in the clincher to cap an unlikely comeback.

More relevant in the here and now is that the Red Sox have been a better team all year at Fenway Park than on the road. Their 53-28 record at home was second only to the A's in the American League.

Maybe the friendly confines of Fenway Park is precisely what the Sox need to get their bats revved up again.

In this one, a sloppy second inning led to five Oakland runs, and the Sox never recovered.

The Red Sox endured a devastating bottom of the second inning. Jose Guillen drew a one-out walk and then moved to second on a passed ball. Ramon Hernandez, the hero of Game 1, broke the scoreless tie with an RBI single to right.

Things became unglued after that. Wakefield hit Jermaine Dye and then surrendered a two-run double to Eric Byrnes that sailed over the head of left fielder Manny Ramirez and on to the warning track.

Already down 3-0, second baseman Todd Walker bobbled what should have been an inning-ending grounder by Eric Chavez and then threw wildly to first. The error brought two runs home and gave the A's a 5-0 lead.

The Sox tried to get right off the mat in the top of the third. Doug Mirabelli registered his team's first hit off Zito, lacing a one-out double to left. Johnny Damon followed with an RBI double up the alley in right-center.

Things got even more promising when Nomar Garciaparra walked. But Walker grounded to first and Manny Ramirez flew to left, ending the threat.

Wakefield (six innings, four hits, three earned runs) settled down after the second, keeping the deficit at four runs entering the seventh.

But Zito was getting filthier as the game progressed. He struck out the side in the fourth and then punched out the first two batters he faced in the fifth.

Zito's seven dominant innings (one run, nine strikeouts) were simply too much for the Sox to overcome.

Ian Browne is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

 

Lager

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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Might as well start it up now.
Come Wednesday, Sox will begin the domination to the World Series!

who won weds?

A's. But only because Kim blew a game we should of won. That idiot blew a game that Pedro pitched his heart out on. 130 pitches and left winning the game. Then Kim comes in, puts two on on 15 pitches. :| Then Ambree comes in and gives up the tying run with a single.

Our bullpen sucks. Now Pedro will have to go game four if we win Game 3.
 

cavemanmoron

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rooting for a Cubs-Red Sox World Series


BY JIM REINEKING
FOXSports.com
Oct. 1, 2003 4:56 p.m.


The quest for the World Series is on, and we'd like to take this moment to declare that our preferred World Series matchup would include both the Boston Red Sox and Chicago Cubs.
(For the curious of mind, the anti-preferred World Series matchup would be Yankees vs. Braves).

This matchup appears very unlikely given that the Cubs haven't been to the World Series since World War II, and the Red Sox are destined to lose to the Yankees somewhere along the line. Also, it's been well-documented over the years that the aforementioned preferred World Series teams are cursed.

Babe Ruth, formerly with the Red Sox, hit his most famous called-shot home run against the Cubs (World Series, circa 1932) and can be linked to the postseason failures of both teams. The goat not allowed to enter Wrigley Field back in the day when there were goats living inside Chicago proper, is only haunting the Cubs. However, if the Cubs and Red Sox both make it to the World Series, expect there to be plenty of goat references.
 

Red Dawn

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These are the same team that blew a 2-0 lead to Yankees
LOL this Red Sux team can't even hold a candle to that Yankees team. For example that Yankee team had 3 good pitchers compared to 1 for the Sux and that Yankees team had a top notch closer compared to the Chinese Fire Drill the Sux call a Bullpen. The Sux need to go out and get another quality starter and a top of the line closer if they want to win a WS. They also need to more Damon to right field and get a good hitting Center Fielder who has a decent throwing arm unlike the noodle Damon has.

Boston has the makings of a Championship team, they are just missing a few key components.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: thatsright
This is really getting me Depressed.

MAN THEY NEED TO TRADE that Fat Baaastard Manny. He's the biggest whiner, and we pay this fat load $16Mil a year for nothing. It would be sooo worth it to trade him for one or two great relievers. When he's on the bases, he is like a damn turtle, just waiting to get thrown out..........

GOD I can't stand him.

Billy Wagner to the Sox next year anyone? How sweet would that be, trade Manny for Wagner and Biggio, since we'll probably lose Walker to free agency.

 

thatsright

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: thatsright
This is really getting me Depressed.

MAN THEY NEED TO TRADE that Fat Baaastard Manny. He's the biggest whiner, and we pay this fat load $16Mil a year for nothing. It would be sooo worth it to trade him for one or two great relievers. When he's on the bases, he is like a damn turtle, just waiting to get thrown out..........

GOD I can't stand him.

Billy Wagner to the Sox next year anyone? How sweet would that be, trade Manny for Wagner and Biggio, since we'll probably lose Walker to free agency.

Anyone know of any relief pitchers that are actually good/great, that have their contract up at the end of this 2003 Season? Think of how much the Sox could 'buy' if they off-load that Fat Baaastard Manny to another team and thereby free up $16Mil! Thats at least 3 or 4 great relief pitchers we could buy for one year. And honestly, they don't have to be supa-star, just competent so Sox fans don't get that sinking feeling if were only up by 1 or 2 runs as we enter the 9th inning.....

Well nuff said, for now. I get more and more disgusted whenever I think about the Sox bullpen.

 

woodman1999

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Being a Red Sox fan, I am seriously depressed at these results. One thing that keeps me going is knowing that the Sox have come back from two down before (vs. Cleveland in '99). But how can anyone really be surprised. We knew the bullpen was weak from the beginning, and Kim is as much to blame as Little for the first demoralizing game. What I can't understand is why Timilin was taken out. You can't remove someone who just pitched a 1-2-3 inning, it just doesn't make sense. So what if Kim is the alleged closer. This team hasn't had an official closer since the season began. Also, I sitll wonder why they got B.K. Kim. He ahsn't exactly had a stellar postseason and so fra this has come true. Especially with his record against the Yank-me's. Oh well, we shall see, I think Boston can win two in Fenway, but the fifth game is going to be mighty tough.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: woodman1999
Being a Red Sox fan, I am seriously depressed at these results. One thing that keeps me going is knowing that the Sox have come back from two down before (vs. Cleveland in '99). But how can anyone really be surprised. We knew the bullpen was weak from the beginning, and Kim is as much to blame as Little for the first demoralizing game. What I can't understand is why Timilin was taken out. You can't remove someone who just pitched a 1-2-3 inning, it just doesn't make sense. So what if Kim is the alleged closer. This team hasn't had an official closer since the season began. Also, I sitll wonder why they got B.K. Kim. He ahsn't exactly had a stellar postseason and so fra this has come true. Especially with his record against the Yank-me's. Oh well, we shall see, I think Boston can win two in Fenway, but the fifth game is going to be mighty tough.

If the Sox were to win 3 in a row their pitching staff would be so decimated that they'd be push overs in the ALCS. Sorry but this is not the Red Sox Year
 

Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: lager
Pedro going Game 5 if necessary

Good move Grady, using Pedro for game 4 would be too much after that 130 pitch count.

Little also announced that Damian Jackson will start at second base Saturday, with Gabe Kapler in right field. That leaves Todd Walker and Trot Nixon on the bench.

WTF, why is Damian Jackson starting. Unless Walker is injured, I really don't see the logic in this. Jackson is no better a fielder than Walker is, and he can't hit to save his life. I think Grady's wearing his hat a bit too tight around his head.
 

Led Zeppelin

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Does anyone else sense a serious ass-whooping coming to the A's tonight? I predict a 17-4 Sox victory.

btw, go Cubs!
 

m2kewl

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Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Does anyone else sense a serious ass-whooping coming to the A's tonight?

no, i like to sense a serious broom sweeping coming from the A's tonight ;)

realistically , A's may lose this one b/c Lilly isn't the sharpest tool in the shed...:(
 

Lager

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Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Originally posted by: lager
Pedro going Game 5 if necessary

Good move Grady, using Pedro for game 4 would be too much after that 130 pitch count.

Little also announced that Damian Jackson will start at second base Saturday, with Gabe Kapler in right field. That leaves Todd Walker and Trot Nixon on the bench.

WTF, why is Damian Jackson starting. Unless Walker is injured, I really don't see the logic in this. Jackson is no better a fielder than Walker is, and he can't hit to save his life. I think Grady's wearing his hat a bit too tight around his head.

Lilly is a left handed pitcher, both Walker and Nixon are left handed hitters.
 

Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: lager
Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Originally posted by: lager
Pedro going Game 5 if necessary

Good move Grady, using Pedro for game 4 would be too much after that 130 pitch count.

Little also announced that Damian Jackson will start at second base Saturday, with Gabe Kapler in right field. That leaves Todd Walker and Trot Nixon on the bench.

WTF, why is Damian Jackson starting. Unless Walker is injured, I really don't see the logic in this. Jackson is no better a fielder than Walker is, and he can't hit to save his life. I think Grady's wearing his hat a bit too tight around his head.

Lilly is a left handed pitcher, both Walker and Nixon are left handed hitters.

Ahhh, I forgot Lilly was a lefty, makes sense I suppose in that aspect in theory, but both Nixon and Walker are much better with the bat than Jackson and Kapler, even against lefty's. I'd keep the lineup in tact.