OFFICIAL ***BOSTON RED SOX vs. OAKLAND A'S*** Division Series Trash Talking Thread

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: lager

Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Gee, nobody saw that coming. Pedro pitches his heart out, and Kim can't open his eyes wide enough to get 3 damn outs without hitting
12 guys in the process.

Is it possible for Grady Little to keep Kim locked up in the bullpen for the rest of the series??

Man, wtf are u talking about? Kim didn't blow the game, EMBREE did. Did you even watch the game??? He got Hernandez to fly out to start the inning, had a walk, and then hit Singleton with an inside slider that Singleton SWUNG INTO. Little went out to argue but to no avail, the umps said he was checking his swing... it could have happened to anyone, and Kim was being agressive by pitching the inside of the plate. Next he proceeds to throw TWO 96MPH Sinkers IN A ROW (nasty, nasty stuff for someone who has been scouted to throw 93 tops) and throws a perfect breaking ball(80MPH) to strike out Ellis. He had one walk and a freak hit batter, so what?? Pedro walked 4 in the game.

If I was Grady, I would have left Kim in to face Durazo, b/c Durazo doesn't hit inside hard stuff well and Kim was just warming up... look at Durazo's hit, it was outside fastball off Embree laced the other way. Guaranteed he would have grounded out off of Kim's nasty sinkerball on the inside corner any day of the week. The problem with Kim is, he likes to throw that high riser when all he really has to do to get people out is use his low hard stuff to induce groundballs. Noone can touch it if he spots it properly, but he tries too hard and wants to strike people out instead of letting his infield help him like D.Lowe... It all comes from inexperience for Kim, he's only 24 and has some of the nastiest pitches in the Majors when it comes to stuff. He just needs to realize that you can't strike everyone out all the time.

All in all, I can understand why Grady let Embree try and get Durazo out, b/c IF Kim didn't get him out it would be mentally tough on a young guy like BK and all the blame would be on him. This way, Embree takes all of the blame, but he can handle it b/c he's a grisled vet. Embree just blew it.

All I know is that if Kim cant take the heat of giving up the potential tying run, then he need to stop closing and become a quilter ( although he has repeatedly told people he wants to start, but I guess the Red Sox want to make sure that he has the chance to lose EVERY game by closing, err rather prolonging in the case of game one)

BTW, how in the WORLD could you say Durazo would have grounded out against Kim? Are you saying that this is Little's fault?

 

[gleong]

damn it. I (and lots of others i'm sure) feel like sh!t today at work. I'm not going to get much done. It was worth it tho, damn good game.

Go A's!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: lager

Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Gee, nobody saw that coming. Pedro pitches his heart out, and Kim can't open his eyes wide enough to get 3 damn outs without hitting
12 guys in the process.

Is it possible for Grady Little to keep Kim locked up in the bullpen for the rest of the series??

Man, wtf are u talking about? Kim didn't blow the game, EMBREE did. Did you even watch the game??? He got Hernandez to fly out to start the inning, had a walk, and then hit Singleton with an inside slider that Singleton SWUNG INTO. Little went out to argue but to no avail, the umps said he was checking his swing... it could have happened to anyone, and Kim was being agressive by pitching the inside of the plate. Next he proceeds to throw TWO 96MPH Sinkers IN A ROW (nasty, nasty stuff for someone who has been scouted to throw 93 tops) and throws a perfect breaking ball(80MPH) to strike out Ellis. He had one walk and a freak hit batter, so what?? Pedro walked 4 in the game.

If I was Grady, I would have left Kim in to face Durazo, b/c Durazo doesn't hit inside hard stuff well and Kim was just warming up... look at Durazo's hit, it was outside fastball off Embree laced the other way. Guaranteed he would have grounded out off of Kim's nasty sinkerball on the inside corner any day of the week. The problem with Kim is, he likes to throw that high riser when all he really has to do to get people out is use his low hard stuff to induce groundballs. Noone can touch it if he spots it properly, but he tries too hard and wants to strike people out instead of letting his infield help him like D.Lowe... It all comes from inexperience for Kim, he's only 24 and has some of the nastiest pitches in the Majors when it comes to stuff. He just needs to realize that you can't strike everyone out all the time.

All in all, I can understand why Grady let Embree try and get Durazo out, b/c IF Kim didn't get him out it would be mentally tough on a young guy like BK and all the blame would be on him. This way, Embree takes all of the blame, but he can handle it b/c he's a grisled vet. Embree just blew it.

All I know is that if Kim cant take the heat of giving up the potential tying run, then he need to stop closing and become a quilter ( although he has repeatedly told people he wants to start, but I guess the Red Sox want to make sure that he has the chance to lose EVERY game by closing, err rather prolonging in the case of game one)

BTW, how in the WORLD could you say Durazo would have grounded out against Kim? Are you saying that this is Little's fault?

Kim was pitching fine, so he walked a batter and one swung into a pitch. So what? Obviously the pitch must have been good if it induced the hitter to start his swing so much that he didn't have time to get out of the way.

Durazo was incredibly tough last night, I'd say he was the hardest man in the lineup to get out... so no, I'm not ASSUMING that Kim would have gotten him out, of course not. I'm quoting facts and putting one and one together: Durazo doesn't hit hard inside stuff well, he's a lefty, and Kim's hard slider runs in on the hands of lefties. Kim also throws a nasty sinkerball (96 on the radar as I mentioned before) so it's nearly impossible to lift when he's throwing it how he wants. 9 times out of 10, he will get a groundout with it... so if he kept nailing that inside corner with hard stuff, Durazo would have no choice but to swing. Only the man upstairs knows what would happen then.

BTW did anyone see Harden throw that pitch over the catcher's head? That was hilarious... the announcers said, "I don't think the A's are making a very good choice bringing in someone this young to pitch..." One more inning and the Sox would have gotten to him... Hernandez bailed him out on a "Gee mom look what I found" blind s_t_ab(stupid filter) at a Gabe Kapler one hop screamer down the third base line with Manny on second, and then proceeded to beat Manny in a foot race for the force out at third... I wish they would have showed a replay of how Manny reacted (if he was running with 2 outs or if he hesitated). I can't wait till we trade him (unless he wins the WS for us).

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: lager

Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Gee, nobody saw that coming. Pedro pitches his heart out, and Kim can't open his eyes wide enough to get 3 damn outs without hitting
12 guys in the process.

Is it possible for Grady Little to keep Kim locked up in the bullpen for the rest of the series??

Man, wtf are u talking about? Kim didn't blow the game, EMBREE did. Did you even watch the game??? He got Hernandez to fly out to start the inning, had a walk, and then hit Singleton with an inside slider that Singleton SWUNG INTO. Little went out to argue but to no avail, the umps said he was checking his swing... it could have happened to anyone, and Kim was being agressive by pitching the inside of the plate. Next he proceeds to throw TWO 96MPH Sinkers IN A ROW (nasty, nasty stuff for someone who has been scouted to throw 93 tops) and throws a perfect breaking ball(80MPH) to strike out Ellis. He had one walk and a freak hit batter, so what?? Pedro walked 4 in the game.

If I was Grady, I would have left Kim in to face Durazo, b/c Durazo doesn't hit inside hard stuff well and Kim was just warming up... look at Durazo's hit, it was outside fastball off Embree laced the other way. Guaranteed he would have grounded out off of Kim's nasty sinkerball on the inside corner any day of the week. The problem with Kim is, he likes to throw that high riser when all he really has to do to get people out is use his low hard stuff to induce groundballs. Noone can touch it if he spots it properly, but he tries too hard and wants to strike people out instead of letting his infield help him like D.Lowe... It all comes from inexperience for Kim, he's only 24 and has some of the nastiest pitches in the Majors when it comes to stuff. He just needs to realize that you can't strike everyone out all the time.

All in all, I can understand why Grady let Embree try and get Durazo out, b/c IF Kim didn't get him out it would be mentally tough on a young guy like BK and all the blame would be on him. This way, Embree takes all of the blame, but he can handle it b/c he's a grisled vet. Embree just blew it.

All I know is that if Kim cant take the heat of giving up the potential tying run, then he need to stop closing and become a quilter ( although he has repeatedly told people he wants to start, but I guess the Red Sox want to make sure that he has the chance to lose EVERY game by closing, err rather prolonging in the case of game one)

BTW, how in the WORLD could you say Durazo would have grounded out against Kim? Are you saying that this is Little's fault?

Kim was pitching fine, so he walked a batter and one swung into a pitch. So what? Obviously the pitch must have been good if it induced the hitter to start his swing so much that he didn't have time to get out of the way.

Durazo was incredibly tough last night, I'd say he was the hardest man in the lineup to get out... so no, I'm not ASSUMING that Kim would have gotten him out, of course not. I'm quoting facts and putting one and one together: Durazo doesn't hit hard inside stuff well, he's a lefty, and Kim's hard slider runs in on the hands of lefties. Kim also throws a nasty sinkerball (96 on the radar as I mentioned before) so it's nearly impossible to lift when he's throwing it how he wants. 9 times out of 10, he will get a groundout with it... so if he kept nailing that inside corner with hard stuff, Durazo would have no choice but to swing. Only the man upstairs knows what would happen then.

BTW did anyone see Harden throw that pitch over the catcher's head? That was hilarious... the announcers said, "I don't think the A's are making a very good choice bringing in someone this young to pitch..." One more inning and the Sox would have gotten to him... Hernandez bailed him out on a "Gee mom look what I found" blind s_t_ab(stupid filter) at a Gabe Kapler one hop screamer down the third base line with Manny on second, and then proceeded to beat Manny in a foot race for the force out at third... I wish they would have showed a replay of how Manny reacted (if he was running with 2 outs or if he hesitated). I can't wait till we trade him (unless he wins the WS for us).

Harden might have been a little wild, but he was throwing 99 and he did not give up any runs. Not saying I thought it was a great decision at the time, but it worked out. BTW, Chavez is the A's 3B.

All I can say is that Hernandez laying down that bunt is one of the best moments for an A's fan in years. My gf is a Sox fan and she wasn't too happy about me jumping around gleefully. :beer:

 

[gleong]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

BTW did anyone see Harden throw that pitch over the catcher's head? That was hilarious... the announcers said, "I don't think the A's are making a very good choice bringing in someone this young to pitch..." One more inning and the Sox would have gotten to him... Hernandez bailed him out on a "Gee mom look what I found" blind s_t_ab(stupid filter) at a Gabe Kapler one hop screamer down the third base line with Manny on second, and then proceeded to beat Manny in a foot race for the force out at third... I wish they would have showed a replay of how Manny reacted (if he was running with 2 outs or if he hesitated). I can't wait till we trade him (unless he wins the WS for us).

Actually, they did show a reply of Manny. It looked like he was trying to make a wide turn at 3rd, preparing to run home, until he saw Chavez come up with the ball. If he sprinted straight for 3rd, he probably would have made it. Can't really blame him tho, that was a great play by Chavey.

And yea, I did wonder why they put Harden in. He has control problems. Risky! Can't wait for him to get some more experience under his belt...some of his pitches are just nasty.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: BigSmooth

Harden might have been a little wild, but he was throwing 99 and he did not give up any runs. Not saying I thought it was a great decision at the time, but it worked out. BTW, Chavez is the A's 3B.

All I can say is that Hernandez laying down that bunt is one of the best moments for an A's fan in years. My gf is a Sox fan and she wasn't too happy about me jumping around gleefully. :beer:

Yup, you're right it was Chavez, I'm a little slow on 4 hours sleep :disgust: On the flipside, it was probably one of the best games of the year for any baseball fan.

Yeah, Harden was throwing some straight heat although he was wild. Oritiz tried to turn on a 98mph inside heater and everyone was like, wtf are u doing? U can't turn on 93mph inside pitches from Hudson let alone that. He needs to be more patient at the plate today, 2/3 of those pitches Harden threw were inside. Good scouting on the A's part, just as the Twins shut down Giambi by throwing him inside heat.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: lager

Originally posted by: LedZeppelin
Gee, nobody saw that coming. Pedro pitches his heart out, and Kim can't open his eyes wide enough to get 3 damn outs without hitting
12 guys in the process.

Is it possible for Grady Little to keep Kim locked up in the bullpen for the rest of the series??

Man, wtf are u talking about? Kim didn't blow the game, EMBREE did. Did you even watch the game??? He got Hernandez to fly out to start the inning, had a walk, and then hit Singleton with an inside slider that Singleton SWUNG INTO. Little went out to argue but to no avail, the umps said he was checking his swing... it could have happened to anyone, and Kim was being agressive by pitching the inside of the plate. Next he proceeds to throw TWO 96MPH Sinkers IN A ROW (nasty, nasty stuff for someone who has been scouted to throw 93 tops) and throws a perfect breaking ball(80MPH) to strike out Ellis. He had one walk and a freak hit batter, so what?? Pedro walked 4 in the game.

If I was Grady, I would have left Kim in to face Durazo, b/c Durazo doesn't hit inside hard stuff well and Kim was just warming up... look at Durazo's hit, it was outside fastball off Embree laced the other way. Guaranteed he would have grounded out off of Kim's nasty sinkerball on the inside corner any day of the week. The problem with Kim is, he likes to throw that high riser when all he really has to do to get people out is use his low hard stuff to induce groundballs. Noone can touch it if he spots it properly, but he tries too hard and wants to strike people out instead of letting his infield help him like D.Lowe... It all comes from inexperience for Kim, he's only 24 and has some of the nastiest pitches in the Majors when it comes to stuff. He just needs to realize that you can't strike everyone out all the time.

All in all, I can understand why Grady let Embree try and get Durazo out, b/c IF Kim didn't get him out it would be mentally tough on a young guy like BK and all the blame would be on him. This way, Embree takes all of the blame, but he can handle it b/c he's a grisled vet. Embree just blew it.

All I know is that if Kim cant take the heat of giving up the potential tying run, then he need to stop closing and become a quilter ( although he has repeatedly told people he wants to start, but I guess the Red Sox want to make sure that he has the chance to lose EVERY game by closing, err rather prolonging in the case of game one)

BTW, how in the WORLD could you say Durazo would have grounded out against Kim? Are you saying that this is Little's fault?

Kim was pitching fine, so he walked a batter and one swung into a pitch. So what? Obviously the pitch must have been good if it induced the hitter to start his swing so much that he didn't have time to get out of the way.

Durazo was incredibly tough last night, I'd say he was the hardest man in the lineup to get out... so no, I'm not ASSUMING that Kim would have gotten him out, of course not. I'm quoting facts and putting one and one together: Durazo doesn't hit hard inside stuff well, he's a lefty, and Kim's hard slider runs in on the hands of lefties. Kim also throws a nasty sinkerball (96 on the radar as I mentioned before) so it's nearly impossible to lift when he's throwing it how he wants. 9 times out of 10, he will get a groundout with it... so if he kept nailing that inside corner with hard stuff, Durazo would have no choice but to swing. Only the man upstairs knows what would happen then.

BTW did anyone see Harden throw that pitch over the catcher's head? That was hilarious... the announcers said, "I don't think the A's are making a very good choice bringing in someone this young to pitch..." One more inning and the Sox would have gotten to him... Hernandez bailed him out on a "Gee mom look what I found" blind s_t_ab(stupid filter) at a Gabe Kapler one hop screamer down the third base line with Manny on second, and then proceeded to beat Manny in a foot race for the force out at third... I wish they would have showed a replay of how Manny reacted (if he was running with 2 outs or if he hesitated). I can't wait till we trade him (unless he wins the WS for us).

I still think this is Kim's fault, for the most part. Let's not forget the Sox had the bases loaded twice, and couldn't capitalize. I don't know how many men they left on base, but is was a $hitload. Kim is our closer for God's sakes, he should be able to get three relatively easy outs (against their 7/8/9 batters mind you) without making it a chore every single time. Let's just hope Wake has his good stuff today and can last at least 7 to 8 innings.

 

[Spooner]

It's okay, the Sox will be angry and hitting today at 4.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Spooner
It's okay, the Sox will be angry and hitting today at 4.

Hell yeah, they have nothing to be ashamed about. They played their hearts out.

On a sidenote, did anyone hear Kevin Millar yell : FVCK!!! in the dugout REALLY LOUD on national TV? This was in extra innings when he flied out... thank goodness that this was a late night game...

 

[Red Dawn]

Let's just hope Wake has his good stuff today and can last at least 7 to 8 innings.

How much trouble would the Sox be in if they A's get to him early?

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Let's just hope Wake has his good stuff today and can last at least 7 to 8 innings.

How much trouble would the Sox be in if they A's get to him early?

Lots. If they get to him early, expect to see John Burkett for the long relief. Don't even want to think about that.

 

[thawolfman]

Originally posted by: LedZeppelin

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Let's just hope Wake has his good stuff today and can last at least 7 to 8 innings.

How much trouble would the Sox be in if they A's get to him early?

Lots. If they get to him early, expect to see John Burkett for the long relief. Don't even want to think about that.

*shudder*

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Spooner
It's okay, the Sox will be angry and hitting today at 4.

Hell yeah, they have nothing to be ashamed about. They played their hearts out.

On a sidenote, did anyone hear Kevin Millar yell : FVCK!!! in the dugout REALLY LOUD on national TV? This was in extra innings when he flied out... thank goodness that this was a late night game...

lol .. i was joking with my friend that i wanted to report it to the FCC. Get ESPN docked some cash.

 

[render]

0-5

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: LedZeppelin

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Let's just hope Wake has his good stuff today and can last at least 7 to 8 innings.

How much trouble would the Sox be in if they A's get to him early?

Lots. If they get to him early, expect to see John Burkett for the long relief. Don't even want to think about that.

getting roughed up in 2nd..

 

[gleong]

5-0 A's!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Now batting #3 Babe Ruth!!!! Bwuahahahaha!

 

[dman]

Originally posted by: render
0-5

Pressure's getting to them. Can't have throwing errors like that... still early in the game though plenty of time to come back--but it ain't going to be easy! Looks like not so much Wake's fault at this point, they probably should keep him in, but, I'm not watching just looking at summary stuff on Yahoo so hard to say.

 

[shopbruin]

i caught like only a bit of the game when i went home for lunch, but in the freaking amount of time it took me to get back (10 mins) the a's scored four more times! AUGH!

i need a tv or radio at work.

 

[Toasthead]

3 more outs...wait make that 2 more!

Make that 1 more!!!


edit: THATS IT!!!! 2 games to ZERO lead!!!

GO A's!!!!!!

 

[DogFromDuckhunt]

Woooo! Go A's!

 

[shopbruin]

YAY A'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gleong]

and it's over, Oakland up 2-0! woohoo!

hope they don't blow it...like last year....and the year before that....and the year before that.

 

[thatsright]

This is really getting me Depressed.

MAN THEY NEED TO TRADE that Fat Baaastard Manny. He's the biggest whiner, and we pay this fat load $16Mil a year for nothing. It would be sooo worth it to trade him for one or two great relievers. When he's on the bases, he is like a damn turtle, just waiting to get thrown out..........

GOD I can't stand him.

 

[Sid59]

tsk tsk .. GO A's!!!