Official Avail. Nov 13th - Android 4.2 - LG Nexus 4 - Asus Nexus 7 - Samsung Nexus 10

[vshah]

You can sign in with two step if you say no the first time the phone asks if you have a Google account. After that you have access to phone and texts. Go back into settings and add a Google account and all is well

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

wow this 2 step debacle is a boneheaded mistake.....

anyway im waiting for UPS still... they used to come at 5pm in high school, 6pm in college, close to 7 after I graduated... now i finish grad school and they come after 7pm!!! lol

 

[basslover1]

tl;dr : got Nexus 4, learned iPhone 5 SIM doesn't fit in Nexus 4 and modded a SIM, learned that two-step verification for gmail is a problem when your phone isn't set up yet. Learned that, as people said, the back of a Nexus 4 is a fingerprint magnet. So far, I like the Nexus 4 though.

-SNIP

WHHAAAATTTT??? You got yours? Didn't we order within minutes of each other?

I'm still in the dark on mine. WTF, Google?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

WOW GOOGLE. WOW.

I got my Nexus 10 today and it's the freaking 16gb version and not the 32gb version. Thanks Google. You made my day. Big F-you. Not only is my Nexus 4 Bumper here, but my Nexus 4 screen protector is too. The only device you manage to ship, my Nexus 10 is the wrong spec?

I played with mine a little more and I'm surprised maps acts like 25fps or something only. Was hoping for the 60fps goodness of butter.

 

[Zink]

So Google messed almost everything up. The last hope is that the tablet is nice. 25 fps is a high enough framerate for animation, what is your opinion on the rest of the device?

 

[pm]

WHHAAAATTTT??? You got yours? Didn't we order within minutes of each other?

I'm still in the dark on mine. WTF, Google?

Yeah, I think we did order within about 5 minutes of each other. And, yeah, mine arrived today.

I'm sorry, Bass.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

So Google messed almost everything up. The last hope is that the tablet is nice. 25 fps is a high enough framerate for animation, what is your opinion on the rest of the device?

Butter: not as impressive as I thought it would be.

Build: Decent. Better than I thought.

I don't really like 16:9. The tablet looks ridiculous in portrait. I am a former iPad 2 user and I have a HP TouchPad. I can say 4:3 is quite usable in portrait. I think this is what they were saying about the iPad Mini vs Nexus 7. I totally agree. It's great the Nexus 10 is optimum screen ratio for movies, but there's a lot more to tablets than just movies

 

[Fire&Blood]

Phone: Feels very nice in hand. Despite being the cheapest high end Android phone, it "feels" like it's the most expensive one. 1/4" too much bezel on the x axis, probably because of Optimus G which doesn't have the soft keys. Uniform thickness and the "glass touch" add the luxury impression. 8.5/10

Display does black better than expected, it is an upgrade over the Nexus. It could use some calibration though. I have yet to do any daylight testing but so far it beat's the GNex, it's a great display. 9.0/10

Speaker is louder and richer in sound reproduction than GNex but not by much. Definitely not audio processor's fault, sound is great with my Sennheisers headphones plugged in. Naked phone's sound will be muted on a flat surface. 7.5/10


Camera is better but we all know that the GNex was an easy target there. I like the new interface but in terms of hardware, other phones do better. 7.5/10.

It's a faster phone in every way than GNex but I don't think the hardware improvements over the GNex fully translate into observable gains, there is some room for software to improve. I did have one random launch force close. There was some micro lag sporadically. Chrome launches fast and that's the only time I will use the word "fast"to describe chrome. Dolphin handles heavy sites much better. I'm a little annoyed with being fully stock though. Need to root now, ads are becoming annoying. Unless I have a faulty notification LED, it appears broken in 4.2, for example handcent doesn't flash, nor do calls or incoming emails. 8.8/10.

Kinda disappointed I wasn't able to snag a 16GB but for the money this is an awesome phone. The counter argument would be that the price doesn't matter if you are stuck with a poor device but that is definitely not the case.

I did not "lose" anything for paying $300 instead of the the usual $500. 9/10

 

[Zink]

16:10 on small devices is kind of useful because it makes the screen narrow enough to hold in one hand while using the other on the touchscreen. The Nexus 7 kind of benefits from being like a big phone in portrait whereas the iPad mini is a bit to wide for that. At 10" I agree with you, 4:3 is way better. 16:10 is too narrow for portrait and too short for landscape, especially with Android software buttons and notification bar taking up screen space. Windows 8 almost makes 10" 16:9 usable by making applications completely full screen but it is still way too tall for useful portrait layouts.

The screen aspect ratio and software buttons are the biggest negatives I have for 10" android after using my Asus Transformer with 4.1. It makes the Nexus 10 a hard sell even at $400 because the iPad seems to have the right size screen.

 

[pm]

For what it's worth, I completely agree with Rick James Astley's comments - I wouldn't even add much to them. It's a fantastic phone for $300.

 

[basslover1]

Yeah, I think we did order within about 5 minutes of each other. And, yeah, mine arrived today.

I'm sorry, Bass.

Hey, no worries!

I got my shipping email maybe 10 minutes ago. From some reading on Reddit, it looks like those that shipped out today received a free upgrade to 1-day overnight shipping. Of course UPS isn't showing anything with my tracking number yet, but I should have it (and bumper) tomorrow night!

I appreciate the upgrade, when I ordered my Gnex from the play store I got it in one day anyone, but whatever I'll take the goodwill gesture anyway.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

So called the Play Store. They allowed me a replacement 32gb Nexus 10 via some special link. They told me to hang on to my 16gb while the 32gb comes in. Their official policy is 21 days to ship the old device back, so something tells me their rules aren't going to bend. If they take forever to ship my replacement out I'll be disappointed. Oh well. I'm already pretty meh about this launch execution.

Plus the longer they take, then perhaps the closer I am to getting a case too.

 

[s44]

Yes. As long as you're stock, root and unlocked bootloader won't effect automatic OS updates. It will help you get updates faster since you can download the official updates directly from Google and flash it yourself instead of waiting for the OTA.

OTA will break root though. Use supercurio's Rootkeeper or a similar function in the root app you have to prepare before updating.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I dunno. Personally I wouldn't deal with root and OTA. It's a mixed bag. most of time it works fine but I've seen it break, and there are enough stories online for certain devices failing. My old Motorola Milestone would lose root, and my gf's Incredible 2 would not OTA. I think if you're going to root, you should just stay rooted and look to custom ROMs for update or manually flashing AOSP.

 

[lopri]

Is this app (Camera Zoom FX) any good? I keep getting advertisement of this.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsInNsaWRlLmNhbWVyYVpvb20iXQ..

And they've got a whole bunch of camera apps of which the differences are not entirely clear to me.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=androidslide

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

My replacement Nexus 10 is due for November 25th shipping. Ugh? And how the hell do they ship on Sunday anyway?

 

[Demo24]

I played with mine a little more and I'm surprised maps acts like 25fps or something only. Was hoping for the 60fps goodness of butter.

You do realize that maps smoothness depends on how fast it can load data, of which it has a lot to load.

 

[Elganja]

Butter: not as impressive as I thought it would be.
Build: Decent. Better than I thought.
I don't really like 16:9. The tablet looks ridiculous in portrait. I am a former iPad 2 user and I have a HP TouchPad. I can say 4:3 is quite usable in portrait. I think this is what they were saying about the iPad Mini vs Nexus 7. I totally agree. It's great the Nexus 10 is optimum screen ratio for movies, but there's a lot more to tablets than just movies

really? i have the opposite feeling... but i have also used a bunch of android devices (evo 4g, evo 3d, galaxy nexus, galaxy tab 10.1, and now the nexus 10)

the nexus 10 (really android 4.2) is the first android OS that can really compete with iOS in terms of smoothness and "butter" IMHO (comparing to my old iphone 2g, 3g, 3gs and friends 4, 4s and 5)

 

[Headcase_Fargone]

You guys getting your shipment notifications, did you receive the back-order within three weeks email or no? Just wonder what level of limbo you were in before receiving shipment information.

I got the back-order email and my shipment estimate was never updated from November 15th. Not holding out hope at this point.

 

[Viper GTS]

You guys getting your shipment notifications, did you receive the back-order within three weeks email or no? Just wonder what level of limbo you were in before receiving shipment information.

I got the back-order email and my shipment estimate was never updated from November 15th. Not holding out hope at this point.

I got a tracking number last night and its out for delivery this morning. I got a confirmation email launch day but never got a backordered email.

If you got a backorder email you are probably in for a wait.

Viper GTS

 

[Eug]

White Nexus 4?

http://androidheadlines.com/2012/11...way-carphone-warehouse-seems-to-think-so.html

Maybe, or maybe not, but white would be my preference.

http://www.android4fans.com/2012/11/14/lg-nexus-4-white-is-real-photo-reveal-the-new-version/

That pic is not really what I'd prefer though as it's black with a white rim. I'd prefer all white or all black.

And again

Talk Talk link

Nexus 4 by LG White + Nexus 7 Tablet

The Google Nexus 7 and Nexus 4 white bundle work perfectly together, letting you sync email accounts, apps and your multimedia content across both devices.
Nexus 4 White Key Features

8 mega pixel camera with 1080p HD video camera
Google Play, your one-stop-shop for digital entertainment
Latest Android version 4.2 Jelly Bean

Pre-order now by choosing a plan. Stock expected 13th December.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Butter: not as impressive as I thought it would be.

Build: Decent. Better than I thought.

I don't really like 16:9. The tablet looks ridiculous in portrait. I am a former iPad 2 user and I have a HP TouchPad. I can say 4:3 is quite usable in portrait. I think this is what they were saying about the iPad Mini vs Nexus 7. I totally agree. It's great the Nexus 10 is optimum screen ratio for movies, but there's a lot more to tablets than just movies

The Nexus 10 is 16:10.

I don't see why you guys are all so obsessed with square screens, I use my 16:10 Xyboard in portrait 95% of the time, I only use landscape for watching video.

 

[basslover1]

You guys getting your shipment notifications, did you receive the back-order within three weeks email or no? Just wonder what level of limbo you were in before receiving shipment information.

I got the back-order email and my shipment estimate was never updated from November 15th. Not holding out hope at this point.

No I never got a backorder email from Google. I was just left in the dark about it for nearly a week. It seems, on reddit anyway, that those in my situation received their shipping notices yesterday. Once they get caught up on those I would guess you'll start seeing backordered customers phones go out later this week or early next.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Does anyones get a bit warm when you're taxing it?

Batt life is pretty meh so far, hopefully it improves a bit.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

The Nexus 10 is 16:10.

I don't see why you guys are all so obsessed with square screens, I use my 16:10 Xyboard in portrait 95% of the time, I only use landscape for watching video.

Because it looks awkwardly tall? I had an iPad 2 and HP Touchpad. I think there's a reason why pieces of paper are 8.5x11. Do you see people always using legal paper? Furthermore, the notification bar along with on screen bar makes the usable space in landscape more rectangular than 16:10, more like 16:9 or less.

It's just like how many people use their 16:10 monitors vertical unless you put 3 of them together? And even 16:10 is more suited for multi window operations. You can see that the Play Store has so much side space that can't be used. I suppose they need to better design the app. Basically my point is that on a 16:10 10" tablet, it's not tall enough to really read content well, and portrait is still too awkwardly tall. I find it easier to read on my TouchPad despite it performing like slideshow speeds.