Official Avail. Nov 13th - Android 4.2 - LG Nexus 4 - Asus Nexus 7 - Samsung Nexus 10

[Capt Caveman]

My replacement Nexus 10 is due for November 25th shipping. Ugh? And how the hell do they ship on Sunday anyway?

Well, you'll get your replacement sooner than I'll get my first Nexus 10.

 

[dagamer34]

Ended up calling customer support today. Said that my order had likely shipped either yesterday or today and I would get it tomorrow or Friday. My order went through at 10:56am last Tuesday.

 

[Viper GTS]

So I have my 4, so far so good - its fast, hardware is superb, etc. One major annoyance though:

I have my T-Mobile voicemail turned off completely (I use voice). Its disabled on the account. When I brought the 4 up for the first time with my new micro sim it thinks I have a voicemail waiting. I clear the message, it comes right back.

I've rebooted to no avail and T-Mobile support says I have no messages they can see to delete for me. If I call to check voicemail it says I don't have a mailbox, which is what I would expect.

WTF?

Update:

Called T-Mobile again and got a smarter agent. He re-enabled voicemail on my account and left me a voicemail which I then deleted. The indicator is gone now and voicemail is once again disabled. All is well now.

This phone is stupid fast and I never found my GN to be all that slow.

Viper GTS

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Well, you'll get your replacement sooner than I'll get my first Nexus 10.

I suspect I'm somewhere near the end of the line too, and that estimated shipping date is BS. Just like my estimated Nov 15 ship date of my Nexus 4 was bs...

 

[Eug]

Request: Please post your Nexus 4 HSPA+ speeds.

www.speedtest.net

Location
Carrier
Latency
Download speed
Upload speed

I'm particularly interested in Rogers/Fido speeds in Canada as well as other carriers around the world that aren't AT&T, although it'd be good to have AT&T numbers too for comparison.

 

[thisjustin]

Here's some quick tests on Tmobiles 4g network in Jacksonville Florida. Pinging servers in Florida and on the East coast.

In case the picture doesn't show up the speed varied between 8000 kbps and 12000 kbps for download. About 1500 kbps upload and ping between 100 ms and 1200.

Usually I would get around 5000 to 7000 kbps in the same area on my Galaxy nexus, similar upload and ping.

 

[lopri]

16:10 on small devices is kind of useful because it makes the screen narrow enough to hold in one hand while using the other on the touchscreen. The Nexus 7 kind of benefits from being like a big phone in portrait whereas the iPad mini is a bit to wide for that. At 10" I agree with you, 4:3 is way better. 16:10 is too narrow for portrait and too short for landscape, especially with Android software buttons and notification bar taking up screen space. Windows 8 almost makes 10" 16:9 usable by making applications completely full screen but it is still way too tall for useful portrait layouts.

The screen aspect ratio and software buttons are the biggest negatives I have for 10" android after using my Asus Transformer with 4.1. It makes the Nexus 10 a hard sell even at $400 because the iPad seems to have the right size screen.

I agree with this assessment. I was in the position to choose either one and ended up choosing 7 despite STRONG urge to have 10. For that size larger width is more useful especially for text. And I've heard that its internal weight is not evenly distributed, making the tallness more problematic (head-heavy).

P.S. Could anyone shed some light on Camera Zoom FX, or camera apps in general?

 

[lopri]

Here's some quick tests on Tmobiles 4g network in Jacksonville Florida. Pinging servers in Florida and on the East coast.

In case the picture doesn't show up the speed varied between 8000 kbps and 12000 kbps for download. About 1500 kbps upload and ping between 100 ms and 1200.

Usually I would get around 5000 to 7000 kbps in the same area on my Galaxy nexus, similar upload and ping.

That's pretty amazing coverage you've got there. 5000 to 7000 on Galaxy is 3G?

 

[Eug]

Here's some quick tests on Tmobiles 4g network in Jacksonville Florida. Pinging servers in Florida and on the East coast.

In case the picture doesn't show up the speed varied between 8000 kbps and 12000 kbps for download. About 1500 kbps upload and ping between 100 ms and 1200.

Usually I would get around 5000 to 7000 kbps in the same area on my Galaxy nexus, similar upload and ping.

That's excellent! Very encouraging. Well, except for the ping.

I'm on an iPhone 4 which supports 7.2 Mbps HSDPA and 5.6 Mbps HSUPA, but real world speeds really suck, in this range:

Location: Downtown Toronto
Carrier: Fido
Latency: 90-200 ms
Download speed: 0.20-1.6 Mbps
Upload speed: 1 Mbps

Location: Home in Toronto
Carrier: Fido
Latency: 65-100 ms
Download speed: 1-3 Mbps
Upload speed: 1-2 Mbps

I think Fido supports 21 Mbps HSPA+, so I'm hopeful it will be a huge speed upgrade with the Nexus 4. All I want (for now, until the Nexus 2013 comes out ) is consistent minimum 1-2 Mbps minimum with usual speeds about 4 Mbps down.

Mind you, my buddies on LTE are often getting north of 20 Mbps , and lower latency.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

latency is the big ew on HSPA. but speeds are nice.

 

[Ravynmagi]

latency is the big ew on HSPA. but speeds are nice.

That is the switch between 3G and HSPA+. If you run the test back to back, the latency drops a lot.

 

[ponyo]

Is this app (Camera Zoom FX) any good? I keep getting advertisement of this.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsInNsaWRlLmNhbWVyYVpvb20iXQ..

And they've got a whole bunch of camera apps of which the differences are not entirely clear to me.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=androidslide

I bought the Camera Zoom FX during the 10 cent sale I think. Is it good? I don't know. I tried it couple times but I just use the stock camera app on my Galaxy Nexus. If you're looking for free camera app for your Nexus 7, you can just install the shortcut to the stock camera app. Asus and Google deleted it from Nexus 7 for some reason. You can add it back. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=organic&utm_term=camera+launcher+for+nexus+7

 

[lopri]

Thank you, ponyo. Yes, I remember seeing the camera launcher in my first nexus 7! Totally forgot about it.

 

[vshah]

Just tried the nexus live wallpaper for the first time on the n4. Must say it's awesome to have no hint of lag even with the lwp running. Gnex on 4.2 was still a lagfest

 

[Fire&Blood]

Loving the N10 so far. I'll dissect it for few days longer before drawing conclusions but it's been very sweet so far.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Well, you'll get your replacement sooner than I'll get my first Nexus 10.

Your Nexus 10 is in the same order as your N4 right? So the gating item is most likely your N4.

My Nexus 10 replacement got a shipping notification at 1am today.

 

[Red Storm]

Loving the N10 so far. I'll dissect it for few days longer before drawing conclusions but it's been very sweet so far.

Same, but I didn't realize how much I enjoyed the portability of the Nexus 7 until I started using the 10. The display is amazing, but the added weight and size are making me consider returning it.

What I need is a Nexus 7 that can hook up to a TV.

 

[Eug]

Speeds on Rogers in the suburbs of Toronto:

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The pings are not bad. I'd be perfectly happy with those pings, and the download speeds are more than what I was hoping for. However, that's in the suburbs where it's much less congested. I'm still waiting for downtown urban speed tests. The upload speeds are no so great, but that's less important to me for a phone.

BTW, Rogers is HSPA+ 21 Mbps. No 42 support.

Same, but I didn't realize how much I enjoyed the portability of the Nexus 7 until I started using the 10. The display is amazing, but the added weight and size are making me consider returning it.

What I need is a Nexus 7 that can hook up to a TV.

Yeah, I've been complaining for years that 10" tablets are annoyingly "big". However, people always said I was nuts, esp. the Apple fans. Finally, with the Nexus 7 and iPad mini out now, people are actually starting to agree.

If I ever buy another iPad, it will be a mini, preferably with a higher rez screen.

 

[Fire&Blood]

The battery life on N4 has been stellar so far. Under nearly identical load, on average it uses 5-10% than GNex and it's even better in deep sleep. Took it off the charger after it was fully charged and forgot to plug it back in. It used 1% while idling overnight.

Same, but I didn't realize how much I enjoyed the portability of the Nexus 7 until I started using the 10. The display is amazing, but the added weight and size are making me consider returning it.

What I need is a Nexus 7 that can hook up to a TV.

I would probably feel the same way if I had any experience with the smaller tablets but I don't, I just jumped into the tablet market. I've been using an ipad 2 since I placed my order and I can definitely appreciate the difference in weight and thickness.

TWSS jokes aside, 7" is large enough for a tablet IMO If I need bigger, I wouldn't necessarily reach for a 10", rather switch to computer monitor or TV. I would buy a tablet with Exynos 5 pushing 1080p 7-8" over the Nexus 10 any day but I just couldn't wait anymore.

 

[Viper GTS]

T-Mobile in the Portland, OR area.

Viper GTS

 

[Zink]

After hearing nothing for a week and then getting the tracking number yesterday I have my Nexus 4. It is almost the exact same size and thickness as my T-Mobile Galaxy SII (aka SII X), only a few mm taller. Both the front and back glass touch the surface of a table when it is set down, unlike the S2 which has a plastic ring around the front and a soft touch back. I ordered a case but I have a feeling I might not use if it makes using the phone with one hand more difficult. The screen is nicer than the pentile Galxy S III screen for small text and graininess and I don't mind the black levels for reading ebooks with a black background. I do notice it feeling warmer than my S2 at the top of the phone but I think part of that is heavy use and glass transferring heat better than plastic.

Overall it is very similar to my old phone but also slightly nicer in just about every aspect. I'll do some speed tests tomorrow.

 

[ponyo]

The battery life on N4 has been stellar so far. Under nearly identical load, on average it uses 5-10% than GNex and it's even better in deep sleep. Took it off the charger after it was fully charged and forgot to plug it back in. It used 1% while idling overnight.

I looked at the battery life thread over at XDA and it looks like N4 battery life is about the same as HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus with official extended battery. It looks like ~3-4 hour screen time after being unplugged 12-16 yours. Which is good enough to get most people through their workday.

 

[aceO07]

The battery life on N4 has been stellar so far. Under nearly identical load, on average it uses 5-10% than GNex and it's even better in deep sleep. Took it off the charger after it was fully charged and forgot to plug it back in. It used 1% while idling overnight.

Yea, idling power usage is great. I managed to get 2% drop during 2.5hr span, while turning it on numerous times to check email/chat.

 

[s44]

Yea, idling power usage is great. I managed to get 2% drop during 2.5hr span, while turning it on numerous times to check email/chat.

Nice.

I just noticed how bad my GNex (LTE) battery use really is... 3%+ per hour while *in airplane mode*!?

 

[lopri]

I think stand-by power use is the biggest improvement Google has achieved by 4.2, going from 4.1.