** OFFICIAL ATOT SUPERBOWL THREAD ** WITH POLL!

[Kev]

Not that it was a deciding factore, but the officiating in this game was just terrible. The NFL needs to rethink their whole approch to the challenge, because the refs are awful.

 

[RU482]

Go RAIDERS!!!

 

[LeStEr]

Im glad this game will shut all you Raider fans up and give the Bucs some respect.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Defense wins championships.

 

[LH]

wonder how many of the Raiders players will be back next year for the big game...

Id probably say, not many, not many at all. I doubt they get anywhere near the SuperBowl next year.

One simple reason, this was their last shot at a title until the cap would take its toll on the team. They are way over the salary cap.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: LeStEr
Im glad this game will shut all you Raider fans up and give the Bucs some respect.

I'm not shutting up any time soon. Good try, though...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: maladroit
Not that it was a deciding factore, but the officiating in this game was just terrible. The NFL needs to rethink their whole approch to the challenge, because the refs are awful.

I almost thought I was watching an NBA game it was so bad.
How about that bogus pass interference call early in the 4th? Didn't swing the game much but OMG was that ever a bad call. The pass wasn't even remotely catchable.

As for the game itself, my hat's off to the Bucs defense. Great job. Too bad the Raiders defense forgot to show up...

edit:

Originally posted by: LeStEr
Im glad this game will shut all you Raider fans up and give the Bucs some respect.

Who?

 

[Fritzo]

*Sigh* The Steelers should have been there, not the Raiders They were robbed in their last game. THAT would have been an exciting game.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
*Sigh* The Steelers should have been there, not the Raiders They were robbed in their last game. THAT would have been an exciting game.

I would have enjoyed a Steelers v. Raiders AFC Championship but I don't think the Steelers could have pulled it off with their defense.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Matt2
"The Bucs will win.

You guys are forgetting about the most important guy in the game. John Gruden. The way he calls games is masterful to say the least. Just look what he did to Philly! He knew his WRs were overmatched with that great Philly secondary, but he cleverly used his assets to create mismatches! Come on, using tight ends to get Keyshawn one on one with a linebacker???

The bucs defense is much better than you guys give them credit for. Why are you Raider fans telling us that you will win because we have average DBs??? Duh we have average DBs, it's the cover pattern they use that make them great. If it were one on one all the way across the board, yes, Tampa's Secondary would get smoked. But that's the beauty of the cover 2 defense. They dont ahve to cover the Raider Wrs one on one. The DB's job is to funnel the WRs to the middle of the field where Tampa's linebackers can take away the big plays, this is the beauty of Tampa Bay, they dont give up the big ones because they use every single one of thier assets. And you guys talk about the Raider's offensive line like they are perfect.. Umm... no. Do u guys really think that the lumbering O-Line of Oakland can contain the lightning quick D-Line of Tampa? I believe that Oakland's O-Line will contain Sapp and the other Dts very well. But I just dont see Barry Sims (Left tackle) standing a chance against Simeon Rice. Rice is two fast and Sims is reported to be a technique blocker. Rice's outside speed is nto going to let Sims use his techniques. And what about the famous 9 men in the box blitz Tampa brings with Brooks and Lynch both blitzing? How will Gannon react? Will he force a throw? Probably not. Will he scramble? He wont get much against Tampa's quick defense. But he'll have to deviate from his original play. That may not seem like a big deal, but it goes with disrupting Gannon's rythm in the game and taking away the big plays. What about he devasting corner blitz from Barber? I jsut want you Raider fans to remember it's not going to be a 5 or 6 on 4 up front. The Oakland O-Line wont dominate and Gannon wont have eternity to throw, Tampa just wont let that happen. "

Did I hit it on the head or what?

Sounds like you do a lot things on the Head. You are so insightful that they should have you on every week making predictions on ESPN.

Now now, no one likes a sore loser.

 

[hpkeeper]

DWIGHT SMITH SHOULD HAVE WON MVP

 

[LeStEr]

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: LeStEr
Im glad this game will shut all you Raider fans up and give the Bucs some respect.

I'm not shutting up any time soon. Good try, though...

Maybe the game wont shut you up but it will make you look like an idiot if you try to talk about the Raiders in the Super Bowl again......

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: hpkeeper
DWIGHT SMITH SHOULD HAVE WON MVP

Dwight was awesome, but I think the MVP went to the right guy.

While Dwight did return two INTs for touchdowns, it was Dexter Jackson's two INTs that broke the Raiders' back and shot Gannon's confidence. The early INTs are always the most psychologically damaging.

 

[SuperSix]

There has to be at least one questionable call, otherwise the it would give you lame Raiders fans an excuse.

Face it.. you had your asses HANDED TO YOU...

Jerry Who?
Bill Who?

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: SuperSix
There has to be at least one questionable call, otherwise the it would give you lame Raiders fans an excuse.

Face it.. you had your asses HANDED TO YOU...

Jerry Who?
Bill Who?

Oh.. And STFU Red, you miserable piece of sh!t...

 

[SuperSix]

And to all you Tampa haters...


SUCK IT!


WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

 

[LAUST]

The tRaitors couldn't sink a row boat, now we know who the real Pirates are

 

[Tom]

Whining about officiating is like complaining about the field being 100 yards long.

The referees make the calls and thats the end of it.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: LH
All you bitching about the pass interference call, it was the wrong call, but there still should have been a penalty on Woodson. There WAS defensive holding. There was holding after 5 yards. Not like it matter though the Raiders got their ass kicked thanks to themselves. You can say bad calls cost them the game.

The Raiders lost the game, but this was some horrible officiating. The Bucs "fumble" in the first half, the 2pt converstion, the pass interference (can you call holding if the ball is uncatchable?), and Porter being out of the end zone (this one was close, but the Refs made such bad calls it has to be included). With the execption of Porter's TD every other wrong call made was so obvious that you knew the call was BS before they even did the replays. The "fumble" has to be the prime example (his knees were down and even if they weren't the ground can't cause a fumble).

Argh. I totally agree w/Madden (and have for years) that having all-star officals instead of the best crew is a mistake.


Lethal

 

[murphy55d]

So is the city of Oakland and/or LA rioting?

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe

Originally posted by: LH
All you bitching about the pass interference call, it was the wrong call, but there still should have been a penalty on Woodson. There WAS defensive holding. There was holding after 5 yards. Not like it matter though the Raiders got their ass kicked thanks to themselves. You can say bad calls cost them the game.

The Raiders lost the game, but this was some horrible officiating. The Bucs "fumble" in the first half, the 2pt converstion, the pass interference (can you call holding if the ball is uncatchable?), and Porter being out of the end zone (this one was close, but the Refs made such bad calls it has to be included). With the execption of Porter's TD every other wrong call made was so obvious that you knew the call was BS before they even did the replays. The "fumble" has to be the prime example (his knees were down and even if they weren't the ground can't cause a fumble).

Argh. I totally agree w/Madden (and have for years) that having all-star officals instead of the best crew is a mistake.


Lethal

So you're saying the Raiders couldv'e won if the officiating had gone your way?



You sir, are a dipsh!t.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: LeStEr

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: LeStEr
Im glad this game will shut all you Raider fans up and give the Bucs some respect.

I'm not shutting up any time soon. Good try, though...

Maybe the game wont shut you up but it will make you look like an idiot if you try to talk about the Raiders in the Super Bowl again......

No, it won't. The Raiders were the next best team today. The Buc's won. Happy?!
You're a poor example of the Team you claim for fame.
What we'll be talking about is how to rebuild a team that won't have the same line up next year. The Raider Nation never quits.

 

[Shlong]

Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
Wow, looks like the NFC South is where its at next season. We got the Superbowl champion Bucs, the Lambeau Lovin' Falcons, the missed-the-playoffs-by-a-hair Saints...

...and the holy-fvck-how-the-hell-did-we-win-7-games Panthers!!!

<-- fully expects the Panthers to be the red-headed bastard stepchild of the NFC South

NFC South does look strong especially if the Falcons get an O-line and some WR for Vick to throw to, New Orleans gets a defense and don't do their annual implosion at the end of the season and if the Panthers can get an offense. Congrats Bucs, you guys deserved this one.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: SuperSix

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe

Originally posted by: LH
All you bitching about the pass interference call, it was the wrong call, but there still should have been a penalty on Woodson. There WAS defensive holding. There was holding after 5 yards. Not like it matter though the Raiders got their ass kicked thanks to themselves. You can say bad calls cost them the game.

The Raiders lost the game, but this was some horrible officiating. The Bucs "fumble" in the first half, the 2pt converstion, the pass interference (can you call holding if the ball is uncatchable?), and Porter being out of the end zone (this one was close, but the Refs made such bad calls it has to be included). With the execption of Porter's TD every other wrong call made was so obvious that you knew the call was BS before they even did the replays. The "fumble" has to be the prime example (his knees were down and even if they weren't the ground can't cause a fumble).

Argh. I totally agree w/Madden (and have for years) that having all-star officals instead of the best crew is a mistake.


Lethal

So you're saying the Raiders couldv'e won if the officiating had gone your way?



You sir, are a dipsh!t.

Where do I say the Raiders would've won if it weren't for the officials? The Raiders lost 'cause they played like crap the first 40 minutes of the game and their o-line got eatin alive.

Ya know, it is possible for the Raiders to lose AND for their to be bad officiating w/o the latter causing the former.

If you have problems w/the clarity of my post then say so, but putting words in my mouth and jumping to conclusions makes you the "dipsh!t" dumb@ss.


Lethal

 

[LeStEr]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: LeStEr

Originally posted by: hdeck

Originally posted by: LeStEr
Im glad this game will shut all you Raider fans up and give the Bucs some respect.

I'm not shutting up any time soon. Good try, though...

Maybe the game wont shut you up but it will make you look like an idiot if you try to talk about the Raiders in the Super Bowl again......

No, it won't. The Raiders were the next best team today. The Buc's won. Happy?!
You're a poor example of the Team you claim for fame.
What we'll be talking about is how to rebuild a team that won't have the same line up next year. The Raider Nation never quits.

Im just saying that Tampa hasnt got the respect they deserve all year and now they have won the super bowl. This thread was flooded with people saying the bucs dont stand a chance and they POUNDED the raiders.