*******Official ATOT GAS thread*******

CHfan4ever

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For god sake.We all know a world shortage is incoming and the New World Order will take place.

This is not a rumor.

This is it.The official gas thread!

So you if you wanna talk oil, digestive problem, all discussion must come here.

Please MODS make this a sticky to the other 8 sticky when we enter atot :p

 

klah

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There will be 50 more in about 8 hours when people get to work and decide they have to share their commuting stories.

 

AmdEmAll

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We need a stickied thread just for GAS discussions, any other thread should be locked.
 

OutHouse

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STFU, threads are like TV, if you dont like whats showing dont flip to the channel.

I personally find it interesting and informative on getting first hand info on what the gas situation is across the country.
 

ai42

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So can we start flaming each other to why gas price caps are/aren't a good idea.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Can I bitch about the price of milk here? :confused:



Yes damn milk is 2.99/gal! WTF

as for a solution for cheap gas: move to Iraq and Venezuela
 

Arkitech

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Can you imagine what its going to be like this winter? The cost of heating a house will be astronomical. A few questions:

Can't Bush do anything to stem the rising prices?

Why are oil companies experiencing issues with refineries? In almost every major utility industry (phone, electric, etc..) the goverment forces companies to reinvest into their infrastructures why has'nt this been the case with the oil industry?

At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Can you imagine what its going to be like this winter? The cost of heating a house will be astronomical. A few questions:

Can't Bush do anything to stem the rising prices?
heehee ur funny. us americans voted for him to take vacation 240 days a year, not work.


Why are oil companies experiencing issues with refineries? In almost every major utility industry (phone, electric, etc..) the goverment forces companies to reinvest into their infrastructures why has'nt this been the case with the oil industry?
oil companies pay a lot of taxes

At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
when water becomes a energy source

 

Ricemarine

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: Arkitech
At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
when water becomes a energy source

If water becomes an energy source, we will eventually run out of it lol...
Think of how fast we depleted oil.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: Ricemarine
Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: Arkitech
At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
when water becomes a energy source

If water becomes an energy source, we will eventually run out of it lol...
Think of how fast we depleted oil.


wrong! you can purify pee!
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
What do you mean backlash? What could we do?

Well in desperate times people do desperate things, not that I'm encouraging a riot or anything. There's already an issue with unemployment in the US, evidence of this is seen in the slumping automobile industry, the unusually low interest rates and ultra competitive job market. So I would imagine with gas prices rising higher and higher this late in the year there might be some form of reaction when people can longer afford to heat their homes or get around from place to place.
 

ai42

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Can you imagine what its going to be like this winter? The cost of heating a house will be astronomical. A few questions:

Can't Bush do anything to stem the rising prices?

Why are oil companies experiencing issues with refineries? In almost every major utility industry (phone, electric, etc..) the goverment forces companies to reinvest into their infrastructures why has'nt this been the case with the oil industry?

At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
Bush can only do so much he isn't a genie. They just passed a new energy policy that won't take effect for several years. And the strategic oil reserve is finite and won't last forever.

Oil companies are having issues with refineries because that is life and stuff goes wrong sometimes. Also most refineries have been running at 100% capacity for quite a long time and people get tired and make mistakes etc.

If I'm not mistaken oil companies are required to put money into more infrastructure. And from my understanding there are several proposals to build new refineries but the government permits and such needed to make one is insane and takes years to even get approval for.

backlash? Maybe people will start buying more fuel efficent cars? I wish.
 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Can you imagine what its going to be like this winter? The cost of heating a house will be astronomical. A few questions:

Can't Bush do anything to stem the rising prices?
heehee ur funny. us americans voted for him to take vacation 240 days a year, not work.


Why are oil companies experiencing issues with refineries? In almost every major utility industry (phone, electric, etc..) the goverment forces companies to reinvest into their infrastructures why has'nt this been the case with the oil industry?
oil companies pay a lot of taxes

I don't know how much these companies pay in taxes but with billions of customers in the US alone I find it hard to believe they would'nt reinvest some of their profits. Also the goverment provides certain subsidies to industries that provide a neccessary function to the general public.

At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
when water becomes a energy source

 

Arkitech

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Originally posted by: ai42
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Can you imagine what its going to be like this winter? The cost of heating a house will be astronomical. A few questions:

Can't Bush do anything to stem the rising prices?

Why are oil companies experiencing issues with refineries? In almost every major utility industry (phone, electric, etc..) the goverment forces companies to reinvest into their infrastructures why has'nt this been the case with the oil industry?

At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
Bush can only do so much he isn't a genie. They just passed a new energy policy that won't take effect for several years. And the strategic oil reserve is finite and won't last forever.

Oil companies are having issues with refineries because that is life and stuff goes wrong sometimes. Also most refineries have been running at 100% capacity for quite a long time and people get tired and make mistakes etc.

If I'm not mistaken oil companies are required to put money into more infrastructure. And from my understanding there are several proposals to build new refineries but the government permits and such needed to make one is insane and takes years to even get approval for.

backlash? Maybe people will start buying more fuel efficent cars? I wish.


I don't know man, I don't think this situation is the public's fault. I remember watching a special some years ago about a company that tried to introduce a vehicle that was more fuel effecient and just overall better built. As I recall the company and the man behind it were really literally ran right out of the market. And taking it a step further if the goverment were truly concerned about the environment and the eventual problems associated with rising fuel costs measures could have been put into place many years ago to at least "try" and head off this problem. But like most things in this world as long as profits can be made, the logical choices are often overlooked.
 

ai42

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: ai42
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Can you imagine what its going to be like this winter? The cost of heating a house will be astronomical. A few questions:

Can't Bush do anything to stem the rising prices?

Why are oil companies experiencing issues with refineries? In almost every major utility industry (phone, electric, etc..) the goverment forces companies to reinvest into their infrastructures why has'nt this been the case with the oil industry?

At what point do you think there will be a backlash against the rising fuel prices?
Bush can only do so much he isn't a genie. They just passed a new energy policy that won't take effect for several years. And the strategic oil reserve is finite and won't last forever.

Oil companies are having issues with refineries because that is life and stuff goes wrong sometimes. Also most refineries have been running at 100% capacity for quite a long time and people get tired and make mistakes etc.

If I'm not mistaken oil companies are required to put money into more infrastructure. And from my understanding there are several proposals to build new refineries but the government permits and such needed to make one is insane and takes years to even get approval for.

backlash? Maybe people will start buying more fuel efficent cars? I wish.


I don't know man, I don't think this situation is the public's fault. I remember watching a special some years ago about a company that tried to introduce a vehicle that was more fuel effecient and just overall better built. As I recall the company and the man behind it were really literally ran right out of the market. And taking it a step further if the goverment were truly concerned about the environment and the eventual problems associated with rising fuel costs measures could have been put into place many years ago to at least "try" and head off this problem. But like most things in this world as long as profits can be made, the logical choices are often overlooked.
While the government does have some say in things they only have so much power. People buy cars based on how cool it looks and how fast it goes. Since when is a Honda Insight cool? Fuel efficency is not something Americans are big on. Look at car threads on ATOT and there are mostly supercars and cars/trucks which huge oversized engines. Part of it has to do with government regulations as well. We have very strict emissions laws that make it hard for a diesel car possible. In the UK there are loads of diesel cars from every manufactuer due to it's inherient fuel efficency. Perhaps with rising energy costs fuel efficency will be shoved down the throats of those who swear by their SUVs. And it can be argued that taking profits is logical and good for everyone.