*** Official ASUS P5B / P5B Deluxe Thread ***

[Kwake]

I have assembled: P5B deluxe/wifi; E6600; Corsair 2x1GB XMS2 6400; WD500GB SATA; Lite-on SATA DVD writer. Simple, I thought.
I turned it on and went into the BIOS setup. It all looked OK; I only changed the DVD to be the first boot device. It recognized all the components.
Then I tried to boot. I put the XP MCE CD in the drive, but it just tells me to try again. Nada. Since everything SEEMS to be OK in the BIOS, why won't it read the CD??
Puzzled in the extreme. Any ideas??

 

[Rafael]

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: Rafael
Yeah I never noticed what you said dwillingm, because I leave that Ai screen. So I don't get to see the info.
But it does recognize wrong the memory bandwidth.
Well but on CPU-Z it says right for me.

What I noticed looking on CPU-Z that started to bothering me, was that on MOTHERBOARD tab I am getting the info that my Graphical width is x1 instead of x16.
I checked on the BIOS it is set right, and when I use the stock speeds it does recognize right the x16.
Now I wonder if it is a CPU-Z bug or it is running x1. I gonna run some benchmarks and check.
So basically it only happens when OC my system.
Could someone check and report back?

TIA!

Rafael

Yup, that's an issue with the P5B-Deluxe. The only way I was able to get it to change from x1 to x16 when overclocking was sto manually set the Northbridge and Southbridge voltages. Leaving either one on Auto (when overclocking) would always cause it to be at x1.

HHHmmmm good to know!
Glad you solved that problem!
I will try and report back! Thnx 3NF!

Rafael

 

[Rafael]

Originally posted by: Kwake
I have assembled: P5B deluxe/wifi; E6600; Corsair 2x1GB XMS2 6400; WD500GB SATA; Lite-on SATA DVD writer. Simple, I thought.
I turned it on and went into the BIOS setup. It all looked OK; I only changed the DVD to be the first boot device. It recognized all the components.
Then I tried to boot. I put the XP MCE CD in the drive, but it just tells me to try again. Nada. Since everything SEEMS to be OK in the BIOS, why won't it read the CD??
Puzzled in the extreme. Any ideas??

Do you have a IDE drive to try? Doesn't it have to do with the SATA drivers?

I remember that I saw something like this in some pages back.
If I find it will linkfy the post.

Rafael

 

[dwillingm]

Do most people agree that any temperature under 60 is safe for a C2D?

Under Prime95 load I am getting to about 57 degrees. Using Orthos (which uses both cores), my temps spiked to 63 and I shut down immediatley.

I think the Asus probe may be recording the temps too high, I will try some other programs tonight to compare. Has anyone else seen problems with Asus probe cpu temps?

I am at 435 x 8, with 1.5 volts. I will try to tweak the volts down if I can, but 1.45 volts was not enough to run 3dmark06.

One more issue I saw is that my scores in 3dmark06 did not really increase going from 335x9 vs 435x8. Shouldnt they go alot higher with that processor speed change? I dont think the video card is the bottleneck, it is an 8800GTS. At both speeds I am getting around 10,500 points.

 

[Mike89]

I have read this whole thread regarding how to install drivers for SATA hard drives to use ACHI in the BIOS instead of IDE. I am no closer now to understanding this than I was when I started reading.

I installed XP with SATA at IDE in BIOS and XP installed fine without needing any floppy drivers. Now I'm wondering if I should have gone with ACHI. My two drives are WD 250 gig (so called SATA 2) and do not have NCQ. I was under the impression that a SATA hard drive has to have NCQ for the ACHI drivers to even work (or be able to add any performance enhancing benefits at all). Is this true?

Some here say to hit F6 to install drivers off the floppy during the XP install, having the BIOS set to SATA IDE and then afterwards set the BIOS to ACHI. Some say it won't work that way and that you have to have the BIOS SATA set to ACHI all the way through the floppy driver install and subsequent XP install (which makes more sense to me).

With the conflicting info, I'm leary to even try it since my system is working fine the way it is now. I have yet to see any definitive answer if there is indeed any performance difference at all from using Windows drivers for SATA IDE vs Intel drivers for SATA ACHI. Sure would like to see some comparison benchmarks to see if it's even worth the trouble.

I've seen posts here about HD Tach burst speeds of 123 mb/s with the Raptor. That seems really weird to me cause with my lowly WD 250s, I get burst speeds around 165 mb/s in HD Tach. And that's at SATA IDE in BIOS not running in any kind of RAID. The Raptor should be kicking the crap out of what I have.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: dwillingm
Do most people agree that any temperature under 60 is safe for a C2D?

Under Prime95 load I am getting to about 57 degrees. Using Orthos (which uses both cores), my temps spiked to 63 and I shut down immediatley.

I think the Asus probe may be recording the temps too high, I will try some other programs tonight to compare. Has anyone else seen problems with Asus probe cpu temps?

I am at 435 x 8, with 1.5 volts. I will try to tweak the volts down if I can, but 1.45 volts was not enough to run 3dmark06.

One more issue I saw is that my scores in 3dmark06 did not really increase going from 335x9 vs 435x8. Shouldnt they go alot higher with that processor speed change? I dont think the video card is the bottleneck, it is an 8800GTS. At both speeds I am getting around 10,500 points.

10,500 sounds about right with your setup. You aren't going to see a big difference by overclocking the CPU. Try overclocking your video card instead

 

[dwillingm]

hi 3nf.

can you explain why overclocking the cpu wont make a difference in 3dmark06? will it make more of a difference when actually playing games?

i have overclcoked the video, that how i got the 10,500. the video is at 630 and the video ram is at 950.

 

[Rafael]

OK!
Still having problem with x1.
This thing seems to happen a lot with all kind of users.
Researched last night about this problem, and seems I gonna have to go back to BIOS 09something. Before the 1004.
Tried all the suggestions I found out and no joy.
So I will try the last resource with downgrading the BIOS and try vNB set manually and see if that works for me.

Thnx for the input 3NF.

Yeah you are a safe with temps under 60s.
I would not worry much if in a benchmark or stress testing hit over 60s.
Try to use TAT (Intel Thermal Analysis Tool). Asus Probe here always get temps bellow the real.

About the 3Dmark06 scores, I don't know what is the average of marks is for your vga.
But I know that 3Dmark06 is less dependent on CPU than the earlier versions.
It will make some difference in some games that are more cpu dependent.

 

[Mike89]

I had the PCIE reverting from 16x to 1x myself when I was trying higher overclocks and messing with the Northbridge/Southbridge voltages. The highest stable overclock I can get is 356 FSB (1/1) which gives me my 3.2 gigs. Anything higher than that on my system resulted in instability and/or the PCIE going to 1X (which pretty much negates the overclock being it cripples the vid card so much). I don't know how these guys are getting these insane FSBs with this board. It's good for them but I'm pretty dam happy at 3.2 gig. I'll take it, got myself a $1000 processor (actually even higher) for $300. Not too shabby. And, with the car radiator sized ThermalRight Ultra 120 on that sucker, temps are sweet.

 

[DNyholm]

Hopefully someone can help me out here. I am running Bios 0507 and I can over clock up to FSB 300 but 301 gives me an Orthos error when I run Blend, but not CPU. I then switched to 425FSB x 7 (3.0) and I run everything (orthos, Prime95, superPi) smoothly at 1.25 v vcore Patriot DDR2 800 at 2.25v 4-4-4-12.

The problem comes when I shut the computer down and try to restart it. I can hear my GPU fan on full speed (it does that for the first 5 seconds after reboot but then slows down), but it will stay on full speed and I won't get anything on the monitor. I hear all the other fans on and the HDD is loading like it was starting XP (the num lock key flashes like normal as well), but the computer won't boot. I have to turn it off at the power supply and when I turn it back on, it is fine until the next time I turn it off. THe cycle continues exactly like that everytime.

Any ideas? Would it be helpful if I went to a newer BIOS??

Last question, on PC Probe II, it is showing my MB temp at 40* (which seems high to me). Where is that actual sensor and where would I add a fan to help cool that (suggestions for a fan?). My CPU temp is 39* idle and 46* full load for reference.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: dwillingm
hi 3nf.

can you explain why overclocking the cpu wont make a difference in 3dmark06? will it make more of a difference when actually playing games?

i have overclcoked the video, that how i got the 10,500. the video is at 630 and the video ram is at 950.

I'm saying it will only make a small difference. Try going back to the default settings (2.4 GHz) and run 3DMark then. You should see a decrease in your score, but not a huge decrease.

Another scenario to compare with is someone that has the same chip, but a 7000 series video card. In this case, you'll see a huge difference in score.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Mike89
I had the PCIE reverting from 16x to 1x myself when I was trying higher overclocks and messing with the Northbridge/Southbridge voltages. The highest stable overclock I can get is 356 FSB (1/1) which gives me my 3.2 gigs. Anything higher than that on my system resulted in instability and/or the PCIE going to 1X (which pretty much negates the overclock being it cripples the vid card so much). I don't know how these guys are getting these insane FSBs with this board. It's good for them but I'm pretty dam happy at 3.2 gig. I'll take it, got myself a $1000 processor (actually even higher) for $300. Not too shabby. And, with the car radiator sized ThermalRight Ultra 120 on that sucker, temps are sweet.

Try lowering your multiplier to 8 and then raise the FSB. Some folks are running 7 x 500!

 

[Mike89]

Try lowering your multiplier to 8 and then raise the FSB. Some folks are running 7 x 500!

Tried all that. The combo I gave was as high as I could get. Even tried 8x400 which gave the same 3.2 gig, but had stability issues and the PCIE 1X issue. As I said, I'm not complaining. A 2.4 gig chip hitting 3.2 is fine in my book.

 

[Cstefan]

Heh, no matter what I try, cheap ram, good ram, e4300, p4 ht, it just powers on, then off, then on, then off, etc.

Ds3 from microcenter tonight to replace p5b deluxe.

 

[DNyholm]

I wnat to add a heatsink to my NB, but I am not sure which way I should go. I am getting temps in the low 40's so I don't think I need anything drastic, just something that will give me piece of mind. Do you think this will be sufficient??
COOLER MASTER SLC-S41-U1 Copper Fan&Heatsinks - Retail

 

[dwillingm]

has anyone experiemnted with seeing if adding voltage to the SB can increase the amount that you can overclock you video card?

is increases the SB voltage actually increasing the voltage to the gpu?

 

[Ruri]

I just finish assemble a new system with P5B Deluxe/E6400/Tuniq Tower 120/GSkill 2GBHZ.
It post and install xp ok in stock speed. Then I open SpeedFan and I see that the AUX is 127C !!!
I immediately turn it off.. Later I try again, same result!! Now I can't use my new system until I find out what's going on!!

What's AUX on SpeedFan anyway? How come it's at 127C ??? I can boil water with 127C!!!
Damn, I will RMA the MB back to newegg...

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Ruri
I just finish assemble a new system with P5B Deluxe/E6400/Tuniq Tower 120/GSkill 2GBHZ.
It post and install xp ok in stock speed. Then I open SpeedFan and I see that the AUX is 127C !!!
I immediately turn it off.. Later I try again, same result!! Now I can't use my new system until I find out what's going on!!

What's AUX on SpeedFan anyway? How come it's at 127C ??? I can boil water with 127C!!!
Damn, I will RMA the MB back to newegg...

Ignore it. Do a Google Search for "Aux SpeedFan".

 

[DNyholm]

Yeah, mine shows 127* as well. Looks like you don't need to worry about it

 

[DNyholm]

Originally posted by: Rafael
Yeah I never noticed what you said dwillingm, because I leave that Ai screen. So I don't get to see the info.
But it does recognize wrong the memory bandwidth.
Well but on CPU-Z it says right for me.

What I noticed looking on CPU-Z that started to bothering me, was that on MOTHERBOARD tab I am getting the info that my Graphical width is x1 instead of x16.
I checked on the BIOS it is set right, and when I use the stock speeds it does recognize right the x16.
Now I wonder if it is a CPU-Z bug or it is running x1. I gonna run some benchmarks and check.
So basically it only happens when OC my system.
Could someone check and report back?

TIA!

Rafael

Rafeal
After a little bit of fooling around, I have my system up to 400x8. I checked in CPUz and I show x16. When I put the FSB up to 410 or more, I get the graphical width of x1, but when I go back down to 400 it turns back to x16. What are you overclocking at??

 

[Archivist]

quote: quote:
Originally posted by: Archivist
Help please, having trouble with P5B MB.

Crashes w/IE6/7 (IE 7 uninstalled) consistently but intermittently upon loading images, going back to prior page displays. Games - DVDShrink etc. cause same problem w/totally blank screen followed by re-boot back into windows.

2nd MB w/multiple WinXP SP2 & updates installed.

Configuration - Mother Board: P5b Deluxe BIOS P5WDH 1004
Processor: E6600 Retail
Memory: 2 GiG of Crucial (TY2Kit12864AA663) {2 x 1GB DDR2 5300}
New 500GB Sata - Maxtor (7h500F0)
Powersupply: 550 Watt Zumax (ZU550W)

Not Overclocked - not stable enough

Event log does not provide much info as to cause or what is occurring. Thinking it might be a memory "dump" but nothing recorded, so unable to track.

Suggestions and Help Please, no response from ASUS Memory is listed at Crucial but not can not find again.

Dave & Grant



Have you ran memtest? Something like that?
It is random reboot? Or every time you do these things you said the system reboots?
Everything is stock? Have you tried to raise the vcore? Are the voltages stable?
If the memtest pass and raise the vcore don't help.
I would say that you getting HDD error. Something like that.

Try those things and answer those questions. And we might have a solution for you.

Rafael

First, I would like thank Rafael for the excellent advise... Second, I appolgise that i have not been able to respond sooner. With work and non-functioning computer, it can be diffucult.

Next, I would like to say that memory test that I ran came back with tons of errors. (so many infact, I immidately called Crucial for and RMA exchange. 2048+ errors)

NOW the bad news... I have replaced the exchaged memory with the new Balistics (BL12864AA663.16FD2) 2x1Gig PC2-5300 CL3 Sticks. And the I immidatelly ran the memory test again. I comes back with as many errors as the other memory. Is it possible that this type of memory is incompatible with this motherbord?

The Memory tester I used was: Memtest86+ Ver.1.70
Source: www.memtest.org/

Another thought, I was thinking that it could be the powersupply. I am not sure it is providing the mb with enough power. it is a 550W PS though. any thoughs would be greatly appriciated!

thanks Grant & Dave

PS: To answer some of these question posted earlyer.

It is random reboot? Random
Or every time you do these things you said the system reboots? When I am running aplications. (explorer, Games, etc.)
Everything is stock? I have used the default settings.
Have you tried to raise the vcore? I have 1.30 (i think)
Are the voltages stable? How can i tell?

 

[imported_buc]

Finaly the p5b MB it post now.The problem was the memory you got to start with a ddr2 665 and after it post you install back the ddr2 800.I don't have another memory chip so I got to take the PC to a computer repair store to do that.I try to make ASUS to pay for the charge because I think is a glick into the MB.

 

[orion7144]

Everyone with the PCIe 1X issue all you have to do is manualy set the voltages for -fsb termin 1.4
-vmch 1.45 also I have found that putting the PCIe frequency to 105 helps also. I am running my 6300 at 7X450. Also manualy set your Vcore while your at it since if left on auto it increases it too high and heats the cpu up even more. Mine is running at 1.325

 

[DNyholm]

Archivist,
YOu may have already set this, but I had to manually raise my memory voltage to 2.25 (since there is no 2.20 setting on the MB). If I had it on auto, the computer would give me memory errors on memtest and I couldn't run tight(er) timings. Give it a shot if you haven't already.

Orion7144,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am going to raise back up to 415x8 tonight and see if I can set those voltages and still get x16 for the video. I was stable at that speed, but the x1 video really didn't seem like a good thing!!

 

[Rafael]

Thanx guys for the report!

I was away it was carnival here.
I am going to test it the next few days.
What BIOS are you using? 1004? That is the BIOS I am using.
I read many things, including to roll back the BIOS to 09XX as I said the other post back.
I am using 401 Mhz = DDR2 802.
The vMCH is the vSB? The southbridge correct?
I will try those speeds that you are saying. 400 Mhz and 415 Mhz.

TIA!

Rafael