*** Official ASUS P4P800/Deluxe (865PE) Thread ***

[GrumpyBob]

I just got my system up and running and thought some of my info may help others.

P4P800 1009 bios
CPU 2.6c OC @ 266 to 3.45ghz
Sapphire 9800 OC to 248/230
Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu
CPU running 80F by Asus probe. 105F after 4hrs of Prime95

DRAM Freq 266mhz
AGP/PCI Freq 72.73/36.36
Performance Standard

CPU vCore 1.55
AGP VDDQ 1.6
DDR Ref V 2.55
Cass 2-2-2-6
Ram Kingston HyperX PC3500 2X512
Graphics Aperture 128mb

TESTS
3.42 3.45 3.48
Aidia R 4610 4653 4680
Aidia W 1689 1729 1735

Sis Sandra
CPU A 16872 17050 17050
CPU MM 39836 40928 40825
MEM 10237 10343 10264
Files 30767 30770

UT Flyby 216 226 226
UT Bot 83 83 83

3dMark 2003 5261
Prime 95 Toture test 4.25 hrs @ 3.45ghz

I was able to boot at 3.57 but 3dmark kept hanging and Prime95 lasted about 10 minutes.
I sure it could be tweaked higher, but I'm happy with it for now.

 

[GrumpyBob]

Let's try this again. I saw after posting that my data didn't look like I thought it would (i.e. it wouldn't have been very helpful).

I just got my system up and running and thought some of my info may help others.

P4P800 1009 bios

CPU 2.6c OC @ 266 to 3.45ghz
Sapphire 9800 OC to 248/230
Zalman CNPS7000A-AlCu (great fan!)
CPU running 80F by Asus probe. 105F after 4hrs of Prime95

DRAM Freq 266mhz
AGP/PCI Freq 72.73/36.36
Performance Standard

CPU vCore 1.55
AGP VDDQ 1.6
DDR Ref V 2.55
Cass 2-2-2-6
Ram Kingston HyperX PC3500 2X512
Graphics Aperture 128mb

TESTS

@3.42ghz
Aidia R - 4610
Aidia W - 1689

Sis Sandra
CPU Arith - 16872
CPU MM - 39836
MEM - 10237
Files - 30767
UT Flyby - 216
UT Bot - 83

@3.45ghz
Aidia R - 4653
Aidia W - 1729

Sis Sandra
CPU Arith - 17050
CPU MM - 40928
MEM - 10343
Files - 30767
UT Flyby - 226
UT Bot - 83

3dMark 2003 - 5261
Prime 95 Toture test 4.25 hrs @ 3.45ghz

I was able to boot at 3.57 but 3dmark kept hanging and Prime95 lasted about 10 minutes.
I sure it could be tweaked higher, but I'm happy with it for now.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: Revolutionary

Originally posted by: Slammy1
Here's an issue with ATA speed that a lot of people seem to be having:
Slow ATA Issue

I was curious if other people here have similar issues.

I had a similar problem, but with SATA, not PATA. I was getting around 32xxxkB/s in Sandra with PATA. I installed a Highpoint RocketRaid adapter on my Maxtor DM9+ 80G drive. It was lightning fast in Sandra for like a week, like 50xxxkB/s. Seriously, Sandra benched it as faster than a 2-drive ATA133 RAID array. Then suddenly, over night, it drops to about 17xxxkB/s. On SATA! I changed adapters, cables, and headers. No change. So I sent the thing back to the seller and am back on PATA getting about 31xxxkB/s.

To me its not worth the effort, but I'd love to know what the heck was going on there.

Yes, that's exactly the issue I face. I had it with my 80GB PATA, now my Raptor shows similar behavior.I bench between 30-34k with it now, but I see drops here and there. Still, for a Raptor 34k? I did a brand new Windows install, ran the exact same BIOS settings as when I'd run faster (my 80GB benched higher than the Raptor when I first got the board), even flashed my BIOS back to 1.006 but nothing works. I suppose on the bright side since a number of people are having the same issue, Asus will need to correct it. BIOS 1010.002 does not fix it, unfortunately. Do you run anything on your PATA raid? It seems to help to disable it if you don't use it.

 

[deci8]

Not getting any video. All brand new components.

Everything appears to be installed as it should be. The green light comes on. I've tried buffalo technology (winbond5) pc3700 as well as micron pc 2700 which are both supported. Still no video. I've tried clearing cmos/reseating cpu/hsf/ different video cards that i've tested in other machines and know to be working. Another thing thats odd is it doesn't beep at all, even when there is no ram in it. The speaker is hooked up. Seems to not beep at all regardless of anything. Any ideas? Should I just RMA it? I know the ram is good as well as the video cards. The only slot being used is for the video card. I've got a pair of raptors/cd burner/and a pair of 120gb wd se's hooked up. Its an antec case with an antec 430 watt true ps. The processor is a 2.6c retail that I just took out of the box.

 

[deci8]

Not getting any video. All brand new components.

Everything appears to be installed as it should be. The green light comes on. I've tried buffalo technology (winbond5) pc3700 as well as micron pc 2700 which are both supported. Still no video. I've tried clearing cmos/reseating cpu/hsf/ different video cards that i've tested in other machines and know to be working. Another thing thats odd is it doesn't beep at all, even when there is no ram in it. The speaker is hooked up. Seems to not beep at all regardless of anything. Any ideas? Should I just RMA it? I know the ram is good as well as the video cards. The only slot being used is for the video card. I've got a pair of raptors/cd burner/and a pair of 120gb wd se's hooked up. Its an antec case with an antec 430 watt true ps. The processor is a 2.6c retail that I just took out of the box.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: GrumpyBobSnip.

Wow, great rig. I'm surprised you had to drop to a 3:2 to run that. As you work on your o/c, I think you should be able to run that on a 5:4. I have 2X256MB, and I read on ABX that the newer HyperX do not o/c well, but it's rated for 217MHz. I have a 2.4C at 3.38 (Asus math ) with the HyperX at DDR 448. I upped the voltage to 2.85, but I found at some point VCore needed a little bit more. My timings are 2-3-3-7-8 (I bench better 2-3-3-7-4) and am stable to two instances of Prime95, Prime95 and 3dMark03 (I score 5450, drops me about 450 points), plus some multimedia/sound stability testing. Your temps are great, I max at 49C.

 

[Slammy1]

Definitely sounds like RMA time. Assuming you have a compatable video card, the only thing I can imagine is a bad AGP slot.

 

[deci8]

Thats what I was thinking too but I also tried a pci card to no avail. Think its just dead?

 

[Souji4]

Hey guys, I currently have the P4P800 Deluxe and Corsair's TwinX1024-3200C2. Except, I'm having some trouble getting stable settings, and RAM_GUY at Corsair's forum doesnt recommend this pair of sticks w/ the P4P800. So now I need to get new RAM.

I plan to OC a little bit (from 2.4 to around 2.8GHz) I was considering the Kingston HyperX 4000 (2x 512MB). Does anyone know if these will run without a hitch? The HyperX4000's are cheaper than the 3500's right now at Outpost btw.


PS Does anyone know why Asus's RAM compatibility table barely lists any RAM??! Is it out of date or what? I wish they had an INcompatibility table...

 

[GrumpyBob]

Slammy1,

I'm still unclear on some of the setting terms. When you say I am at 3:2 which setting are you referring to?
If it's CASS, I haven't tried any other settings, so I will try running the 2337 you suggested.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: GrumpyBob
Slammy1,

I'm still unclear on some of the setting terms. When you say I am at 3:2 which setting are you referring to?
If it's CASS, I haven't tried any other settings, so I will try running the 2337 you suggested.

3:2 is the 266MHz memory frequency, 5:4 is the 320. You definitely want to raise VDIMM to 2.75, if that's not stable I wouldn't be concerned raising it to 2.85 (I wouldn't do it unless I had to). You can also relax timings for a higher o/c. Here are my specs:

Overclock: Manual (280MHz = 3.38GHz)
Performance Mode: Standard
Memory Freq: 320MHz
Memory Accel: Enabled
DRAM Idle Timer &Refresh Rate: Auto
Mem 2-3-3-7-8
VDIMM: 2.85
VCORE: 1.55 (+0.05 over volt)

Deci, sounds like you know what you're doning, so please forgive me if this is basic. You've tried different monitors, electrical outlets? You're sure you don't have an errant standoff that might be shorting the board to the case? If it doesn't post any display no matter what, there seems to be the possibility it isn't the board. I'm much better if I have things in front of me so I can get a feel for what's happening, I wish I could help you more.

 

[jhites]

Originally posted by: Souji4
I plan to OC a little bit (from 2.4 to around 2.8GHz) I was considering the Kingston HyperX 4000 (2x 512MB). Does anyone know if these will run without a hitch? The HyperX4000's are cheaper than the 3500's right now at Outpost btw.

I have not heard anything about the new HyperX4000 but my HyperX3500 runs great on my P4C800 and P4P800. Both sets of HyperX3500 are the BH5 Winbond chips that I am using on these two boards. I believe that the HyperX4000 uses the CH5 chips which apparently does not get the timings that the BH5 chips run.

 

[deci8]

Slammy, I have another computer hooked up to that monitor. Plugged it in just to verifiy it worked and it does. It could be shorting I guess. Not really sure what to look for in that case. The antec case came with the standoffs already on. I've screwed it into 2 standoffs and its secure. How would it be shorting it out if even possible. Don't know much about the whole shorting out thing.

Thanks

 

[Braxus]

Anyone getting multiple_irp_complete_requests errors when installing XP using the onboard ICH raid controller?

Using two Seagate Cuda 7200.7s. BIOS 1009.

 

[paunja]

Anyone has problem with the 3Com network adapter?

Sometimes it will not detect the connection at all when I start the pc.
Either I have to reboot the pc until it detects it or reboot my router once. I have done clean installation on the latest driver and unchecked the sleeping mode option for the network card. Could this a defective mobo? Please advise.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: deci8
Slammy, I have another computer hooked up to that monitor. Plugged it in just to verifiy it worked and it does. It could be shorting I guess. Not really sure what to look for in that case. The antec case came with the standoffs already on. I've screwed it into 2 standoffs and its secure. How would it be shorting it out if even possible. Don't know much about the whole shorting out thing.

Thanks

The stand off issue is just a common mistake. You have to remove all stand offs not in use, it was about the only thing I could think of that's not a MoBo RMA scenario. About the only other advice I can give is to contact your video card manufacturer to make sure there's no known issue, but you've been thorough in troubleshooting so I'm guessing you already have. You can write Asus tech support, and maybe in a month they'll respond (they kinda suck, which is why I try to share whatever knowledge I have).

As far as the 3Com. Yes, many issues, several reinstalls. I think I have it all sorted now after flashing my BIOS about 2-3 times for each update. Try to disable the RAID in Windows (through control panel) and see if that solves it. Some sort of conflict there, and although it appears unrelated, an update of the Intel Chipset software (available on Asus web site) might help. Just one of several HD/Bus issues with this board. Welcome to P4P800.

Whenever I get a windows error, I search for it in Microsoft's knowledge base. Very useful site, I recommend book marking it.

Microsoft Knowledge Base

Good luck everyone!

 

[Freejack2]

Just installed my P4P800. So far so good but I still have to re-overclock my cpu. Didn't even have to reinstall XP. Just had to reinstall the intel chipset software again. Hopefully this board doesn't have the sb audigy/raid conflicts like my p4pe did.
I did run into some problems with my board not booting up initially. I think it was because I plugged the keyboard into the mouse port though. Oops.

I also did the usual things. Pulled off everything but the video card. Fortunately I didn't have to go as far as pulling the mboard out of the case.

 

[Garfield3d]

Hiyas everyone! I'm... new here so if I stay a few truisms and miss others in the same sentence, then there will probably be a lot more such sentences.

Before I launch into my tirade, I guess I'll lay out the computer specs:
P4 2.8C
Asus P4P800 Deluxe
Zalman 7000-AlCu (Temperatures between 32C and 37C)
Corsair 512MB PC3200
120 GB Western Digital Serial ATA (WD1200JD)
Radeon 9800 Non-Pro
Audigy 2

Two weeks ago I put a new computer together based off of the Asus P4P800 Deluxe motherboard. Since the motherboard was recieving good reviews, I was happy. The computer turned on and I was still happy. When I started to poke at the BIOS I became unhappy. I'm hoping if any of you can shed some light to my issues.

First, reading through this thread, it seems as though a lot of people are leaving Performance Acceleration Mode to "Auto" and never enabling it. Likewise, when I try to enable Performance Acceleration Mode, Windows won't boot up. Has anyone had any success with enabling Performance Acceleration Mode?

Secondly, I'm running on Corsair XMS PC3200. I know Corsair's had a good reputation for being overclockable and reliable, but apparently the P4P800 seems to grind with Corsair RAM and several posts on this board seem to confirm it. Whenever I run at 2-3-3-6, the computer tends to crash intermittently. Sometimes I'll get a BSOD too. Is this... um, normal? Corsair usually carries a price premium with their RAM and I was expecting it to be fairly overclockable, but I can't squeeze across very aggressive timings on the RAM. Have I been handed a weak RAM stick or motherboard, or am I just going to have to be conservative with the RAM? What are the timings that everyone with Corsair PC3200 is using for the P4P800? Memory Acceleration Mode is enabled too.

Finally, I've discovered that my system can't seem to overclock worth crap. I'm a bit new to the specifics of overclocking, so I might need someone to hold my paw and walk me through this.
I'm trying to run the CPU and RAM synchronously 1:1, but I can't get past a FSB of 210 without Windows crashing on loadup. After kicking the wall in an attempt to motivate the computer to stabilize, I decided ask here for help before frying something. Many other people seem to get into the 3.0 Ghz range very easily. Even the ones who complain about getting a bad chip reach 3.0+ Ghz with relative ease. I think I'm missing something. I've backed the RAM to SPD but I haven't messed around with the Vcore or voltage settings to other parts of the computer. I was hoping I could nudge the CPU clockspeed up by at least 100 Mhz before needing to play with voltage settings. Do you guys have any recommendations on common voltage settings to overclock with stability? Or do you guys think that the Vcore might not even be my problem and I need to play with the RAM timings or other motherboard settings? This is the first time that I've overclocked a P4 firsthand, so I'm a bit cautious and I would greatly appreciate any info that anyone can provide.

 

[jhites]

Turn PAM off (Auto)
Your going to have a very tough time getting 1:1 over fsb 210 = DDR420 with DDR400 PC3200 Ram.

Under the Advanced Tab
DRAM Frequency - Change to 320
AGP/PCI Frequency - Change to 66/33 fixed
CPU Vcore Voltage - Change to 1.55v
DDR Reference Voltage - Change to 2.75v
AGPVDDQ Voltage - Change to 1.6v
Performance Mode [Auto]

Under the Advanced/Chipset
Change to Manual from SPD and play with the timings
Leave PAM set to Auto
Idle Timer set to Infinite
Refresh Rate set to 64usec

Welcome to AT Forums

 

[Souji4]

Originally posted by: Garfield3dHiyas everyone! I'm... new here so if I stay a few truisms and miss others in the same sentence, then there will probably be a lot more such sentences.

Before I launch into my tirade, I guess I'll lay out the computer specs:
P4 2.8C
Asus P4P800 Deluxe
Zalman 7000-AlCu (Temperatures between 32C and 37C)
Corsair 512MB PC3200
120 GB Western Digital Serial ATA (WD1200JD)
Radeon 9800 Non-Pro
Audigy 2

Two weeks ago I put a new computer together based off of the Asus P4P800 Deluxe motherboard. Since the motherboard was recieving good reviews, I was happy. The computer turned on and I was still happy. When I started to poke at the BIOS I became unhappy. I'm hoping if any of you can shed some light to my issues.

First, reading through this thread, it seems as though a lot of people are leaving Performance Acceleration Mode to "Auto" and never enabling it. Likewise, when I try to enable Performance Acceleration Mode, Windows won't boot up. Has anyone had any success with enabling Performance Acceleration Mode?

Secondly, I'm running on Corsair XMS PC3200. I know Corsair's had a good reputation for being overclockable and reliable, but apparently the P4P800 seems to grind with Corsair RAM and several posts on this board seem to confirm it. Whenever I run at 2-3-3-6, the computer tends to crash intermittently. Sometimes I'll get a BSOD too. Is this... um, normal? Corsair usually carries a price premium with their RAM and I was expecting it to be fairly overclockable, but I can't squeeze across very aggressive timings on the RAM. Have I been handed a weak RAM stick or motherboard, or am I just going to have to be conservative with the RAM? What are the timings that everyone with Corsair PC3200 is using for the P4P800? Memory Acceleration Mode is enabled too.

Finally, I've discovered that my system can't seem to overclock worth crap. I'm a bit new to the specifics of overclocking, so I might need someone to hold my paw and walk me through this.
I'm trying to run the CPU and RAM synchronously 1:1, but I can't get past a FSB of 210 without Windows crashing on loadup. After kicking the wall in an attempt to motivate the computer to stabilize, I decided ask here for help before frying something. Many other people seem to get into the 3.0 Ghz range very easily. Even the ones who complain about getting a bad chip reach 3.0+ Ghz with relative ease. I think I'm missing something. I've backed the RAM to SPD but I haven't messed around with the Vcore or voltage settings to other parts of the computer. I was hoping I could nudge the CPU clockspeed up by at least 100 Mhz before needing to play with voltage settings. Do you guys have any recommendations on common voltage settings to overclock with stability? Or do you guys think that the Vcore might not even be my problem and I need to play with the RAM timings or other motherboard settings? This is the first time that I've overclocked a P4 firsthand, so I'm a bit cautious and I would greatly appreciate any info that anyone can provide.

Garfield3d, exactly which RAM do you have? the 3200LL or 3200C2? I have the 3200C2 and it's horrible at OCing. Don't even try OCing w/ a 1:1 ratio...it simply won't work. I can't even OC my FSB by 5MHz using 1:1. And if you read through Corsair's forums, you will quickly find that there may be an issue w/ Asus's BIOS and Corsair RAM. It seems that there is a problem with USB Legacy support and the RAM not grinding well. So for starters, disable USB Legacy. Next, the RAM needs to run at 2.75V. They even recommend it at those settings and it will not void your warranty. Try that for now and let me know how it goes.

As for me, I just ordered some Kingson HyperX4000...hopefully that works, I'll keep you guys posted.

 

[RDub]

 

[RDub]

Lets try this again.

I am OC'g my 2.4c @ 3.02 on a P4P800 Deluxe.

FSB = 250
Vcore = 1.525
Mem mhz = 320
VAGP = 1.6
AGP/PCI = 66/33
Vmem = 2.85
PAM = Turbo
MAM = Enabled
Corsair PC3700 TwinMos 1 GB
cas 2.5-4-4-8-4
2xRaptors Raid 0

I am new at overclocking and want to confirm what I doing. With the memort set at 320 mhz this gives me the 5:4 ratio. If this is true, then shouldn't I be able to increase my fsb to 287 before I reach my memory's ceiling?

As I increase myFSB what do I need to consider adjusting the cas timings to keep the system stable.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: RDub
Lets try this again.

I am OC'g my 2.4c @ 3.02 on a P4P800 Deluxe.

FSB = 250
Vcore = 1.525
Mem mhz = 320
VAGP = 1.6
AGP/PCI = 66/33
Vmem = 2.85
PAM = Turbo
MAM = Enabled
Corsair PC3700 TwinMos 1 GB
cas 2.5-4-4-8-4
2xRaptors Raid 0

I am new at overclocking and want to confirm what I doing. With the memort set at 320 mhz this gives me the 5:4 ratio. If this is true, then shouldn't I be able to increase my fsb to 287 before I reach my memory's ceiling?

As I increase myFSB what do I need to consider adjusting the cas timings to keep the system stable.

You should change performance mode to standard, though I'm pretty sure it's disabled already for your settings. VCore and VDIMM leave to default unless stability testing indicates you need more. I know some video cards perform better w/ a VAGP increase, but I have more success o/c'ing with Rage3d for my 9700Pro. Chances are you'll need to raise VDIMM to 2.75V, maybe 2.85, but that's more of a finishing item rather than a starting item. I would first see how far you can push your memory on a 1:1. Do you run stock cooling? I wouldn't take it much further (if at all) if you do. Start w/ your memory by Spd and focus on the FSB.

On a 1:1 (400MHz memory frequency), try running at your memory's rated speed and timings (225MHz FSB) with 2.75V VDIMM and default VCore. If stable, good, if not try a slight increase to VCore. Check stability as follows:
Run a single instance of Prime 95 for ca 15 minutes to get an idea of max temp. Keep it below 65 whatever you do, below that it's how much risk and stress you want. I keep things below 50C max, but I'm more cautious than most. If that don't work, lower the VCore and raise the VDIMM. Different units of the same CPU/memory will show different performances, you're looking for your limits. Once you have a single instance of Prime95 going to see max temp, run another instance of Prime95 from Start->Run... For me the command is F:\Utilities\Prime95\Prime95.exe -a1, it will change for you depending where it's installed. After a few hours, if you've had no errors it can be considered stable. I do more, but that should cover most issues you might have. Then increase the FSB slightly (2-5MHz, depending how easily everything runs) and repeat stability testing. Also, benchmark each stable point and keep records of your results. You shouldn't have to increase VCore too much, I just nudged it a bit to run 280FSB on m 2.4C. On my system, VDIMM was the main adjustment. Keep VDIMM w/in 0.3V of specs. Repeat process on a 5:4.

 

[RDub]

When do you figure in the cas memory settings?

I noticed you were at 2-3-3-7-8. Right now I am set at 2.5-4-4-8-4.

 

[Slammy1]

Well, actually earlier than I'd indicated. It complicates the simple approach. Instaed of increased voltage you can set you memory low (like your settings) to see how far you can go. With my o/c, I found myself CPU limited rather than RAM. I can go higher, but as I get to higher clocks I'm very cautious. I'll tighten the timings rather than see how far I can push the CPU, though with these boards it's pretty much all about how powerful your CPU and video are. For example, I can run 285 with slightly reduced timings at the same settings, but at this point I want to make sure there are no unforeseen problems. No matter how much you test stability, there's the chance you'll miss something. I gain a bit on CPU, lose a bit memory. Figure the highest o/c without extreme cooling is 3.6GHz. The harder question is which is right for you. What runs your apps best, that's the hardest thing about o/c'ing. Finding that balance. Play around with the scheme I indicated, it'll get you close to your highest o/c. The loosen or tighten timings, see if you can go further or optimize the present o/c by tightening them. Run Prime95 2 instances for short term testing (your ultimate o/c will bee 2 steps behind where you see the failure by this method typically). It's all about the journey, not the destination. Learn your board by learning its limits and limitations. Otherwise, it's all reduced to a me > you competition.