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century child

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Originally posted by: Shaga
Originally posted by: DangerMouse
Well i came to a few interesting conclusions:
Seems that my OCZ 3700 EB simply not able to run in 1:1 mode.
When i set DDR400 in bios which supposedly forces 1:1 according to this thread
my comp is not stable even if i significantly underclock it and 3v on Dimm doesnt help as well.
On the other hand when i set memory to AUTO , CPU freq to 233 dimm to 2.9 then comp is
rock solid at 233x9 with 6:5 ratio. If i raise multiplier to 10 stability issues pop up.
Finally i found stable combo but its only 2.1Ghz :(
So folx what you think its bad memory or bad Cpu? (Newcastle 3500)

I have exactly the same thing. Best combo for me has been 11x218. Which doesn't give too much power but brings best results with superpi and with pifast. Please if someone could aid us both, I would be very grateful. Thanks already. This is my main problem with this mobo.

Regards, Shaga

Have you been in contact with OCZ yet? They allegedly have very good support. I think they have a user forum somewhere. That would probably be your best bet.
 

Shaga

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Originally posted by: century child
Originally posted by: Shaga
Originally posted by: DangerMouse
Well i came to a few interesting conclusions:
Seems that my OCZ 3700 EB simply not able to run in 1:1 mode.
When i set DDR400 in bios which supposedly forces 1:1 according to this thread
my comp is not stable even if i significantly underclock it and 3v on Dimm doesnt help as well.
On the other hand when i set memory to AUTO , CPU freq to 233 dimm to 2.9 then comp is
rock solid at 233x9 with 6:5 ratio. If i raise multiplier to 10 stability issues pop up.
Finally i found stable combo but its only 2.1Ghz :(
So folx what you think its bad memory or bad Cpu? (Newcastle 3500)

I have exactly the same thing. Best combo for me has been 11x218. Which doesn't give too much power but brings best results with superpi and with pifast. Please if someone could aid us both, I would be very grateful. Thanks already. This is my main problem with this mobo.

Regards, Shaga

Have you been in contact with OCZ yet? They allegedly have very good support. I think they have a user forum somewhere. That would probably be your best bet.

I have exactly the same problem, but DangerMouse has OCZ.. and I do have Kingston. So I think it's not about memory.
 
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Hmm if its not memory then it leaves cpu , mobo and psu.
In one week or so i will get cpu replaced by Winchester which i initially ordered
but was wrongly handed Newcastle. So CPU issue should be cleared out soon.
If it is PSU issue then it is indeed very strange because despite
Antec 430 Truepower being pretty moderate it is still quality brand with strong +12v rail.
I just dont see how power issues could raise with my rig having only
6600Gt 1 hd and 1 optical drive. Asus site states even 350Watt psu with +12v/17A
should suffice.
My mobo is A3 revision and it should be ok.
Totally puzzled.
Wasted loads of cash on this thing and it is not operational :(
 

Shaga

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I was planning on getting winchester as well, and I thought I'm getting one. I hope it's not about this newcastle because I can't change this. Site where I did order this didn't mention anything about is this 130 or 90(newcastle or winchester). Bought this 1½ week ago. I have 400w psu and that should be enough. Anyway, that would be easily tested by disconencting all hds and other stuff but I think it's not about it. I have only one gf6600gt and one dvd-drive. I don't even have floppy drive.

I think we are just doing something wrong.. :< Wasted tons of cash as well for this.


ADDED:
How 1:1 is exactly being made?
 

RallyKid

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I can only get 2310 Stable, 210 FSB

AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 3500+, 90nm
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
OCZ Gold Edition Rev2 Dual Channel Kit 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-4000
Swiftech H20-120-T Water Cooling
2 X Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, RAID 0
2 X nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT
ENERMAX Noisetaker Series 420W Power Supply
Cooler Master Centurion Case
Win XP SP2
BIOS 1003-005
 

JMag

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I think the way you can differentiate between a couple of the error types is if you get a BSOD w/ a mem dump error. This means there is some failure at the memory - motherboard - cpu mem controller level (unfortunatley all three take part in the memory subsystem, so you can only blame individual components if you have tested the rest in other systems at higher speeds)

I seem to have no prob getting 2.5 CAS now... (which is weird, maybe it was just cause I was trying to set CAS in A64 Tweaker, which crashed me everytime although I can chnage all the other settings)

Anyway I am able to pull 239.6mhz @ 2.5-3-3-9 1t @ 2.7-2.9v w/ HTT 288 x3 = 2.66Ghz CPU with a 5:6 divider (set the mem to 333 in BIOS)

If I push to 240.2 on the memory at 1t I will instantly get a BSOD with memory dump errors... This memory of mine can do WAY more than htis, so it is definatley the MB or CPU mem controller (although I have heard form others on diff forums that 240 is the limit for their board at 1t also)

However, no matter what my clock settings, timings, voltages, and component varaitions I STILL get seemingly random "turn-offs". Sometimes it will be in an hour or two... Sometimes it will be in just a few mintues... I don't think it is a PSU prob cause my whole system including the monitor is only drawing 260watts IDLE ( I haven't really been stressing it too much except for the occasional sandra / prime run)

 
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Jmag your system just completely shuts down or simply reboots itself?
I still didnt encounter self initiated shutdown on my system.
Shaga: Acoording to this thread (kudos to Guitardaddy) only way to make 1:1 is to
set Dimm to DDR400 in bios regardless of what type of ram you have got.
After that one can adjust cpu freq and multipliers.
Unfortunately my comp simply not tolerates manual setting to ddr400 even with
200x9.
 

harvgill

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Anyone playing World of Warcraft with two cards. Unless I'm overlooking something, I think this is one of those games that does worse with SLI enabled. Doom and Half Life love SLI.
 

JMag

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Originally posted by: DangerMouse
Jmag your system just completely shuts down or simply reboots itself?
I still didnt encounter self initiated shutdown on my system.
Shaga: Acoording to this thread (kudos to Guitardaddy) only way to make 1:1 is to
set Dimm to DDR400 in bios regardless of what type of ram you have got.
After that one can adjust cpu freq and multipliers.
Unfortunately my comp simply not tolerates manual setting to ddr400 even with
200x9.


Yep it completely shuts down. Sometimes, I will leave it on and go into the living room for a while and come back to find that everything is turned off...

I have some options to try to solve this issue, but I really don't feel like moving my desk to another part of the room to use a different outlet. The outlet my computer is connected to currently is controlled by a wall switch, so maybe that has something to do with it. I guess I oculd always go grab an extension cable, but I don't want one of thoose orange bastards in my room.

The only components I haven't swapped with others is my CPU and my PSU (well I guess my powerstrip too... )

I have tried My OCZ Ram, Corsair Ram, about 6 differnt hard drives, 2 different CD/DVD drives ( I even updated the firmware on both), 2 brands of 6800GT's (XFX and BFG), 4 BIOS revisions (1002 and 1003.003 - .005) So far nothing has solved the random shutdown issue... but then again I didn't think they would... I have a feeling it is motherboard related actually...

I have a PowerAngel hooked into the outlet I am drawing my power from and it shows usually 120V sometimes 121V coming fomr the outlet, but thats well within spec... The Hertz seems normal at 59... So my theory of a bad wall outlet looks kinda mute... I shoudl probably get a UPS anyway though...





 

JMag

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Originally posted by: harvgill
Anyone playing World of Warcraft with two cards. Unless I'm overlooking something, I think this is one of those games that does worse with SLI enabled. Doom and Half Life love SLI.


Why would one need SLI for this? WoW isn't that intensive...
 

harvgill

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Originally posted by: JMag
Originally posted by: harvgill
Anyone playing World of Warcraft with two cards. Unless I'm overlooking something, I think this is one of those games that does worse with SLI enabled. Doom and Half Life love SLI.


Why would one need SLI for this? WoW isn't that intensive...



I realize it's not as 'graphical' as Doom and such, but if you crank up the AF and AA (1600x), it gets pretty slow. Anyway, I just wanted to know if it was normal for this game to be slower with SLI enabled. I don't want to keep disabling SLI when I play this game and then re-enable for others. It would be ok without the restarts. Or is there another way, using a different profile with different settings? Should that "single-gpu, multi-gpu" setting have an effect. I didn't notice.
 

genemd

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OK Century and DM
I will look at voltages with Asus Probe when I get home tonite. Memtest puts the CPU at a constant 100% utilization which should be plenty of load. In fact, I have not been able to run memtest all the way thru my 1 GB memory before shutdown - 80% is the most I have got thru.
 

Cy6nUsX1

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Hi there...I have joined the crew because I am about to receive enough parts to build an A8N-SLI Deluxe based box.

By this coming Monday I will have:
A8N-SLI Deluxe
XFX 6800GT PCI-EX, 256MB
1 Stick GEIL 1gig PC-3200 RAM (GE1GB3200BSC) -I know now that I need 2 sticks to run dual channel :-(
AMD XP64 3500+
Aopen DVD/CD burner
Noisetaker 485W PS
Enermax CSX656TA-B Case

I will be re-using my two 120Gig Maxtors 7200rpms on IDE-0 -- maybe a RAID 0 setup?
Maybe I can even get my old ATI-TV Wonder PCI card in it too?
I'm not sure if I will use the old Creative SB Value or the onboard sound?

WinXP SP2 or WinXP 64 Beta?

This is about my fourth PC build and definitely the highest strung PC I will have ever built.

Anyone have any "heads up's" for me? Should I just stick the 1G Geil in there, return it for two 512's, or get some faster RAM?

I will be gaming mostly; Unreal, DoD, Doom, Far Cry, driving sims, Half-Life, and maybe evetually be recording HDTV like a "TIVO" setup.

Thanks.....Dave
 

Wombath

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Hi to all!

I wonder if anyone has found a working solution to the CPU voltage problem - like i can not set my 3000+ above 1.45 Volts.
Ntune says, CPU voltage setting failed
AiBooster does nothing,
Clockgen says 1.45 is the maximum

now, if i set it in the BIOS, then no matter what i set, i get the voltage around 1.45 Volts - it fluctuates a little, though :)

This is quite annoying, since it limits the OC options...
 

PSU Fan

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Originally posted by: goezer
I'm encountering problems enabling the multiple-gpu option. I have an ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE and two MSI 6600GT.

Everything has been installed with the standard drivers and bios (1003). Everything seems to work (sound etc) i can play games (Doom 3 etc) but when i go to enable the mulitple-gpu option and press apply i get a message saying that any monitor in the secondary video card will be blank after restart. I click "Ok" and the multiple-gpu option is deselected. I restart the computer and it is still deselected.

This has teh feel of a software/driver/bios issue to it, but i could be wrong.. Did anyone else encounter something similar to this problem as it is annoying me to no end..... :(

I'm with you on this one, Goezer...same situation...hardware setup per the instructions, XP detects the 2 cards and asks if I want to enable dual-GPU, I click on the check-box, get the message, hit "OK", message disappears, check-box clears, no re-boot...no dual-GPU, sigh.

I'm afraid that I'm detecting a pattern here because I'm also using identical MSI cards...vanilla 6800's (TD256-E). I sent them a query yesterday asking whether these cards were actually verified to function in SLI mode and what mobo was used. The answer was basically, "yes they have been verified" and "not using the ASUS A8N-SLI mobo". Doesn't get us any closer, but it is another data point.
 

JMag

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Originally posted by: Wombath
Hi to all!

I wonder if anyone has found a working solution to the CPU voltage problem - like i can not set my 3000+ above 1.45 Volts.
Ntune says, CPU voltage setting failed
AiBooster does nothing,
Clockgen says 1.45 is the maximum

now, if i set it in the BIOS, then no matter what i set, i get the voltage around 1.45 Volts - it fluctuates a little, though :)

This is quite annoying, since it limits the OC options...


First off what BIOS are you using? I am using 1003.005.
2ndly Clockgen isn't reporting the actual Voltage, but you can use it to up your voltage. Select the dropdown menu and choose like 1.5 then click the apply to VID button. Use clockgen 1.02 cause I had crashing errors with previous versions.
After you do that use CPU-Z to detect the core voltage. I can get mine over 1.6 when changing the VID with clockgen.
 

SMatson

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I am currently running on a C: drive that is a PATA 250MB 7200 spin and want to install the OS on two 300GB Maxtor 16MB drives in RAID 0.

Any simple instructions on making a RAID?

After I enable the RAID in BIOS do I reinstall the OS on it?

Do I need the floppy drive because mine is not working right?

Simple Steps would be real helpful.

Thanks,

Scott
 

chexi

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Anybody else have problems installing AI Booster? I keep getting an IO error when trying to install this program. It worked for me before, but I had to reinstall Windows XP for another reason, and now I get the IO error on the install???:confused:
 

atom519

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Ok guys, need some help here. Have had my computer up and running for the week with no problems at stock speed.

However, tonight I decided to reboot and do a scandisk. Well, during scandisk it found quite a few things which I thought was unusual, it rebooted and I got back to windows.

Only to find my internet not working at all. It was working flawlessly, and I had not had a problem with it prior to this. I'm using the on-board network adapters, and they will both just say "Acquiring network address" . I've tried both the nvidia one and the other, and both give the same message. It's not our connection either, as I am currently on my roomates computer with no troubles at all.

I've tried pretty much everything I can think of. Tried to reinstall drivers for both adapters, tried reinstalling windows networking protocols and services, ran the network setup wizard, switched nic cables, reset the router, attempted to ping a ip, release and renew ip in dos, and I can't even access the router from my computer either.

Any ideas??? I'm stumped on this one and can't figure out what scandisk did to screw up my connection. I would get BSOD when overclocking, so I just decided to keep it at stock until this happend. Think it's windows messing with something and I should reformat (sigh)? Somehow I don't think getting a network card would work either.

Any help would be appreciated.....thanks guys!
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: SMatson
I am currently running on a C: drive that is a PATA 250MB 7200 spin and want to install the OS on two 300GB Maxtor 16MB drives in RAID 0.

Any simple instructions on making a RAID?

After I enable the RAID in BIOS do I reinstall the OS on it?

Do I need the floppy drive because mine is not working right?

Simple Steps would be real helpful.

Thanks,

Scott

Yes you must create a floppy from the mobo CD
The following instructions are how I set up raid using the NVraid controller

After connecting the drives to the NV sata port, boot and enter bios. Make sure that the two drives are recognized and show on the main bios page. If they aren't showing you will have to clear CMOS by removing the battery and moving the jumper for a few seconds as described in the mobo manual. Reboot and they should now be showing. (I had to do this, I was also running on a single drive before I setup raid.)

Once the drives show on your main page, enable raid and enable the ports that you connect the drives to, exit bios and hit F10 to enter the NVraid setup. Both of the drives will show in the left panel, select each drive which moves them over to the right panel. Select striping (raid0) Hit F7 to create the array. The next screen should show the "healthy" array and display the total size, at this screen hit B to change the "bootable" indicator to yes. Ctrl X to exit the the raid setup, at the first opportunity reboot the machine and enter bios. Go to the boot priority section and set the priority to 1 CD, 2 (raid array).

Put the widows CD in, reboot and "hit any key to boot from CD". When windows setup displays the message, hit F6 to load third party raid drivers. When prompted insert the diskette that you made. Windows will display the two driver files on the diskette "NVraid driver" and "Sata controller driver".
Select the first one and hit S, it will return you to the same screen. Select the second file and hit S again.
Once both files are shown at the top of the page hit enter. Windows setup will continue loading files and will come to the screen asking where you want to install windows. Select your array which will show as unpartioned space. It will ask if you want to format, say yes. Windows will format the array and complete the window installation.

Reboot and your ready to go!

Hope this helps
 

goezer

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I also sent a message to MSI and ASUS a couple of days ago, but I have not heard anything... yet....

A question for the group, has anyone got this to work with MSI cards yet?????

If they have what version of drives and bios are they using. Are they using SP2 or SP1 for WinXP?

Help.... Please.......
 

Wombath

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Originally posted by: JMag
Originally posted by: Wombath
Hi to all!

I wonder if anyone has found a working solution to the CPU voltage problem - like i can not set my 3000+ above 1.45 Volts.
Ntune says, CPU voltage setting failed
AiBooster does nothing,
Clockgen says 1.45 is the maximum

now, if i set it in the BIOS, then no matter what i set, i get the voltage around 1.45 Volts - it fluctuates a little, though :)

This is quite annoying, since it limits the OC options...


First off what BIOS are you using? I am using 1003.005.
2ndly Clockgen isn't reporting the actual Voltage, but you can use it to up your voltage. Select the dropdown menu and choose like 1.5 then click the apply to VID button. Use clockgen 1.02 cause I had crashing errors with previous versions.
After you do that use CPU-Z to detect the core voltage. I can get mine over 1.6 when changing the VID with clockgen.

I am using 1003.005 also. Thank you very much - i was able to raise the VID with this method. Now, wouldn't it be nice to have Asus release a working AiBooster?:)
 

Shaga

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Now using 240x10 at 1:1. Is that good enough? What do you think?

Now that you did bring motherboards network adapters to this discussion, I have something to say about it. I can't install nvidia network access manager(firewall) without errors because of some system tray dlls missing or something. And because of that, network access manager won't get any system tray icon for easy controlling of firewall.

When I had firewall on, it blocked everything so that network couldn't work, uninstalling network access manager seemed to work everytime. But now I don't even get my ass to webinterface after installing network access manager(I'm trying because I'd love to get that one work).
 

Shaga

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And how do you use ntune? Does it save settings to bios? I overclock and if I like the results.. I run ntune always with autotuning settings.

EDIT: I chose 218x11+auto-ntune to be my overclock setting. Pifast gives me best results.
 

Shaga

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Originally posted by: chexi
Anybody else have problems installing AI Booster? I keep getting an IO error when trying to install this program. It worked for me before, but I had to reinstall Windows XP for another reason, and now I get the IO error on the install???:confused:

none problems, but starting webupdated version of asus update gives me software errors.

EDIT: sorry for this many posts, I'm not in best shape at mornings ;)