*** Official Anti War Protestor Thread***SanFrancisco, No Business as Usual....

[Ornery]

...you'd want to kill or harm them...

Here's what I said:

• ...the cops, national guard or whoever polices this crap should have zero tolerance for breaking the law. Arrest as many as possible. Cost the arrested tons of money and time. Perhaps even try to recoup costs via fines. If need be, throw the fvckers in some type of internment camp till they can be processed. This ONLY applies to those breaking the law, and again, ZERO tolerance! :frown:
  
  Tape the whole scene, so that there's no wiggle room for the law breakers. We've got to reverse the riot defense, so that it favors police, rather than rioters. If they happen to get a little rough... hey, it's a riot. That's to be expected, right?

 

[RainDowg]

Ornery, I said that in parenthesis so as to not single you out. I wan't pointing at you. I read what you wrote. It was for the others who did say things like that.

 

[Ornery]

Don't worry, if somebody kicked or scratched my car, I'd want to kill or harm them!

 

[cakin]

While on a plane today, I heard someone say that North Korea now has the ability to launch a missile that could hit the West Coast.

SO? Whats the harm in that - would we lose anything if the left coast was hit?

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: cakin
While on a plane today, I heard someone say that North Korea now has the ability to launch a missile that could hit the West Coast.

SO? Whats the harm in that - would we lose anything if the left coast was hit?

I suppose since you're from Oklahoma it's hard to imagine states that actually have some value. I know nothing happens in Oklahoma and there's not much to look at, but it's not like that everywhere.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: cakin
While on a plane today, I heard someone say that North Korea now has the ability to launch a missile that could hit the West Coast.

SO? Whats the harm in that - would we lose anything if the left coast was hit?

If they did that, North Korea would be a huge crater on the globe. We have 4 nuclear submarines near Korea.

 

[LocutusX]

Anti-War Reporting Banned in UK Papers

... supposedly!

Here is a the link, you can make up your own minds:
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[CZroe]

Any protestors who think Bush made the wrong decidion to attack Iraq need to understand this...


You have made your decision.

Bush has made his decision.

You disagree with Bush.

Yes or no?

The CIA reports to Bush.

The CIA does not report to you.

Yes or no?

It's no secret that Bush has information you don't.

Bush has therefore made a more informed decision.

Yes or no? (Never mind... You CANNOT dispute this.)

It's no secret that it is information you can't have.

He was elected to make this decision based on his information.

If your decision would be different, keep in mind that you are currently not as well informed as the president.

You must trust that he secretly knows more than you about the situation and can make a better decision with that information.

After all, those that gave him this information unanimously support and recommended the idea.

It was his decision, not his idea.



DO NOT fall into the increasingly common mindset that "Just because my decision is different that the president's I must be smarter than him and the majority of US supporters." This is the lie that the democratic media and free speech has enticed so many to accept. Logically, it feels good to be smarter than the president so you may convince yourself that you are but you are simply working with less information.

 

[KennyH]

Have You Forgotten?
(Darryl Worley/Wynn Varble)
I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fighting for
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

Thanks for posting this, it is truly a great song, check it out peeps

 

[flavio]

Al Queada was responsible for 9/11. Hussein is not Al Queada or even muslim.

That song is stupid.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: CZroe
Any protestors who think Bush made the wrong decidion to attack Iraq need to understand this...


You have made your decision.

Bush has made his decision.

You disagree with Bush.

Yes or no?

The CIA reports to Bush.

The CIA does not report to you.

Yes or no?

It's no secret that Bush has information you don't.

Bush has therefore made a more informed decision.

Yes or no? (Never mind... You CANNOT dispute this.)

It's no secret that it is information you can't have.

He was elected to make this decision based on his information.

If your decision would be different, keep in mind that you are currently not as well informed as the president.

You must trust that he secretly knows more than you about the situation and can make a better decision with that information.

After all, those that gave him this information unanimously support and recommended the idea.

It was his decision, not his idea.



DO NOT fall into the increasingly common mindset that "Just because my decision is different that the president's I must be smarter than him and the majority of US supporters." This is the lie that the democratic media and free speech has enticed so many to accept. Logically, it feels good to be smarter than the president so you may convince yourself that you are but you are simply working with less information.

I hope you never disagree with a decision the president makes, because this argument can be applied to anything. "If you disagree, you don't have enough information." May as well roll over and let the government run your life. It is the RESPONSIBILITY of the American public to question the decisions of its leaders, and if they disagree, protest and vote those leaders out.

 

[Moonbeam]

PipBoy, you are a religious fanatic. I don't believe in Bush's integrety or honesty or humanity. I don't trust his judgment or his ability to manipulate complex information at all. I am a skeptic. Sorry.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
PipBoy, you are a religious fanatic. I don't believe in Bush's integrety or honesty or humanity. I don't trust his judgment or his ability to manipulate complex information at all. I am a skeptic. Sorry.

I don't understand where this is coming from, either the sarcasm is too extreme for my small mind or you didn't get my point!

 

[flavio]

Probably meant CZroe

 

[Mill]

flavio- Do you have the scans of alternative plans yet?

 

[joohang]

Originally posted by: CZroe
Any protestors who think Bush made the wrong decidion to attack Iraq need to understand this...


You have made your decision.

Bush has made his decision.

You disagree with Bush.

Yes or no?

The CIA reports to Bush.

The CIA does not report to you.

Yes or no?

It's no secret that Bush has information you don't.

Bush has therefore made a more informed decision.

Yes or no? (Never mind... You CANNOT dispute this.)

It's no secret that it is information you can't have.

He was elected to make this decision based on his information.

If your decision would be different, keep in mind that you are currently not as well informed as the president.

You must trust that he secretly knows more than you about the situation and can make a better decision with that information.

After all, those that gave him this information unanimously support and recommended the idea.

It was his decision, not his idea.



DO NOT fall into the increasingly common mindset that "Just because my decision is different that the president's I must be smarter than him and the majority of US supporters." This is the lie that the democratic media and free speech has enticed so many to accept. Logically, it feels good to be smarter than the president so you may convince yourself that you are but you are simply working with less information.

While I agree with you, such mindset is equally dangerous.

But then that's how our current form of democracy works. People think that they have voice more than what they have.

 

[Moonbeam]

PipBoy, I thought your quote was your post and your post a part of your sig which I did not read. You are not only not a religious fanatic, apparently, but quite correct with what you said. Sorry.

 

[deepinya]

Is it true that people fell off the Golden Gate Bridge while protesting? A friend of mine told me that but Im not sure if he heard it right.

 

[LandRover]

I'd like to know what good is coming from all this protesting.
Do you honestly expect to change the outcome of this conflict by protesting it? The only thing the protesting during Vietnam really did was create a huge mess for our troops, especially when they returned. Is that what you want to do? They have a job to do, and they're going to do it regardless of your protesting.

I hate war, but I'm certainly going to support our troops. And I don't think any good is ever going to come from anyones protesting this war.

I guess next we'll get to see Jane Fonda having dinner with an Iraqi leader. :disgust:

 

[C'DaleRider]

I still cannot fathom the hatred shown those who protest the war. I suppose all anti-war prostesting is supposedly anit-patriotic, form what I've read here.

So, that means all who protest US-led wars are anti-American and anti-patriotic then?






Guess Abraham Lincoln is one of those pinko left-wing anti-war lunatics because he stood on the floor of Congress, when he was part of the House of Reps., and defied the current Administration by voicing opposition to the current US-led war, the Mexican War (The one over then-to-be Texas?) In fact, he made quite a name for himself in his protest over that war.

In fact, there have been anti-war protests against every war the US has led, except WWII. Anti-war protesting has a long and honorable tradition in this country and to belittle those participating in such is just juvenile, closed-minded, and ignorant.

But, remembering Vietnam and the anti-war protesting and the reactions to the protesting (much like what is going on today.....calling the protestors pinkos and anti-American), and the end conclusion that time showed us (the protestors were actually right!), it seems rather short-sighted to condemn those that choose to excercise their right to express their opposition to a rather unpopular war.

 

[Ornery]

Our mofo protesters are blocking streets and causing chaos. They have no clue how to go about fixing our terrorism problem, but they sure as hell can squawk about our leaders, who ARE making progress and have direction. All they can do is add is bedlam to an already miserable situation. The fact that Iraqi citizens welcome our troops, just falls on deaf ears. Morons then... morons now.

 

[Deadtrees]

Mr. Bush must think that the earth itself is hell, thus he saves, and frees Iriq people by bombing them. Rest in peace innocent civilians.

 

[flavio]

Ornery, looks like you believe the protestors were wrong about Vietnam too. I guess you must just like all wars?

 

[human2k]

Support for Bush grows, 22K votes so far.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Mr. Bush must think that the earth itself is hell, thus he saves, and frees Iriq people by bombing them. Rest in peace innocent civilians.

Please provide definitive proof that civilians have been purposefully targeted and eliminated.