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BaliBabyDoc

Lifer
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If you say you understand, how can you not understand that what is going on in iraq is doing more good than harm for the Iraqi people and this being the case, what is the problem??????........simply that we did not get UN approval???? Does that make us wrong unquestionably? Can it not be possible that our position is correct and those against it are wrong?

The Shi'ites in southern Iraq will be better off under almost any circumstance. The Kurds in northern Iraq are scarcely better off if Turkish troops arrive (which has been guaranteed b/c the Parliament approved US over-fly rights AND authorized troops to enter Iraq). The Bush administration has not cooperated at all with organizations that have one function . . . humanitarian relief. People will suffer needlessly b/c this operation is focused on taking out Saddam NOT the humanitarian salvation of Iraqis.

It is certainly possible that Bush will intimidate Saddam into leaving or annihilate his regime with a minimal amount of civilian and military casualties. It is possible a Pro Consul will quickly take the reigns of reconstructing civilian infrastructure while US troops locate and eradicate an extensive WMD program which includes a nuclear development program and tacit (if not overt) support/plans to aid terrorist organizations. It is possible that within 6-12mo Iraq will be pumping oil at capacity and the funds go entirely to civilian purposes like hospitals, schools, roads, water, and sanitation. Within the same time frame more and more authority is yielded to an Iraqi council if not the development of a truly representative government.

It's all possible . . . each has it's complications that make an individual aspect more or less likely. The laws of probability make the entire scenario very unlikely. I really hope for a good outcome for the people of Iraq . . . but I expect it to happen in spite of US actions . . . not the result of US actions . . . akin to the budding democracy in Iran. Of course, the imminent removal of Saddam's regime will be attributable to US military might and said removal of Saddam (even if the means are destructive) must be considered a good outcome on balance . . . assuming thousands of civilians don't die in the next month followed by thousands more in a humanitarian crisis.
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
If protesters have the right to stand in the street and block rush hour traffic, then I have the right to run them over.
Try that out; see how that works.

That would probably be at least 2nd degree murder; well actually 1st degree since you posted it here (therefore you thought about doing it).

And if he didn't die, vehicular manslaughter at least.
 

LakAttack

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Originally posted by: fuzzy bee
Originally posted by: LakAttack
If you hate our Constitutional Rights of Free Speech and Peaceful Assembly so much, why don't YOU move to Iraq. I hear there are a lot less inconviences caused by people disagreeing with the government there.

I don't care if you protest. If I'm not interfereing with your right to peaceful protest, though, don't interefere with my right to free travel.

aside:
And now, introducing your PLAYOFF BOUND Atlanta HAWKS!!!
I notice they've taken the "playoff bound" part out of the radio commercials now. ;)

I don't remember seeing a right to free travel in the Constitution. . . ;)

I see what you are saying though, and I'm certainly not out protesting. I do support their rights though, while I do not condone the violence of some.

On the aside, I've seen a billboard as recently as 2 weeks ago that said that, prompting the sig. Should be, Now introducing your heartless quitters, the ATLANTA HAWKS. :)
 

ToBeMe

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People will suffer needlessly b/c this operation is focused on taking out Saddam NOT the humanitarian salvation of Iraqis.
Hmmm, is that why the US has set aside 661,000 TONS of wheat, millions of dollars worth of other food staples, military doctors and nurses, and military support to rebuild essential infastructure and housing for Iraqis?

I really hope for a good outcome for the people of Iraq . . . but I expect it to happen in spite of US actions . . . not the result of US actions

How is thtis???? Enlighten me please.....................France, Germany, Russias' plans would have held UN Inspectors there indefinately playing a shell game with Saddam and would have never led to his or his sons' demise.........................Do not dismiss the actions we are taking before seeing the outcome......................
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: fuzzy bee
Originally posted by: DanJ
And if he didn't die, vehicular manslaughter at least.

[aside]Wouldn't he have to die for it to be manslaughter?[/aside]
Haha yes, good point, I meant attempted vehicular manslaughter.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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2 (?) Protestors shot and killed in Yemen when trying to storm the US Embassy (just heard on CNN Radio)
 

JoeBaD

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Wouldn't it be fun to lie across the driveways of some of those anti-war protestors so they would have to use public transportation for the first time in their lives :)
 

IGBT

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...we can get them to do anything we want..just con them into thinking they can make a difference...






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human2k

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Originally posted by: DanJ
Originally posted by: dcpsoguy
If protesters have the right to stand in the street and block rush hour traffic, then I have the right to run them over.
Try that out; see how that works.

That would probably be at least 2nd degree murder; well actually 1st degree since you posted it here (therefore you thought about doing it).

And if he didn't die, vehicular manslaughter at least.

I would get in my dads big old 85 chevy fan to make sure I get "clean" hits. THen I would come after you Dan and whoever is against RUNNINGOVERHIPPIEPROTESTERS.
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: human2k
I would get in my dads big old 85 chevy fan to make sure I get "clean" hits. THen I would come after you Dan and whoever is against RUNNINGOVERHIPPIEPROTESTERS.
Nah, you'd get arrested for not having your drivers license yet.
 

zoiks

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I wish I could join the protest but cant right now.
Move all the warmongers to Iraq and unleash the iraqis on em.hahaah
 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: zoiks
I wish I could join the protest but cant right now.
Move all the warmongers to Iraq and unleash the iraqis on em.hahaah
Oh yeah..................freedom is for the protesters but not for those whom view things differently...............

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human2k

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Originally posted by: ToBeMe
Originally posted by: zoiks
I wish I could join the protest but cant right now.
Move all the warmongers to Iraq and unleash the iraqis on em.hahaah
Oh yeah..................freedom is for the protesters but not for those whom view things differently...............

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Like another previous post said, kick all these TREELOVINGHIPPIEPROTESTORS to iraq if they love it so much.
 

DanJ

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Originally posted by: human2k
Like another previous post said, kick all these TREELOVINGHIPPIEPROTESTORS to iraq if they love it so much.
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One more time as I know its hard to understand!

If protesters break the law, they will be arrested.
If not, protestors are exercising their liberties as defined by the US Constitution.
 

yobarman

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Famous Last Words

My roommate just left to go to an Anti-War rally, he told me "if i'm not back by 10 or 11 i'm probably in jail"

He's definately anti-war, we'll see what happens on the tube tonight.

It's gonna be wild I wanted to go but i got some other stuff to do.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
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I am not going to read this whole thing but why spend time protesting the war, its not like we are going to stop just cause some dont agree with it. It just makes me think that some people are dumb and dont bother thinking about the big picture here, we are going after a guy who is KNOWN for being a bad leader and even kills his own people and lies saying he didnt have weapons of mass destruction. Watch how many people of Iraq cheer after we try and make it a better place for them to live just my 2 cents.
 

flavio

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Originally posted by: DanJ
Originally posted by: human2k
Like another previous post said, kick all these TREELOVINGHIPPIEPROTESTORS to iraq if they love it so much.
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One more time as I know its hard to understand!

If protesters break the law, they will be arrested.
If not, protestors are exercising their liberties as defined by the US Constitution.

I think you'll have to keep repeating it. People like human2k have such little cognitive ability that you only chance is repetition.

 

Tab

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Disrupting Traffic and burning the american flag is extremly disrespectfull. It seems to me most of the protestors cant even answer one simple question, "How is leaving a genocidal leader in power promoting peace and justice?"....
 

amcdonald

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
5,000 protestors are still blocking traffic downtown.
They claim they'll be protesting as long as there are troops engaging The Iraqi's.....

Once they get tired and/or their parents tell them to come home, it will clear up.

[Triumph] And which one of these buttons calls your parents to come and pick you up?[/Triumph]
LOL I just saw this thread... Triumph ripping apart the star wars fans has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
 

BooGiMaN

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Jul 5, 2001
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funniest thing i heard today on the radio:

radio guy: and now a view of the southland traffic, what can you tell us about the protest in downtown los angeles helicopter dude....

Helicopter/traffic guy: sources had stated that the protest was to start around 8 but i dont see too many people ...guess they couldnt be bothered to wake up early, its not like they have a real JOOOB or anything..
 

Conky

Lifer
May 9, 2001
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How do the protesters figure that tying up traffic is going to do anything but piss people off and make them hate your protest?

By the way, al jazeera is loving the protesters. Live arab TV

People need to support our military from the lowliest private to the commander in chief. And let people get home without you standing in traffic, retard.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Disrupting Traffic and burning the american flag is extremly disrespectfull. It seems to me most of the protestors cant even answer one simple question, "How is leaving a genocidal leader in power promoting peace and justice?"....

I will answer even though you will dismiss it! Promoting peace and justice isn't why we invaded Iraq. There are plenty of other countries on the hit list if that's what we're doing over there. Iran, Israel, Palestine, NK, probably half of Africa, etc. GWB flaunts a tenuous (at best) connection to 9/11 and hidden "proof" that Iraq has WMD. The $75-80 billion it will cost to rebuild Iraq is money that would have a much greater benefit to the American people if spent on domestic programs.

Disrupting traffic and breaking laws is obviously stupid. Burning the flag, while I don't like it, is a protected form of free speech. I have a lot of respect for our armed forces but I am very much against this war. Not that it matters.
 

ConclamoLudus

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Jan 16, 2003
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I'm all for people voicing their opinion about this war. Its unfortunate though that they are tying up our police, blocking traffic for our firefighters, and harming their local economies. The terrorists are loving a situation like this. They love the sentiment of the rally's and they'll especially love that our protectors PD and FD, are kept busy. Go voice your opinion, but I hate to think of what disaster could occur because they insist on chaining themselves to buildings and blocking traffic. I might respect it more if they had some kind of numbers on their side, but the polls certanly show otherwise.

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