Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[Crumpet]

It looks like frame times are really good, and the average frame rate is pretty stable.

Yes it doesn't churn out massive frame rates like the 7700k, but who expected it to?

As a gamer/streamer and someone who works in photoshop, autoCAD and fusion360... I have to say i'm pretty happy with what i'm seeing.

I'll be running my own comparison tests between my current i5 6600 (non-k) system vs my Ryzen system for gaming. Yes, there's a large price difference there but it might make for interesting results.

 

[LTC8K6]

You are trolling hard dude...

Nothing you said made any sense.

I never troll. I wonder how this bodes for the 4C/8T RyZen chips, but I was just told that they would score the same, which seems to indicate that I don't need 8C/16T yet.

But the RyZen benches are literally all over the place.

 

[Mopetar]

Wow I guess that puts a nail in the "gaming monster" coffin for the 7700k. AMD faster at 3.9Ghz than KL at 5Ghz... Intel is screwed. Makes sense now why they are sending letters to reviewers and filing these threads with trolls...they're scared and they should be scared.

Kind of funny to see some posters who've been scarce for a while poking their heads back out with whatever benchmark they can find that makes Ryzen look bad instead of also looking at any of the results where it's even with an i7. I wonder if this has anything to do with the update that AMD had sent out just a few days prior. The reason the results are so mixed could be a result of that.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Then his 1800X did not win the silicon lottery. BIOS issues?

People only ever assumed that the CPUs were binned. Even if it's true, binning usually doesn't make a huge difference.

I guess it's possible Joker got a really bad 1800x and a really good 1700, but that seems unlikely imo. All the leaks kept saying the 1700 could hit about 4 GHz, and there wasn't anything credible about the 1800x doing significantly better.

 

[Kenmitch]

Fog is still too thick to jump to conclusions for gaming.

One example from here http://www.pcworld.com/article/3176191/computers/ryzen-review-amd-is-back.html?page=3

From review above.

“As we presented at Ryzen Tech Day, we are supporting 300+ developer kits with game development studios to optimize current and future game releases for the all-new Ryzen CPU. We are on track for 1,000+ developer systems in 2017. For example, Bethesda at GDC yesterday announced its strategic relationship with AMD to optimize for Ryzen CPUs, primarily through Vulkan low-level API optimizations, for a new generation of games, DLC and VR experiences,” Taylor said. “Oxide Games also provided a public statement today on the significant performance uplift observed when optimizing for the 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen 7 CPU design—optimizations not yet reflected in Ashes of the Singularity benchmarking. Creative Assembly, developers of the Total War series, made a similar statement today related to upcoming Ryzen optimizations.

“CPU benchmarking deficits to the competition in certain games at 1080p resolution can be attributed to the development and optimization of the game uniquely to Intel platforms—until now. Even without optimizations in place, Ryzen delivers high, smooth frame rates on all ‘CPU-bound’ games, as well as overall smooth frame rates and great experiences in GPU-bound gaming and VR. With developers taking advantage of Ryzen architecture and the extra cores and threads, we expect benchmarks to only get better, and enable Ryzen to excel at next-generation gaming experiences as well. Game performance will be optimized for Ryzen and continue to improve from at-launch frame rate scores.”

Doesn't look like there really is a issue unless your playing at really low settings.

I'd really like to see more testing done with settings and resolutions that a person would really be playing at if one choose the Ryzen processor. Most likely they wouldn't be running the really low settings or resolutions.

 

[guachi]

It depends really. On gaming there is still the GPU to be considered. If you want both content creation and gaming, and you are regardless GPU bottlenecked like 80% of the chaps out there, what would you buy?

I don't know. I say that because we've seen gaming results all over the place. Or, at least, I haven't taken the time to look at them and see what would be most relevant to me. (I'm at work not working)

I think my answer right now is - "Wait". Whether that's wait to read reviews and let the dust settle. or wait for a 6 or 4 core Ryzen. Though I do think AMD lost a lot of sales for people who have already waited and are going with the 7700.

Personally, I was (and am) looking forward to a no-compromise chip that does great everywhere. One chip to rule them all, kind of thing. Give me 6900 level performance and I'll buy a Ryzen. I do piles of encoding so the monster scores are a huge win for me. But I can wait.

EDIT: Basically - what gaming results most mimic my use case? For me, it's 4k and moderate graphics settings. And what improvements do I get over my current chip, an 8350?

 

[dfk7677]

Look at that CPU load in BF1:

Max OC Ryzen R7-1700 @ 3.9GHz versus Max OC i7-7700K @ 5.0GHz

Seems like R7-1700@3.9GHz has about double the performance of 7700k@5Ghz in a properly multithreaded game like Battlefield 1.

 

[lolfail9001]

Wow I guess that puts a nail in the "gaming monster" coffin for the 7700k. AMD faster at 3.9Ghz than KL at 5Ghz... Intel is screwed. Makes sense now why they are sending letters to reviewers and filing these threads with trolls...they're scared and they should be scared.

You are like reverse Shintai, man.

By the way, how's that 1700 "binned reject" story going?

 

[LTC8K6]

Overall, it looks like the 1700X and 1800X don't make too much sense to buy over the 1700 if you want to go with a RyZen 8C chip.

 

[jpiniero]

But the RyZen benches are literally all over the place.

It might be just because of the bugginess. Which is kind of funny if you think about it since Bristol Ridge was supposed to iron platform issues out. Clearly AMD had to get this out as soon as they could but it needs more work in general.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'm disappointed by the gaming benchmarks so far and that will hurt potential sales of these cpu's.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Is it me or is the 1700x just a factory overclocked 1700? Better off getting the 1700 and doing it yourself.

1700 looks like the CPU to get imo. I'm not worried about the gaming performance, it is to do with the SMT implementation. They will iron that out with updates.

 

[Glo.]

Overall, it looks like the 1700X and 1800X don't make too much sense to buy over the 1700 if you want to go with a RyZen 8C chip.

That is exactly the case.

 

[CatMerc]

Ryzen indeed looks all over the place in games. What an odd situation.

I'd go with lolfail9001's theory and say memory latency is the culprit.
Looking forward to DigitalFoundry's review to see frametimes.

 

[IEC]

I'm disappointed by the gaming benchmarks so far and that will hurt potential sales of these cpu's.

Do you game at 1080p low quality settings? No?

Then you will be fine with how it performs at 1080p ultra and 1440p:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-and-discussion.2499879/page-92#post-38770132

 

[TeknoBug]

Interesting, but the power consumption is a big turnoff, as well as requiring a liquid cooler for optimal use.

 

[PPB]

Look at that CPU load in BF1:

Max OC Ryzen R7-1700 @ 3.9GHz versus Max OC i7-7700K @ 5.0GHz

THIS is what I was talking about BF1. Even in that portion of the map its absolute murder for 4c/8t (at least my 4790K consumes at least 80% of what Prime95 non FMA uses, crazy for a video game) and the thread load can get quite high for 120fps players. Since I'm more of a 80fps player with a 75hz panel, Ryzen has me set for gaming performance. Still, the latency issues and SMT yield needs to be sorted out. See in that image how the first HT thread is more loaded than thread 1 (the physical one)? Then you see every other pair of threads loaded as you would think (more on the physical, less on the HT one). Hopefully this is a software fix away from being solved.

 

[Torn Mind]

It might be just because of the bugginess. Which is kind of funny if you think about it since Bristol Ridge was supposed to iron platform issues out. Clearly AMD had to get this out as soon as they could but it needs more work in general.

With Skylake-X about a half year away, I think they had to release it by this month or else people will just start thinking "maybe I'll just wait a little while longer".

 

[Burpo]

Stock price falling this morning.. Down 3%

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/amd

 

[The Stilt]

Mine, eventhou it isn't a real review:
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/

 

[Crumpet]

This is the gamers Nexus video, it's really in depth and quite scathing really when it comes to the gaming performance. But if you look at the 99th percentile stuff and listen to what he's saying it seems the frame rates seem and frame times are pretty damn stable on Ryzen, meaning that the gaming experience should be pretty smooth! FPS isn't everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7UBHjtCXhU

The power draw is bonkers low, and I think that what GN is displaying here is worst case scenario stuff for me.. And i'm pretty happy with my 1800x purchase.

I also lol'd at him saying the reported temps under stress of 70-75c as "really hot" considering that we've seen 7700k stress tests peaking over 90c.

 

[richierich1212]

Interesting, but the power consumption is a big turnoff, as well as requiring a liquid cooler for optimal use.

Where are you seeing high power consumption?

 

[RoarTiger]

After browsing quite a few english language reviews one thing is clear the quality of tech journalism as a whole is way below where it was when Anand was a more CPU focused site. Take a "leader" like PCPER who tested three whole games for this launch. Seriously just three. Seems most popular sites are happy to publish half arsed web reviews for clicks while they promote equally shoddy youtube videos for more revenue. Would be nice to see some of these leaders invest that revenue in actually testing again. Thankfully if we use google translate we can still find real tech sites like Hardweare.fr who actually spend time testing and documenting bugs. /rant

SMT bug is a real killer. AMD may be more competitive in gaming by the time the 1600X is launched. It should be a better CPU for current gaming workloads and hopefully the bugs will be fixed so we can see some real competition.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Is it me or is the 1700x just a factory overclocked 1700? Better off getting the 1700 and doing it yourself.

1700 looks like the CPU to get imo. I'm not worried about the gaming performance, it is to do with the SMT implementation. They will iron that out with updates.

Looks like that is true with the 1800x as well. There is a good chance these things aren't even binned.

 

[antihelten]

With such a dichotomy of results between gaming and content creation (or other multi-threaded use) a buyer will really have to think hard about what is most important to him.

Gaming? Don't get Ryzen.
Mult-threaded use? Get Ryzen!

Though I hope we see more gaming results with current games and GPUs that people would typically be using like a 480, 1070, and 1080. Especially the 1080 as, eventhough I think it's a terrible deal no, people will likely keep their CPU for long enough to upgrade to 1080-like speed for a reasonable price.

More like:

Gaming? Buy whichever is cheapest and spend the rest on a better GPU, since none of these CPUs will bottleneck you enough to really matter.
Multi-threaded use? Get Ryzen, unless you have money to burn.