Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[3DVagabond]

Chances are that in some of the tests, Ryzen needs faster memory to be competitive.
Reviews are gonna get messy as folks are not gonna give it the BW it needs.

They sent 3000MHz kits with the reviewer's kit. Hopefully that's enough for consistent and fair reviews.

 

[3DVagabond]

Keep in mind Intel HEDT chips have bigger cache and quad channel, that will yield better results, is just 15% for double number of cores, we know for a fact that Kaby Lake gives better gains than that by using faster ram.

Sorry. I can't decipher what you mean.

 

[PotatoWithEarsOnSide]

TBH, I was looking for an answer to the question, not a commetary about some other person.

 

[moonbogg]

Do you guys think the cas 16 of my 3200 kit will slow me down much? Should I go for a lower cas kit or some moar hard core ram?

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Do you guys think the cas 16 of my 3200 kit will slow me down much? Should I go for a lower cas kit or some moar hard core ram?

It's fine. Ram speed usually doesn't matter much.

 

[IEC]

Do you guys think the cas 16 of my 3200 kit will slow me down much? Should I go for a lower cas kit or some moar hard core ram?

I'm in the same boat. Pinching myself and wondering if I'm sane thinking about getting a 4000 kit versus the 3400 I already have set aside... I will decide for sure after reviews.

 

[3DVagabond]

While it does, the 6800K has 2 cores less and probably runs at lower frecuency (3.5Ghz ACT). Thats not really a good result, most gaming results are inside the margin of error. I was kinda expecting the 6800K to have no chance here.

So you've been expecting AMD to beat Intel hands down, across the board, with Zen? I think most people weren't so optimistic. The same or similar performance it ~1/2 the price is way more than I expected.

I hope you aren't too badly let down and can appreciate it for what it is. You are saying not good, but it's great, At least for you and I (Unless one of us worked for Intel.). This brings performance to new lower price points and should get Intel back to innovating again.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

The person spilling the beans initially said about 3ghz limits but corrected today saying that AMD very recently forced a firmware update that got the IMC support up to 3800mhz. He did say sadly now though the memory subsettings are gone and all you get is 4 subsets with the dividers to play around with. Basically AMD are pushing the engines up to 100% now.

Where did you see this?

 

[IEC]

Where did you see this?

*if* it's true, he obviously cannot say, as the "person spilling the beans" would likely be violating NDA

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Ohh I thought he had a written source.

 

[KTE]

Seriously. Quit talking about lunatics who don't even post here.


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[foghorn67]

Does anyone find it odd how there are continuously shifting goalposts in this anti-Ryzen narrative?
1. It won't clock past 3.0GHz, good luck getting 3.5GHz --> It won't clock past 4.0GHz, good luck getting 4.5GHz
2. It will have Sandy Bridge IPC levels or worse --> Oh it has BDW-E IPC? It's still worse than Kaby Lake
3. It won't work with DDR4 >2667MHz, good luck getting 3000MHz --> AMD posts 3GHz confirmed. Oh, it works with 3000MHz, but lol latency!
4. Perf/W is everything that matters! --> Oh it's competitive in Perf/W? We'll stop mentioning that...
5. Gaming performance/ST performance will suck! --> Oh, it's within 10% of Intel quads? But Intel quads 5GHz! You don't need more than 4 cores!

Frankly I'll be satisfied with 4.0GHz all-core overclock. Any more is icing on the cake (that happened to cost 1/2 of the BDW-E equivalent). I'm sure I'll be very sad that I got 85%-95% of the performance at 50% of the price.

I'll be a happy camper if it's just a plain ol' chip that is fantastic out of the box that is a great dollar/performance bargain. So far, there is nothing out there to say that won't happen. I think everything will be very positive this Thursday.

 

[Shivansps]

So you've been expecting AMD to beat Intel hands down, across the board, with Zen? I think most people weren't so optimistic. The same or similar performance it ~1/2 the price is way more than I expected.

I hope you aren't too badly let down and can appreciate it for what it is. You are saying not good, but it's great, At least for you and I (Unless one of us worked for Intel.). This brings performance to new lower price points and should get Intel back to innovating again.

Yes, im expecting a brand new 1700X that has superior clock, equal or higher IPC, 2 extra cores, maybe better SMT to beat a 6800K across the board at gaming, Whats wrong with it? its not half the price and its not a high performance 4C 7700K that may work better at games that does not escale very well.

 

[Rifter]

Oh, no you've posted some 720p benchmarks and defeated me.

Why didn't you also post the results for 1080p, which some people actually game at?

Yes im sure running all CPU's GPU bottlenecked would support your attempt to make CPU all look the same in the benchmarks, which is COMPLETELY IRREVERENT and would accomplish nothing when trying to figure out which CPU has most headroom when removing the GPU bottleneck. Which is clearly what they are trying to accomplish with this review.

I for one would love to know how much more headroom these new 6+ CPU's have in comparison to the 4 cores so i know i will be covered for the next few generations of GPU's without running into a CPU bottleneck and can choose my CPU accordingly, so im happy there are reviews like this out there.

 

[IEC]

Ryzen/Vega gaming demo from Capsaicin event today utilizing 8 cores, 16 threads @100%:
https://youtu.be/ZVKDNeyfpAo?t=3206

 

[lolfail9001]

Ryzen/Vega gaming demo from Capsaicin event today utilizing 8 cores, 16 threads @100%:

So, when are Oxide renaming themselves to Fluoride and start making benchmarks and burn tests? Because that crash after CPU hit 100% usage was hilariously telling of their actual purpose in the world.

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[WhoBeDaPlaya]

I doubt that. ST is right there with intel latest chips, it is 7-8% lower per clock than Skylake or BDW-E. That is peanuts difference, remember that AMD was a staggering 55-60% behind those scores with Excavator.

Pretty epic jump if you think about it.
AMD supposedly jumped from Core2 (or slightly below since PII ~ C2, and BD < PII) IPC to ~Haswell IPC in one leap.

 

[IEC]

So, when are Oxide renaming themselves to Fluoride and start making benchmarks and burn tests? Because that crash after CPU hit 100% usage was hilariously telling of their actual purpose in the world.

Clearly they could take a lesson from Rebellion who demoed the 100% scaling for mGPU on 2xRX480 to make sure engine stability was bulletproof.

https://youtu.be/ZVKDNeyfpAo?t=2955

Snide remarks aside, the point is that pushing for more cores in the mainstream will advance what is possible in game engines.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'm still excited over the fact that Intel has some real competition again. This market pressure will make things better for consumers everywhere.

 

[french toast]

So, when are Oxide renaming themselves to Fluoride and start making benchmarks and burn tests? Because that crash after CPU hit 100% usage was hilariously telling of their actual purpose in the world.

Why was it hilarious? Its some kind of buggy demo, what did you expect?
The event was a disappointment as a whole, i was expecting them to show vega in action with some pascal comparisons, this would help deter people from buying 1080 ti, for that to happen they would need to get within 15-20% of it and be vastly cheaper.
I can only assume they Don't feel confident in competing, which would be a disappointment.

Some excellent software news though.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Yes, im expecting a brand new 1700X that has superior clock, equal or higher IPC, 2 extra cores, maybe better SMT to beat a 6800K across the board at gaming, Whats wrong with it? its not half the price and its not a high performance 4C 7700K that may work better at games that does not escale very well.

Except no one is winning at gaming. They are all going to be tied.

 

[lolfail9001]

Why was it hilarious? Its some kind of buggy demo, what did you expect?

Because it was the ethereal forces telling them to start making mediocre games and put their talents to use as Futuremark competitor, duh.

On the Ryzen hand, Ryzen managed to get [H] seal of approval before NDA lift. Not bad.

 

[inf64]

On the Ryzen hand, Ryzen managed to get [H] seal of approval before NDA lift. Not bad.

How come? Did Kyle spill the bans?

 

[formulav8]

He did talk about Ryzen doing great in VR.

 

[IEC]

How come? Did Kyle spill the bans?

Wow, Kyle Bennett on stage at an AMD event:
https://youtu.be/ZVKDNeyfpAo?t=4965