With Ryzen, the leaks are far different and indicate a CPU that, by and large, is competitive with Intel's Broadwell-E offerings. Possibly worse OC depending on who you believe, and probably inferior AVX performance based on what we know about the architecture compared to Intel's newer chips - but competitive overall in a wide variety of applications, both single and multithreaded
Yeah, Ryzen as arch is great, but certainly has room for improvement.
You are annoyed I mentioned the fact that Ryzen is an SOC and you want to bury that.
Ryzen being a SoC does not affect my point one bit, it is just creating excuses to explain whatever you want to explain with it.
Which again is not relevant to a different design - you are trying to look at Intel design and make assumptions on a different CPU.
Nope, i have literally came off from hwbot memory board, looking at 90% bandwidth efficiency on 1T on legitimate quad channel DDR4-3333 with 11-ish timings on Haswell-E. Memory overclocking, you say? That's what memory overclocking looks like.
And yes, Ryzen is not as memory hungry as Skylake, with beefier/faster caches. But not everything fits inside the cache. Far from anything, even.
I have seen people like you and your mates in the last few months - first it was AMD will not support 2667MHZ,then when it was they could not do above 3000MHZ. When it was evident it was higher - then its latency E-PENIS.
We just follow the rumors and leaks, man, while you are here trying to pull off an JF-AMD.
Intel warranty standards - look it up. No amount of distorting things desperately on your part,changes the fact Intel only officially supports 2400MHZ DDR4 like AMD.
Implying i contest that fact. Of course it does not support DDR4-2666, it did not exist as JEDEC standard at the time. And yes, i know of their warranty policy too, whataboutisms do not work well here.
Not the R7 1800X - but I know you really don't want HEDT CPUs to be compared to Ryzen since you are scared of the price drops,so you must try and bury anybody saying otherwise.
See, the projection is here, too! But yes, even AMD knows that their line-up is really meant to be compared against HEDT CPUs because Broadwell-E sucks like that. So, yes, if i want to detect someone cheering/shilling for AMD i check if they compare with 7700k. If I want to detect someone cheering/shilling for Intel, i check for BDW-E comparisons.
Which again its not relevant since it is a different CPU design
No amount of difference in CPU design won't change the fact that CPU wants the data to be delivered as soon as possible. Trying to put it under the rug solves nothing and help you not even a little bit.
But your excuse making is what will give Intel marketing a good set of tips to not drop prices.
And what? I was not going to buy a CPU that would consume more than 100 watts in peak anyways. That's why i looked forward to Ryzen in my rig: i had the stupidity to believe AMD to not lie about power consumption for once. Now i will just have to match it against real measurements and see how far that can be pushed.
The advanatge over Z270 is therefore pretty huge as in z270 everything! expect the 16 GPU lanes go through the chip set which then is connected to the CPU by 4x PCIe lanes.
16 lanes from CPU go directly to the board on Z270 platform, the only x4 lanes bottlenecked stuff is everything on the chipset. So, all the block devices, audio, NICs and I/O. In comparison, on Ryzen it means you can have some Gen 1 ports and 1 NVMe x4 drive not bottlenecked by the chipset. OTOH on Z270 you can have 2 NVMe drives that may not bottleneck each other unless they are used together, but on Ryzen one of them has to be on 2.0, cutting the speed in half or more.