Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[Shivansps]

There is any way to give feedback to AMD about their software? with Ryzen i think it will be a good idea to support optional CPU encoding on Relive if a Ryzen processor is present, regardless of GPU.

 

[SpiritHunter]

Woo-hoo! At last I've got Ryzen 7 1700X. Building PC based on it was fun XD
Dad was even helping me to create a bracket for liquid cooling in his garage because I couldn't wait Cooler Master to ship it to my shitty godforsaken country XD
In the end everything works just perfectly and I overclocked it to 4.0 GHz.
Here's my MV of building it.

 

[krumme]

Fantastic video !
A beautiful celebration of enthusiasm.
Thanx

 

[lightmanek]

Cool video, reminded me of old times when I had to fabricate water blocks for Socket 7 as there were none available in my country! Full custom loop using car heat exchangers and solid copper WB.
Great looking system and really good video!
Gratz!

 

[Crono]

Woo-hoo! At last I've got Ryzen 7 1700X. Building PC based on it was fun XD
Dad was even helping me to create a bracket for liquid cooling in his garage because I couldn't wait Cooler Master to ship it to my shitty godforsaken country XD
In the end everything works just perfectly and I overclocked it to 4.0 GHz.
Here's my MV of building it.

Nice build video. I need to get me one of those V21's these days, versatile little cases.

Also nice avatar (Laguna). If I weren't Crono I'd probably be Squall.

 

[SpiritHunter]

Also nice avatar (Laguna). If I weren't Crono I'd probably be Squall.

Haha, thanks! FFVIII is my fav game and I also love Chrono Trigger very much. I even created a 3D model of Crono for 3D printing (I'm a 3D designer) XD

 

[Ajay]

Sweet rig, cool video and awesome of your Dad to pitch in - happy trails dude

 

[CatMerc]

Pretty sure yield if for all usable dice, regardless of the way they are binned.

The claim was for 8 cores from the original source.

 

[Malogeek]

8 cores aren't usable if the rest of the die isn't usable as well?

 

[raghu78]

Lisa Su confirms 7nm tapeouts scheduled for late 2017. Hopefully these are both Zen 2 and Navi. We should see a 7nm Zen 2 based Ryzen sometime in H1 2019. Right in time to take on Icelake built on Intel 10+ process.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/40...organ-technology-media-and-telecom-conference

Harlan Sur - JPMorgan

We talked initially in our discussion about the momentum carrying forward for the team and I think one of the things that you guys did a good job at Analyst Day was helping us to understand what’s next, right? And a good example of that is if we look at Zen 2, which you discussed at Analyst Day, that’s going to be ready sort of 2018, 2019 timeframe. Just maybe discuss in a little bit more granularity about the potential launch dates. These products are proposed to be using 7-nanometer technology from your foundry partners. When do you think such products are going to be sort of ready for tape-out and when do we see these products sort of out in the market?

Lisa Su

Yes, so our goal is to be very competitive in terms of our long-term roadmap. If you look at the foundry 7-nanometer roadmap compared to some of the other technologies out there, it’s actually really competitive. And I think the gap between sort of the foundry roadmap and like the Intel roadmap has gotten a lot closer. Our goal is to be aggressive with 7-nanometer technology. We will be doing tape-outs later this year. And as we get closer to production, we’ll give more insights there. But the idea is to be very competitive throughout the product portfolio.

 

[Lodix]

If they are doing this year the tape outs you can expect them to be ready for late 2018.

 

[Mopetar]

If they are doing this year the tape outs you can expect them to be ready for late 2018.

That's probably best-case though. Something always goes wrong or there some setback.

 

[krumme]

Was was zen tapeout?
I recall something like dec 15 so plus aprox 15 months?

 

[scannall]

If they are doing this year the tape outs you can expect them to be ready for late 2018.

15 to 18 months IF the node is ready for production. It might take a little less time than that to tape out, since it's an iteration and not a brand new core. But I'm not sure the node will be ready for mass production by then, The tapeout may be done a bit early. But early is a good thing.

 

[T1beriu]

Was was zen tapeout?
I recall something like dec 15 so plus aprox 15 months?

First news about Zen tapeouts came from Globafoundries on November 05 2015 (Source) But a month later, Devinder Kumar - AMD's Chief Financial Officer, made a contradictory announcement at an investor conference. Twice:

Zen was a clean sheet design that started few years ago. We are in the final figure of executing and the milestone that you want hear us talk about is Zen tapping out, which should be over the next several months.

the key is tapping out in the next several months, samples and customers for the validation of the product over the 2016 time

Source

I think GF jumped the gun describing the first stages of tapeout.

So since Zen's tapeout until launch it took somewhere around 12-15 months. It's seems a very short time considering it was a massive architectural change and a big platform shift.

 

[raghu78]

I think we are likely to see a late Q1 or Q2 2019 launch of 7nm Zen 2. GF 7nm risk production is slated for early 2018. It normally takes a year from risk production to get to volume production. We will most likely see desktop first and then server should follow quickly by mid to early Q3 2019.

predictably wccftech quoted the same Lisa Su interview at JP Morgan conference. Whats hilarious is the following statement below the quoted text from itnerview. "This transcript is the property of wccftech.com, any use without appropriate citation is strictly prohibited." lol. these guys are just ridiculous.

 

[Jan Olšan]

I also reckon the 7nm chip could be ready for Q1 2019, Q4 2018 if extra lucky. However, it is very likely going to be GPU (Navi), those are always first to a new node.

And yields or frequencies actually achieved can stop the launch even if teh process and design are ready for mass production. That's probably the biggest risk (this happened with Llano on 32nm IIRC?)

 

[Veradun]

I also reckon the 7nm chip could be ready for Q1 2019, Q4 2018 if extra lucky. However, it is very likely going to be GPU (Navi), those are always first to a new node.

And yields or frequencies actually achieved can stop the launch even if teh process and design are ready for mass production. That's probably the biggest risk (this happened with Llano on 32nm IIRC?)

Probably small GPUs and/or APUs

 

[Topweasel]

This is the error I'm getting with Origin + BF1 + Nvidia 373.6 Geforce Drivers:

Thanks for your help that just makes me sad. Probably Origin or BF1 keeping a sliding scale of acceptable driver versions after updates. Can't really go back to an earlier build of BF1 with Origin. Arggh. Could have people try the others but I would be surprised if they didn't act the same.

 

[T1beriu]

AMD's Robert Hallock (head of global technical marketing), James Prior (product manager) and Donny? (desktop processor manager?) video Q&A.

Videocardz has posted the video's timestamps if you're interested in a particular topic.

Summary of new and interesting bits:

• more mini ITX boards coming in the next 2 months
• ITX boards are harder to manufacture and take more time to come to market because the layout are more condensed
• a blog post will show up before of the month to talk about the AGESA 1.0.0.6 update that some manufactures have already released betas of (some mobos from Gigabyte and ASUS)
• the more customers that jump on 16 threads CPUs, the higher the chances of game developers taking the time to optimize their games
• Ryzen caches run at the CPU clock speed; the infinity fabric runs at half the speed of memory, it doesn't have an unlocked multiplier because it's very important to be synchronized with the memory because of this coherency mechanism
• reinforcing the statement that AM4 will be compatible with future releases of Zen. We can expect a change when PCI 4.0 and DDR5 show up.
• another confirmation that TR won't be called Ryzen 9, adding another axe hit to the so called "leaked" Ryzen 9 lineup
• AGESA 1.0.0.6 will bring improvements that will make users "very happy"; more info in the future blog post
• pins on the CPU are cheaper for the consumer, including the cost on the mobo as well
• they refused to dab on camera because they did not want to end up on r/FellowKids/ and /r/CorporateMemes
• they're still debating of open sourcing the Ryzen's PSP
• there's no problem with inter-CCX latency

 

[w3rd]

Woo-hoo! At last I've got Ryzen 7 1700X. Building PC based on it was fun XD
Dad was even helping me to create a bracket for liquid cooling in his garage because I couldn't wait Cooler Master to ship it to my shitty godforsaken country XD
In the end everything works just perfectly and I overclocked it to 4.0 GHz.
Here's my MV of building it.

Great Video and welcome to the forums.

You should repost that video in it's own thread, or sub-forum so it gets more exposure. Because it will get lost in the middle of this thread soon.

 

[Mopetar]

Here is fine. The last thing we need is another mini-thread that splits discussion and inevitably gets pushed off the front page when it dies out.

 

[Jan Olšan]

AMD's Robert Hallock (head of global technical marketing), James Prior (product manager) and Donny? (desktop processor manager?) video Q&A.

Videocardz has posted the video's timestamps if you're interested in a particular topic.

Summary of new and interesting bits:

• more mini ITX boards coming in the next 2 months
• ITX boards are harder to manufacture and take more time to come to market because the layout are more condensed
• a blog post will show up before of the month to talk about the AGESA 1.0.0.6 update that some manufactures have already released betas of (some mobos from Gigabyte and ASUS)
• the more customers that jump on 16 threads CPUs, the higher the chances of game developers taking the time to optimize their games
• Ryzen caches run at the CPU clock speed; the infinity fabric runs at half the speed of memory, it doesn't have an unlocked multiplier because it's very important to be synchronized with the memory because of this coherency mechanism
• reinforcing the statement that AM4 will be compatible with future releases of Zen. We can expect a change when PCI 4.0 and DDR5 show up.
• another confirmation that TR won't be called Ryzen 9, adding another axe hit to the so called "leaked" Ryzen 9 lineup
• AGESA 1.0.0.6 will bring improvements that will make users "very happy"; more info in the future blog post
• pins on the CPU are cheaper for the consumer, including the cost on the mobo as well
• they refused to dab on camera because they did not want to end up on r/FellowKids/ and /r/CorporateMemes
• they're still debating of open sourcing the Ryzen's PSP
• there's no problem with inter-CCX latency

One other bit that I caught (the volume was too low on my 2in1 subnotebook so I hope I'm not wrong) in the video is that supposedly AGESA 1.0.0.6 improves the function of Virtualization and possibly virtualised I/O (IOMMU groups). See at 34m:03s.

 

[imported_jjj]

One other bit that I caught (the volume was too low on my 2in1 subnotebook so I hope I'm not wrong) in the video is that supposedly AGESA 1.0.0.6 improves the function of Virtualization and possibly virtualised I/O (IOMMU groups). See at 34m:03s.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/05/25/community-update-4-lets-talk-dram
If you’re the kind of user that just needs (or loves!) virtualization every day, then AGESA 1.0.0.6-based firmware will be a blessing for you thanks to fresh support for PCI Express® Access Control Services (ACS). ACS primarily enables support for manual assignment of PCIe® graphics cards within logical containers called “IOMMU groups.” The hardware resources of an IOMMU group can then be dedicated to a virtual machine.

 

[Mopetar]

Im surprised no one posted this yet, but it's easy to miss things that get relegated to the side bar, but support for faster memory is on the way: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11447/amd-announces-ryzen-agesa-1006-update

Up to DDR-4000 and finer granularity on frequency.