Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[torlen11cc]

Depends on the game and what you do besides it (other open applications). The more you multitask, the better Ryzen gets due to more cores.

Then most reviews don't bench multiplayer and battlefield series is known for being multi-threaded and needing a lot of CPU power especially at 64+ players. So BF4 or BFOne 64 player maps, the Ryzen 5 will beat even an OCed 7600k due to 2 more cores and 3 times more threads (4 vs 12). In other games especially single player i5 can have an edge.

And if I'm doing a lot of editing then would you suggest a Ryzen CPU or a 7700 CPU?

 

[sushukka]

And if I'm doing a lot of editing then would you suggest a Ryzen CPU or a 7700 CPU?

Easiest question here so far. Definitely Ryzen and the more cores the better. If you're fine with some overclocking the best bang for the buck is R7 1700.

 

[tamz_msc]

And if I'm doing a lot of editing then would you suggest a Ryzen CPU or a 7700 CPU?

Photo or video? If it is photo editing, then Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom done scale very well with many cores, single-threaded performance on the 7700 will be better.

Video editing is a completely different story.

 

[ultima_trev]

A month has passed since I've "downgraded" my i5 6600K at 4.4 GHz for the R7 1800X at 3.9 GHz.

In the most single threaded games I play (SWTOR, WOW and SC2) there was pretty much zero perceptible difference. Outside raids/large scale battles FPS would run 120-200 easily and only in raids/high NPC count situations would the FPS dip to around 20-30 (no different than on the Intel system).

Witcher 3 and Watch_Dogs 2 on the other hand are definitely smoother on Ryzen, even if the Ryzen system doesn't have an FPS advantage.

It's also seems the update to the AGESA 1.0.0.4a firmware and being able to run my 4x8GB memory kit at 2666 (up from 2400) has made the Ryzen system notably more responsive, even getting a 7 point boost in Cinebench single-threaded score and 43 point boost in multi-threaded score (159 / 1713 now as opposed to 152 / 1670 prior).

All in all, Ryzen has given me nothing to complain about even compared to Intel's "far superior" IPC and single-threaded capability.

 

[sushukka]

@Elmor: "An early version of the May update looks very good. Most DRAM sticks are now able to reach 3200. But please be patient, every time someone asks for an ETA I will delay the release by one day

"
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/8620#post_26007300

 

[Crumpet]

@Elmor: "An early version of the May update looks very good. Most DRAM sticks are now able to reach 3200. But please be patient, every time someone asks for an ETA I will delay the release by one day

"
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/8620#post_26007300

Is that why Vega's so late?

 

[IEC]

@Elmor: "An early version of the May update looks very good. Most DRAM sticks are now able to reach 3200. But please be patient, every time someone asks for an ETA I will delay the release by one day

"
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/8620#post_26007300

@elmor
Any ideas why my ram won't work above 2666 strap other than the "32 gig sets don't work" that you cited on the first page?

Yes, your sticks will most likely work at higher ratios with the coming update.

 

[3DVagabond]

Real world benchmarks for us gpu bound plebs. R5 1600@3.9GHz ~ 7700k @5GHz > 1500x@4GHz ~7600k @5GHz > Locked i5's

So no stock Intel tests? I'm not a fan of O/C v O/c or stock only. Needs stk v stk.

 

[hotstocks]

It will not be a side grade. You are gimping it with your memory. Get two 8 gb sticks of G.skill Tridentz 3200 C14 or 3600 C16. Running ram at 3200 makes a HUGE difference in games, and running it at 3600mhz hopefully in the future (May) will obliterate an i7-7700.

 

[hotstocks]

@Elmor I could care less about 3200mhz. Will May bring us 3600mhz with 2X8 Samsung B-die?

 

[DrMrLordX]

I am hoping for available ratios between DDR4-3600 - DDR4-4000 in May, but I may be hoping for too much. Some chips may not make it with fabric speeds that high.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

 

[HurleyBird]

Beautiful.

 

[french toast]

We need one of those cherry picking charts for power consumption, would like to show another infamous forum member somewhere else.

 

[sushukka]

I am hoping for available ratios between DDR4-3600 - DDR4-4000 in May, but I may be hoping for too much. Some chips may not make it with fabric speeds that high.

I don't think it's anywhre realistic. Remember that the official supported i7700K memory speed is still only 2400MHz. OC market is so small that there are sadly no point of putting big effort for satisfying the super enthusiasts' 0.01%.

 

[zinfamous]

makes it pretty obvious that the holy standard for measuring/benchmarking such hardware is in no way objective, completely unscientific, and essentially meaningless. Hopefully more of these charts and more forum discussions push the industry (media) to adopt a real objective set of standards, especially reflecting real-world use scenarios, appropriately weighted with properly informative synthetics.

Imagine that.

 

[sushukka]

makes it pretty obvious that the holy standard for measuring/benchmarking such hardware is in no way objective, completely unscientific, and essentially meaningless. Hopefully more of these charts and more forum discussions push the industry (media) to adopt a real objective set of standards, especially reflecting real-world use scenarios, appropriately weighted with properly informative synthetics.

Imagine that.

But but, where is the fun after that? This thread for example would have only one page if even that.

 

[happy medium]

The Ryzen Cpu's only lose to a stock 7600k by ~ 12% overall and a 7700k well it destroys them.
If you overclock, the Intel cpu's would be even more ahead.
I only see Ryzan cpu's gaining minimal Fps when overclocked, because they don't overclock much.

Nice chart though ,it about sums it up.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

makes it pretty obvious that the holy standard for measuring/benchmarking such hardware is in no way objective, completely unscientific, and essentially meaningless. Hopefully more of these charts and more forum discussions push the industry (media) to adopt a real objective set of standards, especially reflecting real-world use scenarios, appropriately weighted with properly informative synthetics.

Imagine that.

The only thing worse than the inconsistent numbers are the egos of the reviewers and their conclusions. They all somehow believe their numbers are absolute.

We desperately need some kind of standardization.

edit:
Nice analysis happy...

 

[CatMerc]

https://twitter.com/ryanshrout/status/854152215526813698

Looks like Ryzen's IMC is NOT outsourced. It was built in house.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I don't think it's anywhre realistic. Remember that the official supported i7700K memory speed is still only 2400MHz. OC market is so small that there are sadly no point of putting big effort for satisfying the super enthusiasts' 0.01%.

It's either higher RAM speeds or asynchronous infinity fabric operation. You don't seem to appreciate how much everyone wants to get that fabric speed up higher.

 

[zinfamous]

The Ryzen Cpu's only lose to a stock 7600k by ~ 12% overall and a 7700k well it destroys them.
If you overclock, the Intel cpu's would be even more ahead.
I only see Ryzan cpu's gaining minimal Fps when overclocked, because they don't overclock much.

Nice chart though ,it about sums it up.

this guy....

 

[sushukka]

It's either higher RAM speeds or asynchronous infinity fabric operation. You don't seem to appreciate how much everyone wants to get that fabric speed up higher.

Of course I would like to have that. Point is that 3200MHz is already way more than the current DDR4 standard frequencies suggest. I have understood that all the chips are anyway based on trimmed 2133/2400 sticks. I'm just afraid that if the very high-end 3600MHz+ sticks works only occasionally, there will be little effort to make it better. It's just not profitable enough when big masses are just fine with 2400-3200MHz level. It's AMD's architectural design that their CPU speed relies on the memory bus speed. It's nice to know that you can make your rig faster by just updating memory, but DDR memory market is just so much bigger than AMD and it's advancing very slowly.

 

[coffeemonster]

The Ryzen Cpu's only lose to a stock 7600k by ~ 12% overall and a 7700k well it destroys them.
If you overclock, the Intel cpu's would be even more ahead.
I only see Ryzan cpu's gaining minimal Fps when overclocked, because they don't overclock much.

Nice chart though ,it about sums it up.

thank goodness the expert weighed in.
no need to substantiate any of your claims mighty sir, your confidence and commanding avatar is proof enough for me

 

[Keyvan Shahrdar]

Every new leak make it look even better.
But.. I want a 4c/8t APU, with at least a gtx750 level integrated GPU, that would be insane.

Does a faster CPU really affect performance even though we are locked to the speed of the drive access?