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kei2110 · Jul 17, 2003

one more thing, my audio isn't working.. is there some kind of fix for this? no matter how many times i install/reinstall the drivers, it wont detect an audio device

(btw im using winxp pro)

kevman · Jul 17, 2003

Decided to go with two 512MB HyperX 3500 sticks for my setup. I picked em up seperately from outpost for $119. Is there advantage to the dual 1GB 2x512 kit vs two seperate ones? I figure the cost difference wasn't worth it.

Kevin

roystarman · Jul 17, 2003

Does your system still boot? If so try to create the BIOS boot disc as specifed and run the batch file. This should do it. If not BIOS migh be corrupted. You might get it back by resetting CMOS but no guarantees. As for sound worry about the BIOS first. Once it is fixed you should be able to turn it back on.

Kongzi · Jul 18, 2003

Well I got all my stuff today and just got it up and running. Now when I was setting up the cpu and hsf, I just blobbed the paste on the core and put the heatsink on. Then I saw something on the internet about spreading it out evenly. I then took the hsf back off and tried to spread it out a bit better but it looked like it had become slightly clumpy. I'm assuming this could really mess up my cooling. In the BIOS it says 50c idle. Now I know that the Abit boards report high, but what is a good temp on an Abit board, and a good temp in reality?

Also, if anyone can provide me with some info about repasting my cpu and hsf properly please do so.

KillerBob · Jul 18, 2003

Originally posted by: kevman
Does the Zalman have a fan? I'm somewhat confused...

No, I haven't put a fan on my Zalman NB32, but you can if you want to. The original fan fits fine on the NB32J, but then you still have the noise issue, and no better performance.

My Zalman is very hot to the touch, indicating it is working. The reason why some temps have dropped, I realise, is probably that the hot air from the NB isn't being spread around anymore. However, my system is just as stable as ever, and VERY quiet.

KillerBob · Jul 18, 2003

Originally posted by: Kongzi
... what is a good temp on an Abit board, and a good temp in reality?

Also, if anyone can provide me with some info about repasting my cpu and hsf properly please do so.

Regarding temps, so much have been said, and I don't think the discussion has ever really been finished off. I believe a 50 degree CPU temp at idle is a bit on the high side, and your full load should not exceed 65! There is no damage until after 80 (according to forums), but the life-expectancy of your CPU decreases the hotter it runs.

My temps (measured using the Winbond diode settings in MBM5) are;

CPU idle: 38-45
CPU load: 55-65

PWM idle: 30-34
PWM load: 39-43

I think the PWM diode is located between the CPU and the voltage transistors???

Regarding the paste: You should spread it out evenly, and very thinly, using a credit card, or something else plastic and with a straight/sharp edge. Only put it on the CPU core, and don't move the HSF around to much after touching base.

Kongzi · Jul 18, 2003

Ok, how can I go about removing the old paste from the cpu and hsf. I've read you use alcohol on the cpu and rub gently and use something like goof off on the heatsink. I don't have any of this goof off stuff... would iso-whatever alcohol work ok on both the cpu and hsf?

Ketchup · Jul 18, 2003

If you are going to just reapply, there is no need to worry about being to thorough with the removal. Actually, you want to remove it from the heatsink pretty lightly because the paste will fill in all the little imperfections in the heatsink. There is a good tutorial on www.articsilver.com on installing thermal material.

Kongzi · Jul 18, 2003

Thanks for all the help guys. I've done quite a bit of upgrading on my old computer but building a new computer can still be a bit overwhelming (especially when your case doesn't come with any documentation lol). I got some more thermal compound and it said to clean the cpu and hsf good with some alcohol which is what I'm gonna do. Hopefully I can lower the temps to around 40c. I also have one more thing to ask

. Are there any good guides on the net as to how to arrange your wires and keep them tidy. I kinda threw everything together last night and I have the case open with wires hanging out everywhere and I need to go back and get it done right.

Kongzi · Jul 18, 2003

Well I just cleaned the hsf and cpu and reapplied paper thin amounts of paste to each side. Temps remain the same though. It seems to level off at 56c on idle. I haven't installed an OS yet to test load but I'm scared of what that's going to be lol. I'm just not going to mess with it anymore and it sounds like the Abit boards artificially monitor the temps 10-15c too high of what they actually just after reading some stuff on the Abit forums.

kevman · Jul 18, 2003

anyone notice Abit's new flash menu, a bios flash utility that can be run from within Windows? pretty neat I say!

KillerBob · Jul 18, 2003

Yep, that new flash menu looks like an easy way to backup your BIOS as well.

mroleg · Jul 18, 2003

Been using it since beta. Excellent tool for bios flushing.

vfx · Jul 18, 2003

I suggest that everyone try to avoid ABIT brand. They care about good reviews only. It took them one month to send me the RMA board and when i received it. The board missed the heatsink retension frame. See how screw up they are. you can read on problems with their boards at their forum.

Ramses · Jul 19, 2003

Well, stuff got here today, all is up and running.

First oddity..

Fresh install of XP Pro SP1 on two Raptor's on ICH5R, no power managment.
More specificaly, no hybernate or standby. The standby button on the little shutdown box in XP is greyed out, and there is no enable hybernate tab in power managment section of control panel. Any clue?
I updated to most recent bios before install, using newest chipset and SATA drivers from Intel. Everything runs fine, just no hybernate or standby. Says ACPI is functioning fine, no flast in device manager. I don't get it. Going to install XP again I guess..

Is XP "that" much better with hyperthreading than win2k?

kevman · Jul 19, 2003

Originally posted by: Ramses
Well, stuff got here today, all is up and running.

First oddity..

Fresh install of XP Pro SP1 on two Raptor's on ICH5R, no power managment.
More specificaly, no hybernate or standby. The standby button on the little shutdown box in XP is greyed out, and there is no enable hybernate tab in power managment section of control panel. Any clue?
I updated to most recent bios before install, using newest chipset and SATA drivers from Intel. Everything runs fine, just no hybernate or standby. Says ACPI is functioning fine, no flast in device manager. I don't get it. Going to install XP again I guess..

Is XP "that" much better with hyperthreading than win2k?

I saw this on my laptop once, it was becuae I didn't have the correct Video drivers installed (beats me!??) anyway after installing the vid drivers the power management worked hibernate etc. Not sure if this is the same situation for you, but I figured I'd mention it.

K

Ramses · Jul 19, 2003

Right on the nose Kevman. I was just heading back here to report, I happened to install vid drivers and boom, stand by and hibernate.

NOW...

Someone tell my why when I first updated to the newest bios, there was still an option to disable the silicone image SATA bios, and now, after running the web updater(just to see if it worked), there is not an option to disable it. Strange..

KillerBob · Jul 19, 2003

Originally posted by: vfx
I suggest that everyone try to avoid ABIT brand. They care about good reviews only. It took them one month to send me the RMA board and when i received it. The board missed the heatsink retension frame. See how screw up they are. you can read on problems with their boards at their forum.

That's the price to pay for the best MoBo on the scene right now.

Also, if you do replace the HSF/fan with a Zalman for instance, and the MoBo later on needs to be RMAed; just take off the Zalman and reattach the originals. I bet I can make it look as if it was never touched. The only thing, the original thermal gunk, cannot neccessarily be replaced, but you can use something similar, and they will never know!

BTW, try RMAing something to Soyo, to Asus or Epox, and you'll fine just as bad RMA agreements.

kevman · Jul 19, 2003

Well just mounted the mobo to my lian li case gettign ready to AS3 my 2.4 and get my system up an running.

should I install Xp ahd then update the bios or shoudl I update to latest bios before doing anything firsT? what do you guys think?

thatsright · Jul 19, 2003

Originally posted by: kevman
Well just mounted the mobo to my lian li case gettign ready to AS3 my 2.4 and get my system up an running.

should I install Xp ahd then update the bios or shoudl I update to latest bios before doing anything firsT? what do you guys think?

The BIOS should always be updated first. It really is the foundation of your new PC, and you want XP to see a perfect MB setup when it installs. Just bust out an ancient floppy and do your magic.

Thats my $0.02

Kongzi · Jul 19, 2003

*sigh* Well I think I've decided I'm going to RMA this board. The sound is just horrible. I don't approve of the way Abit has handled the situation either, or lack of handling the situation. Also after using it awhile the NB fan just gives me a killer headache with it's high-pitched noise.

Ramses · Jul 20, 2003

OK, can anyone explain or point me to a good info spot on this memory timing business? There's the regular cas and ras and all that, then the game accelarator setting, and the settings under that. Looks like something I should be tweaking..

Running a 2.4c and Corsair 3200LL...

And I think I've avoided installing the Audigy2 as long as I can... ~gulp~

KillerBob · Jul 20, 2003

People in other forums have received the new HSF/fan, as supposed to just getting the old fixed.

I talked to Scan, and they simply didn't want to do anything than me sending in my MoBo, waiting 3 weeks, getting it back with a new "old" setup.

Has the policy changed, or are people talking directly to Abit?

thatsright · Jul 20, 2003

I saw online that ABIT is selling the newer style HSF combo with the much quieter fan, and redesigned heatsink. I also saw the Thermaltake Tiger 1 Fan & Heatsink for the NB. I currently have my CPU Overclocked, but not as high as it could be and this could be due to the current NB fan, I guess? So what I need is a ultra quiet NB fan that goes well with Overclocking my 2.4 c.

So which would you get, the Tiger 1 NB HSF, or the New, redesigned ABIT NB fan. They are both the same price, but I?d like to get a few opinions on which one is the best for O?Cing AND quietness. Thanks

Kongzi · Jul 20, 2003

It's a Sunday and I can't get a hold of Abit on the phone, but are they replacing and fixing the NB fan and sound problems that people are having? If so, I might just consider doing this instead of getting a new mobo. I dunno.

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