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Kolu

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
anyone had to replace the NB fan yet? mine is getting real loud and wanna change it out before it dies. i would like something that works better than the one in there too. nothing passive.

thanks

JB

Hi,
Maybe Swiftech MCX159-P? It is very silent and even suit with superb Zalman CNPS7000 :)
Reflect this: http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcx159.asp
and installation: http://www.gruntville.com/reviews/heatsinks/swiftech_mcx159/page4.php

Best regards,
Kolu
 

AEnigmaWI

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I am replacing an Asus P4P800 Deluxe with an IC7-G Max 2...

I have been reading through a large majority of this thread, and it seems that there are still issues with the 2.1 BIOS ? Any recommendations on the most stable BIOS release so far? I have had less than good luck with the Asus, and I am really hoping for a better experience with the Abit..

Another question.. does the speed of the USB bus fluctuate with the FSB ? My ASUS board reported some odd speeds through the USB bus, which caused a couple of my devices to act oddly. Are there general issues using USB devices on an overclocked system? Should I stick with stock speed if I want to use my scanner / camera etc.. reliably?
 

etrin

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I posted a few days ago about rma to abit.
Before I could call a person at work with an ic7 board said
that with the 2.1 bios he was having problems with sata
conflicting or killing his std ata controller.

I was wondering if the 2.1 bios could also be the reason
my serial port works but not correctly...constantly timing out
and the internal usb cuts on and off?

I used the windows flash (fist time) with the 2.1 bios could
that have also caused me problems with the flash?

just shotgun tech before I rma the board

thanks for any ideas

etrin
 

Shimmishim

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yeah i never used the windows flash utility

why don't you try flashing in DOS and see if that fixes it..

also, make sure you clear the CMOS after you flash... :)
 

KillerBob

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Guys,

They keep updating the BIOS for the IC7-G, but I keep seeing no changes. Should I continue to update as well, is anything important being changed, or is it a waste of time?
 

Shimmishim

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though on the surface nothing seems to be fixed....

bandwidth issues... ram issues, things of that nature are fixed with new bios updates...

such as the addition of support for prescott...


it's up to you to update... :)
 

Coherence

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Wow, this is a big thread!

I'm having the same issue with noise coming from my chipset fan. When powering up, it makes an odd grinding noise for a few minutes before going silent again.

In fact, when I last checked the website, my IC7-G MaxII doesn't look like the same board! Did they change the color of the board and put on a different chipset fan since it first came out?
 

JonnyBlaze

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Coherence, that means the fan is going to die. the same thing happened to mine. it made the noise for a while before it died tho. i bought a replacement, the new fan abit uses on the boards now for $5 somewhere online. if you cant find it, ill look it up for ya

JBlaze
 

Syn1axErr0r

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Ok, So after reading through all the pages on these forums regarding, the Abit IC7, and the Asus P4C800, and doing some various other research around the web, on the Gigabyte 8KNXP, and the MSI NEO-LSR, I still cant formulate a conclusion on what board I would choose. I dont know if it is as a big deal as it is, but over at newegg, people seem to be bothered by the 8KNXP due to various ram detection problems. On the other hand tomshardware seemed to like it, because of the amount of stuff included in it. Right now I am using a gigabyte board and have loved it, but am anything but loving the price tag of the 8KNXP. Moving on to the MSI, I think some people were having some issues with the bios on this board, or something. Although it is very inexpensive. The Asus board I have heard good things about, and used to own one. The only thing I dont like is the price, but other than that I guess its good. I then moved onto the IC7, because it seemed cost effective, and sadly enough I liked the way the northbridge fan looked. From what I have read here it seems stable, and fast, both of what I am looking for. I guess what Im really asking is could you guys make a solid recommendation for me. Some info about what I would use the board for. Gaming, no overclocking, I just want a solid and reliable board, I dont need onboard lan, I dont need onboard raid, thats pretty much what I will use it for. The processor will be what I have right now, 2.4g 533mhz fsb. Ram http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-480&depa=0 ,. At the moment I am leaning towards the IC7, that woul be why I posted in this thread. Lastly, I am sorry about the long post, as I know that they suck to read. Thnx in advance.
 

Shimmishim

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if you want a cheap 875 chipset board with nice features and just stability, then i say get the ic7.

i had mine for over 6 months and it served me very well! :)

i think you'll really enjoy it. it was fast and lots of fun! :)

Coherence: if you need a NB fan, I can give you the one off of my ic7 if you'll pay for shipping!
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: Syn1axErr0r
Ok thnx for the speedy response. Hey by the way, I know that there are two different fans that came on this motherboard, are the new ones the better looking one, the one with the headsink with fins, or the other plastic thing? I guess what Im also asking is has anyone ordered it from newegg lately http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-153&depa=0 ?

they got rid of that old plastic fan a while ago! :)

you'll be gettin' an ic7 with a metal cool looking nb fan!
 

THUGSROOK

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
though on the surface nothing seems to be fixed....

bandwidth issues... ram issues, things of that nature are fixed with new bios updates...

such as the addition of support for prescott...


it's up to you to update... :)

are you kidding?
the best and fastest bios is v14 ~ anything released after that is much less stable and slower.
youll lose 4fsb going from bios v14 to v22.
 

dwb122

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How in the ---- do you install the Zalman ZM-NB47J northbridge heatsink? Where are the friggin mounting holes? There are only these four verticle metal rings for the stock fan (which is noisy crap), and there's no way I can use those for the Zalman. How is everyone else doing it?
 

Coherence

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Originally posted by: dwb122
How in the ---- do you install the Zalman ZM-NB47J northbridge heatsink? Where are the friggin mounting holes? There are only these four verticle metal rings for the stock fan (which is noisy crap), and there's no way I can use those for the Zalman. How is everyone else doing it?
Which leads to my question, can a new NB fan be installed without removing the board from the case? I'd rather not take my entire computer apart if I don't have to, but I should replace my noisy plastic fan with the new metal one for this board.
 

thatsright

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Originally posted by: dwb122
How in the ---- do you install the Zalman ZM-NB47J northbridge heatsink? Where are the friggin mounting holes? There are only these four verticle metal rings for the stock fan (which is noisy crap), and there's no way I can use those for the Zalman. How is everyone else doing it?


I mounted the Zalman NB-32J Northbridge Heatsink on my MCH last summer. The NB-32J is an older variant of the NB47J I believe, with the 32J having a golden colored Heatsink and pins, instead of blue. But from the looks of it, I think you can just modify the 47J Heatsink in the same manner as I did with my 32J.

(HOWEVER, you must have the old style Heatsink/Fan combo that came with the IC7 Rev 1.0 boards. It is a light blue color and is made entirely of plastic. You will need this older style IC7 HSF combo just for the metal retention clips that you will then use on your Zalman. If you don't have the old style retention clips then it might not work. Since the NB chip does not have any retention holes around it, the only way you will be able to mount your NB47J is to use the old circular metal retention clip from the old style IC7 HSF.)

First off, start by removing the original Plastic Heatsink/Fan combo, it is dead-easy! You take off the flat fan by un-clicking the connectors. Then you have the HSF, and if it does not easily come off by just twisting the HSF, then use some acetone-, or alcohol-dipped cotton Q-tips, and a razor-blade. When the HSF is off, use some thermal cleaner, or more alcohol, get the NB chip clean, and get on with the Zalman.

The Zalman needs a bit of work: nip off three pins in each corner (for 12 total), and file the stubs down so they are flush with the base. DO NOT file any of the base away. Then the old IC7 HSF retention ring fits snuggly around the Zalman, and you are ready to attach the HSF. If you can BARELY get the retention clip to fit into the retention mounts, file the corners of the Zalman down a bit more, and I mean BARELY file; as too much filing will sink the retention clip down too far, and then you will have NO pressure to keep the 47J attached to the retention mounts. BUT, the 47J may have a thicker base than my 32J had? If this is the case then just file down the base a minimal amount so that the circular retention clips are able to fit into the retention mounts around the NB chip. No glue or epoxy or anything is required. The circular retention mount will then just slide over your Zalman and rest on the 4 clipped corners.

Once you have finished the 'pre-fit' process. Prepare the Zalman for final mounting on the NB chip. Use some Artic Silver (a very thin layer) and put the Zalman at any angle you wish on top of the NB, using the ring to hold it onto the NB chip. Here are important, detailed instructions on how to apply Arctic Silver Once your done applying the AS, you want to make sure you have level, contact once you put the Zalman on.

30-60 minutes (if you really clean the NB and polish the Zalman.)

It really is best to take your MOBO out of the case to do this, even more so since I did not and I'm sure it took an extra hour with my fiddling around inside my case at odd angels, and I didn't get the best line of sight to make 100% sure I had 100% contact of the Zalman and the NB chip.

Once you are done, put the Mobo back in the case and make sure you re-attach everything. Fire up the PC and if you notice it crashing after a few minutes then you might not have solid contact on the NB chip. If this isn't the case then it worked!! Leave your case open for an hour or so, and then put your fingers on the Zalman NB fins. It should be hot, which means it?s working. Also, don't expect your temps too drop at all. If anything they should remain the same or go up 1 or 2 degrees C, since there is no active cooling of the NB chip.

Hope this helps. Let us know how it goes. If you have any other questions PM me.
 

thatsright

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Originally posted by: Coherence
Which leads to my question, can a new NB fan be installed without removing the board from the case? I'd rather not take my entire computer apart if I don't have to, but I should replace my noisy plastic fan with the new metal one for this board.[/quote]


Short Answer: Sort of
Better Answer: No

Are you installing the Zalman Northbridge Heatsink, or the newer style all metal, dark blue IC7/IS7 Heatsink??


When I installed my Zalman NB Heatsink last summer, I sort of rushed it and installed it with the IC7 still inside the case. I was able to install it properly, but I regret doing it this way and I'm sure It would of taken 1/2 as long if I didn't half ass it and just take the Mobo out of the case. The most difficult part of the whole process was the mounting and I'm sure this was due to the IC7 being in the case. Trying to maneuver your hands inside a filled case, and then you don't have the best line of sight to make sure you're getting the best contact on the NB chip with the Zalman.

If your just referring to the newer style ABIT IC7/IS7 Northbridge Heatsink/Fans that are made of all metal and have a 'flower' type Heatsink; then you can really do it either ways. I was able to install my new style ABIT IC7 NB Heatsink/fan with the IC7 still installed. This time I kind of half-assed it, but it was relatively quick anyway.

Just make sure you follow, to a T, the instructions on Arctic Silver Website for their stuff. But first make sure you get all the old IC7 NB Heatsink pink thermal tape 'gunk' off of the IC7 NB chip. You want a totally clean NB chip before you mount anything back on. The NB chip should be a deep blue, and you will be able to see the text stamped on by Intel if ya do a good job.

Good luck
 

Coherence

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Thatsright: Yes, I plan on getting the new A-bit version of the fan, the blue metal one with the round fins. I found it through their website, they link to a place called excaliburPC (I think) to sell their aftermarket parts and accessories. Since I have a nice large Antec case, and fairly good cable management, I may give it a shot without taking the whole thing apart, since it sounds like it's a simple clip-on job. I'd hate to deal with the Zalman, from the sounds of it, having to shave parts off, etc, even if it's a better cooler. (Or, I may just wait for the liquid-cooling solution I've been considering.)
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: Shimmishim
though on the surface nothing seems to be fixed....

bandwidth issues... ram issues, things of that nature are fixed with new bios updates...

such as the addition of support for prescott...


it's up to you to update... :)

are you kidding?
the best and fastest bios is v14 ~ anything released after that is much less stable and slower.
youll lose 4fsb going from bios v14 to v22.

ah kiss my butt thugs!!!

:)

okay fine you lose some fsb but it has to fix some ram compatability issues of stuff doesn't it? or am i just making this up?

hehehe.. whatever, i'm sure you know best thugs! :)
 

KillerBob

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Well, perhaps one day they'll fix the stability issue when you have 4x512Mb RAM installed. I can't run the performance settings at anything but Auto all the way. With 2x512Mb I had it set at F1, and it is noticable the difference. So, upgrading to 2G actually slowed down my PC (no PAT).
 

THUGSROOK

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: Shimmishim
though on the surface nothing seems to be fixed....
bandwidth issues... ram issues, things of that nature are fixed with new bios updates...
such as the addition of support for prescott...
it's up to you to update... :)

are you kidding?
the best and fastest bios is v14 ~ anything released after that is much less stable and slower.
youll lose 4fsb going from bios v14 to v22.

ah kiss my butt thugs!!!

:)

okay fine you lose some fsb but it has to fix some ram compatability issues of stuff doesn't it? or am i just making this up?

in my case (and many others), they cause ram issues :(

:)
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: Shimmishim
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
Originally posted by: Shimmishim
though on the surface nothing seems to be fixed....
bandwidth issues... ram issues, things of that nature are fixed with new bios updates...
such as the addition of support for prescott...
it's up to you to update... :)

are you kidding?
the best and fastest bios is v14 ~ anything released after that is much less stable and slower.
youll lose 4fsb going from bios v14 to v22.

ah kiss my butt thugs!!!

:)

okay fine you lose some fsb but it has to fix some ram compatability issues of stuff doesn't it? or am i just making this up?

in my case (and many others), they cause ram issues :(

:)

lol... :)

then again i only used two sticks of ram ever in my ic7 before i killed it so... hehehe... i wouldn't know!

 

Pilsnerpete

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Hey, guys! I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the hardware interrupt sharing table on pg. 3-23 of the manual. I want to put my soundcard and nic in slots that won't cause problems with agp or anything. It looks like slot 1 is the only one to avoid. Is this accurate? Thanks!
 

Coherence

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Pilsnerpete:

That's generally the case. You shouldn't put a card in the PCI slot closest to the AGP since they usually share an IRQ.

One question, however: why aren't you using the on-board LAN? It's my understanding that the on-board Intel Ethernet LAN controller on the IC7 is better than any separate PCI NIC's out there. It doesn't work like, say, most on-board sound chips that run off CPU cycles. At least, that's what I understood reading reviews of the 875P boards when they first came out.
 

Pilsnerpete

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I didn't read up on the differences a whole lot b4 I bought it. Maybe I should've gone for the higher end version. Didn't know the onboard lan wasn't on the pci bus. Ah well. Thanks for the info!

[edit] Is it worth $30 more to get the nic off the pci bus? Do you notice a performance improvement in anything?
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