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Red Squirrel

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Oh yeah I get all that but you did make a good point, as the ones that you always play with and do yourself don't tend to do as well as the ones set and forget that are managed by a bank unless you really get lucky. Investing is a full time job and most of us doing it on the side are rarely going to do better than the banks do.
 
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Charmonium

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Oh yeah I get all that but you did make a good point, as the ones that you always play with and do yourself don't tend to do as well as the ones set and forget that are managed by a bank unless you really get lucky. Investing is a full time job and most of us doing it on the side are rarely going to do better than the banks do.

You seem to have an unusual system there. I've never heard of banks here making actual investment decisions.

Actively managed mutual funds do some of that but the mutual fund itself will generally have global restrictions which limit their freedom. So for example, say you invest in a pharmaceutical mufu (mutual fund) or ETF (exchange traded fund). They have some freedom in terms of picking and choosing drug makers, properly balancing the portfolio and such. But let them try to buy a million shares of FoMoCo (Ford) and if they can even do that, they catch all manner feces - from the SEC, the exchanges, other regulators, etc.

But the way you describe it, it sounds like the bank has free reign. You can't even specify an industry sector. That sounds a lot like what we call hedge funds here. While some of those do make oogobs of money, the fee structures are insane.

You must have fiduciaries in Canada. Their obligation is to you and your financial health. So they can't shill for shitty companies that basically pay off the broker to buy shares for their clients. That's why I have a burning hatred for brokers. They basically have a license to steal.

I really hope that's not how your banks work and you have at least some level of control over your investments.

If not, take a trip to the states and set up an account with Vanguard, or more actively traded mufus. You'll need a broker too in order to buy things like ETFs and individual stocks. But those are your decisions. Just ignore whatever "hot new stocks" they try to push on you. They're taking care of old number one with those transactions and not you.

Just as an aside, a lot of countries have capital controls which serve to limit how much of their currency can flow to another jurisdiction. You tend to see this in places like China that have "managed economies." I'd be surprised if they have any meaningful capital controls.

IOW, if the govt isn't trying to control the outflow of capital, you should have a free hand to send your money wherever. The worst part about the process will be converting your Loonies to USD. Last I checked, the exchange rate of Loonies to USD is brutal. So maybe see if there's at least a chance you might get a more favorable exchange rate in the near future. Just don't waste a lot of time on this sort of minutia. The sooner you get the cash where it needs to go, the sooner it can start working for you.

To start, Vanguard might be your best choice and they're ideal for the buy and forget type investor.

There are also DRIPs (direct reinvestment plans) where you pick say a dozen individual stocks (preferably ones with high market capitalization (think IBM, Merck, AMD, Broadcom, etc.). Make your initial purchases and then let it ride. The company I use is Computershare.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I have some say, but they manage all the complexity of picking individual stocks, and do a better job than I ever would. I basically tell them how much risk I'm willing to take (ex: conservative, medium, high) and they do the rest.

I still have separate investments where I can pick my own but that's more for play money, that if I lose it's not a HUGE deal. And, I have lost more than I've made lol. Will see how it works out with index funds as I've moved towards those instead of stocks. But it's still not doing as good as the RRSPs.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
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well shit...


here you go, invest with insider traders like those in Washington, see gains as massive as Pelosi etc
 

Train

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well shit...


here you go, invest with insider traders like those in Washington, see gains as massive as Pelosi etc
The problem is that many of those people (especially the ones in Congress) don't report until the absolute deadline, which could be 30 to 90 days after the trade is made.
 
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Indus

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well shit...


here you go, invest with insider traders like those in Washington, see gains as massive as Pelosi etc

Yeah I saw that earlier.. couldn't believe it was true.

Infact I asked someone here but even they were in disbelief.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Sold 1.7, bought Wkey at 5.95. They own a 19% stake and launching anti quantum satellite device of some sort via SpaceX mid January. Mostly overvalued trade, so watch out.

Wkey and laes are quantum related and this where people are chasing.
Dumped WKEY 10.00, bought Laes back 2.7
 

dasherHampton

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Holy crap I have 100 shares of WKEY I sort forgot about. What's going on there? I almost dumped that stock.

I wish I had more than 100 shares of ASAN.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Holy crap I have 100 shares of WKEY I sort forgot about. What's going on there? I almost dumped that stock.

I wish I had more than 100 shares of ASAN.
All quantum related stocks are on fire, have been for last 60 days

Here is my watch list. Careful, most of these stocks are trading on hype, promise, etc. The company called Quantum below actually has NOTHING to do with quantum computing in any way but merely because of the company name their stock has sky rocketed!

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Unusual Machines and Zena are also not quantum related. QUBIT has been outed in a short report as a possible scam. Like I said, lots of nonsense. Be careful.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Laes took a big shit on me 😞

A second public offering in two weeks. Greedy bastards.dilution.

Edit ..Bought at 2.71, sold premarket just now 3.01. The offering price is 1.90, and they have another 65 million to raise on their shelf filing.
 
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dasherHampton

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So how low is NVDA going to go?

I have April puts out there at $110. Anyone think it might dive that deep?

NET is exceeding my expectations at this point.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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One of my funds dropped 7.5% yesterday when the overall market was flat to up. At first, I thought they might have issued a dividend but nope, the fund just dropped. It is a broad market fund so I'll have see how the managers managed that. I know that they had changed focus of the fund recently to a smaller number of stocks than in the past but still all large cap.
 

KB

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One of my funds dropped 7.5% yesterday when the overall market was flat to up. At first, I thought they might have issued a dividend but nope, the fund just dropped. It is a broad market fund so I'll have see how the managers managed that. I know that they had changed focus of the fund recently to a smaller number of stocks than in the past but still all large cap.
A lot of broad market funds aren't as broad as they claim. Some contain large amounts of big tech like apple or nvidia, so if those go down hard, the whole fund does. I don't know which stock was down, but you can check the holdings on the fund on their website.
 

FelixDeCat

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Quantum continues to rally on hype and nonsense. :)

Speaking of hype and nonsense...here is a non quantum stock that was up over 1,000% today on fomo:

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IronWing

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I looked up Nukkleus. I have no idea. They had an "embedded NGO offering deploys cutting-edge sustainable digital finance solutions in emerging markets and disaster relief areas." But today, they bought a weapons manufacturer that supplies Iron Dome systems. "Venmo for the battlefield®, with BLOCKCHAIN!"
 

bookem dano

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Oct 19, 1999
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Does anyone here like Schwab's website better than Fidelity?

Or Fidelity is the universally adored one here?

(not talking app on phone.. talking actual website)
I liked Scottrade and TD Ameritrade's websites much better than Schwab. I haven't tried Fidelity.

I need to move my HSABank to something that uses Schwab since I have other accounts there and HSABank's move to their own system just annoys me. Anyone use livelyme or transfer their accounts to another Schwab HSA partner?
 
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FelixDeCat

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Dumped all my Quantum stocks. Made a killer trade on QUBT 14 yesterday, 19 today. Sold too soon, hit 23.

Only have 300 shares of Rigetti but sold calls against them due Friday.
 
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dasherHampton

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Maybe I should have sold WKEY when it was at 12 but what the hell. It's only 100 shares.

I've had them for so long I'll just keep sitting on them. Maybe they'll go up to $20 one day.
 
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FelixDeCat

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I looked up Nukkleus. I have no idea. They had an "embedded NGO offering deploys cutting-edge sustainable digital finance solutions in emerging markets and disaster relief areas." But today, they bought a weapons manufacturer that supplies Iron Dome systems. "Venmo for the battlefield®, with BLOCKCHAIN!"
Yeah it's all total bullshit. But I could not resist buying 50 shares at 18.2 premarket.

Current price 27.00

Edit now 49.00 🤔🤪🙉

Edit edit 65! Still holding
 
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Indus

Lifer
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Holy shit, what happened at 3 PM on 12/18/24??

Is this a chinese code or something?? S&P down 2.5, Russel down 4.. correction happening now??
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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I was hoping the correction would hold off until the new year so I could dump new money into the Roth.