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SP33Demon

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1. Is Arian Foster finally a starter this week vs. Indianapolis?

2. Is Antonio Gates worth picking up and starting as a bye-week replacement? His first game this season after serving a suspension. Ladarius Green has played well in Gates' absence.

Other TE options:
Jordan Reed (WAS) at ATL
Owen Daniels (DEN) at OAK
Gary Barnidge (CLE) at BAL

I'm starting Daniels in 2 leagues due to bye weeks to Olsen. The Raiders have allowed the most points to TEs so it's a good bet for a TD. Barnidge - division games at M&T are usually low scoring affairs. The Browns are fielding a top 5 Oline somehow and McCown is coming off a very very good week so Barnidge could hit, but I would still put Daniels' odds of a TD higher.
 

SP33Demon

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So I have a pretty dire situation at RB this week with AP and Miller on bye. PPR league.

I'm going to start Morris and need to pick one more:

Charles Sims v. JAX [20th-ranked D against run]
Booby Dixon @ TEN [5th]
Antonio Andrews v. BUF [7th]
Theo Riddick v AZ [15th]
Chris Thompson @ ATL [31st]

Currently have Sims in the RB2 slot.
Monitor the Karlos Williams situation for Booby - if Karlos can't go then Booby is the number 1 play, but you already knew that.

Andrews has a chance to get the most carries coming off his good game, but Sankey is allegedly the lead dog there and then you have Mccluster in the mix. This is a backfield to avoid if you can like the Giants, but if you're long-term-desperate-for-a-RB Andrews *could* run away with majority carries. Knowing Whiz - it's a longshot bet. I picked him up in my 14 man purely as a hold to see how Andrews does - a great game may convince Whiz to funnel more carries to Andrews - another 12 a game would be nice. Andrews profiles as a short yardage specialist (228lbs) who can also catch passes, but he's not going to get 3rd down work (mccluster). The titans are #4 cumulative graded run blocking on PFF so that line is doing a decent job through a small sample size.

With the others you're going to have to try and predict game flow - which team will most likely be losing with enough time for your passing backs to get work? I like Thompson in garbage time and then Riddick - both are playing dangerous offenses and Atlanta's oline is the best in the league so far, sporting a wicked #2 run blocking. Sims, good luck predicting Bucs vs Jags and even then Doug Martin is coming off a very dominant performance so another one should quell the whole Sims-taking-snaps-away non-story. Both teams suck against the run so that may put a damper on scoring if more rushing is involved.
 

SP33Demon

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Neither Andre Ellington nor Chris Johnson are owned in my league right now. I have space to pick only one of them up, any advice?
Chris Johnson for the rest of the year. Arians made it clear the big free agent signing is the lead dog and CJ?K has performed like it, over 5yd/carry. He's on fire right now and I would question any league that doesn't have him rostered.

Ellington is perpetually hurt and David Johnson will eventually take his spot - he's a bigger and stronger version of Ellington with similar speed. Ellington coming back actually makes them a worse team because David is better than Andre from a talent perspective, and Arians has made it clear Andre has seniority so David is demoted back to special teams.
 
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SP33Demon

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drop one of them and grab miller. he's got a better chance at producing than those other two imo
Totally agree, and Cruz is a lost cause. At least Ellington will offer immediate value before the next injury hits (lol).
 

glenn1

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Monitor the Karlos Williams situation for Booby - if Karlos can't go then Booby is the number 1 play, but you already knew that.

Andrews has a chance to get the most carries coming off his good game, but Sankey is allegedly the lead dog there and then you have Mccluster in the mix. This is a backfield to avoid if you can like the Giants, but if you're long-term-desperate-for-a-RB Andrews *could* run away with majority carries. Knowing Whiz - it's a longshot bet. I picked him up in my 14 man purely as a hold to see how Andrews does - a great game may convince Whiz to funnel more carries to Andrews - another 12 a game would be nice. Andrews profiles as a short yardage specialist (228lbs) who can also catch passes, but he's not going to get 3rd down work (mccluster). The titans are #4 cumulative graded run blocking on PFF so that line is doing a decent job through a small sample size.

With the others you're going to have to try and predict game flow - which team will most likely be losing with enough time for your passing backs to get work? I like Thompson in garbage time and then Riddick - both are playing dangerous offenses and Atlanta's oline is the best in the league so far, sporting a wicked #2 run blocking. Sims, good luck predicting Bucs vs Jags and even then Doug Martin is coming off a very dominant performance so another one should quell the whole Sims-taking-snaps-away non-story. Both teams suck against the run so that may put a damper on scoring if more rushing is involved.

None of the timeshare RB teams are worth investing in this year; whether its NYG, TEN, CLE, DAL, SD, DEN, or WAS none of them are worth the headaches unless you have absolutely no other choice IMHO. The only possible exception is NE where normally it's a crapshoot completely dependent on gameplan any given week who will get the rock, but it looks like Belicheck may be going away from that approach and using Dion Lewis a bit more like a bellcow. Well at least until they get up big and put in LaGarrett Blount as a time eater for the last quarter/half/whatever.
 

MetalMat

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1. Is Arian Foster finally a starter this week vs. Indianapolis?

2. Is Antonio Gates worth picking up and starting as a bye-week replacement? His first game this season after serving a suspension. Ladarius Green has played well in Gates' absence.

Other TE options:
Jordan Reed (WAS) at ATL
Owen Daniels (DEN) at OAK
Gary Barnidge (CLE) at BAL

I have a feeling Gates is going to have a big week. I'm actually starting him in my a league where we have 3 WR/TE slots in my 3rd spot and I don't normally start tight ends in that league.
 

SP33Demon

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I have a feeling Gates is going to have a big week. I'm actually starting him in my a league where we have 3 WR/TE slots in my 3rd spot and I don't normally start tight ends in that league.
Very risky play, who are you starting him over? We don't even know if Gates is up to game speed yet and the guy is 35 y/o. He's going to be TD dependent which you can get with other WRs in that slot who will also rack up more targets/yardage.
 
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MetalMat

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Very risky play, who are you starting him over? We don't even know if Gates is up to game speed yet and the guy is 35 y/o. He's going to be TD dependent IMO.

Nobody, Steve Smith is down with an injury and it's a short bench with 4 spots. Nobody on the wire really sticks out any better than Gates and I don't want to drop a player (Abdullah, Steve Smith, Sproles, Mariota).

The league has a very odd PPR scoring system. You either want a WR/TE to get boat loads of catches or have a high chance of a TD, reception yard points are worth close to squat at 30 yards a point.
 

pete6032

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Need to start one WR and one flex, here are my options: (Pick 2)

Amari Cooper (OAK) vs. DEN (Bad matchup vs Denver Secondary)
Jordan Matthews (PHI) vs. NO (Good matchup against terrible defense)
Jeremy Hill (CIN) vs. SEA (Bad matchup against SEA run defense)
Carlos Hyde (SF) at NYG (Bad matchup against NYG run defense)
Chris Johnson (ARI) at DET (If I can get him off waivers, not sure split between Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington)
 

glenn1

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Need to start one WR and one flex, here are my options: (Pick 2)

Amari Cooper (OAK) vs. DEN (Bad matchup vs Denver Secondary)
Jordan Matthews (PHI) vs. NO (Good matchup against terrible defense)
Jeremy Hill (CIN) vs. SEA (Bad matchup against SEA run defense)
Carlos Hyde (SF) at NYG (Bad matchup against NYG run defense)
Chris Johnson (ARI) at DET (If I can get him off waivers, not sure split between Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington)

Talent over opponent, thus Cooper and Hill. CJ?K is fine also, if you go through the trouble to burn your waiver spot or FAAB for him you might as well start him.
 

SP33Demon

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Oh brother,

Start Ryan Mallet or Hasselback tonight?
Hasselbeck had a pretty bad virus this week, Houston is favored by 4. Both are going to be subpar since I've heard that the Texans are going to run it more this week to mitigate the losses of Washington and Shorts.

If Vontae Davis is out, go with Mallet since DHop will have a much easier time. Otherwise Hasselbeck. Just don't expect much from either.
 

glenn1

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For TNF Luck expected to be out and Hasselbeck is still sick and listed as Questionable which means next man up is Josh Johnson. Frank Gore still sucks. Vontae Davis looking extremely doubtful. On the other side Shorts and Washington out, Foster rushed 8 for 10 last week and Blue has been terrible except for one game at TB.

I'd avoid starting anyone from either team on this shitstorm of a game.
 

SP33Demon

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Need to start one WR and one flex, here are my options: (Pick 2)

Amari Cooper (OAK) vs. DEN (Bad matchup vs Denver Secondary)
Jordan Matthews (PHI) vs. NO (Good matchup against terrible defense)
Jeremy Hill (CIN) vs. SEA (Bad matchup against SEA run defense)
Carlos Hyde (SF) at NYG (Bad matchup against NYG run defense)
Chris Johnson (ARI) at DET (If I can get him off waivers, not sure split between Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington)
Matthews and Hill (or CJ?K). Cooper is going against the #1 pass rush/#1 secondary in the NFL, Derek Carr isn't going to have any time to throw deep for most of the game and I wouldn't be surprised if he has turnovers like every QB before him. Oakland's Pass blocking is ranked very high due to quality of opponents - yet they ranked -3.0 vs the Bengals and Denver's pass rush is exponentially better. Orange Crush 2.0 just too nasty. 43.5 pt over under, no thanks. Philly/NO is 48 and NO has the worst secondary in the league, not to mention Bradford had some impressive plays last week (like the TD thrown on the run to Celek after shrugging off Kerrigan). Matthews is the better bet.

Hill is better suited to the physicality of Seattle and should get more carries than Gio. However, I have seen Hue in the past use Gio against formidable run D's (like last year's Ravens) in dumpoffs to thwart the pass rush. But on the flipside of that, the Bengals have more aerial weapons than last year which should keep Seattle out of the box. Hill and his team's talent make him a must start every week, especially at home and with a top 6 run blocking oline who only had trouble with talented B.more in week 3. While you can make the case that Seattle's run D is just as good or better than B.more, that was a division rivalry game at B.More which is one of the toughest places to win on the road and against the best run stuffer in the league in NT Brandon Williams. Cincy then went up against the 2nd best run stuffer in KC's DT Jaye Howard the next week where C Bodine didn't quite get beaten as much and ran all over him. SEA's Jordan Hill isn't as talented as either, and Seattle's strengths lie in their DE + OLB Bennett and Irvin to stuff the run. This means Hill will probably continue to run up the gut behind big #77 Whitworth and Zeitler, they just need Bodine to not completely fold like a cheap lawn chair like against Brandon Williams.
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/10/...ing-continue-to-shine-along-bengals-offensive
The bottom line is it will be tough sledding for yards but it is doable since 3/5 starters on that line are standouts - holes will be opened eventually.

Carlos Hyde is on a dumpster-fire of a team with a QB who is apologizing for his past week's performance. No way.

CJ?K is blazing hot right now so I wouldn't blame you at all for starting him over Hill, both are on potent offenses. Just keep in mind that DET's run D is as good as NYG's (ranked very similarly), although AZ put up a sneaky good performance run blocking in their loss to the Rams. They forced otherworldly talent Aaron Donald into a negative run blocking grade. This tells me they shouldn't have trouble with DET, but any given Sunday. CJ?K will have easier sledding than Hill but Detroit's weakness is pass coverage so I expect the Cards to attack more through the air, whereas Cincy may not be able to do that vs Legion of Boom and have to go to the ground.
 
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glenn1

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Blue, he's 2nd on the current depth chart.

For one of my Monday/Thursday lineups on Draft Kings I can slot in both of them as my RBs. Houston needs the running game to win tonight. And I don't expect much out of the Colts running game tonight.
 

pete6032

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Matthews and Hill (or CJ?K). Cooper is going against the #1 pass rush/#1 secondary in the NFL, Derek Carr isn't going to have any time to throw deep for most of the game and I wouldn't be surprised if he has turnovers like every QB before him. Oakland's Pass blocking is ranked very high due to quality of opponents - yet they ranked -3.0 vs the Bengals and Denver's pass rush is exponentially better. Orange Crush 2.0 just too nasty. 43.5 pt over under, no thanks. Philly/NO is 48 and NO has the worst secondary in the league, not to mention Bradford had some impressive plays last week (like the TD thrown on the run to Celek after shrugging off Kerrigan). Matthews is the better bet.

Hill is better suited to the physicality of Seattle and should get more carries than Gio. However, I have seen Hue in the past use Gio against formidable run D's (like last year's Ravens) in dumpoffs to thwart the pass rush. But on the flipside of that, the Bengals have more aerial weapons than last year which should keep Seattle out of the box. Hill and his team's talent make him a must start every week, especially at home and with a top 6 run blocking oline who only had trouble with talented B.more in week 3. While you can make the case that Seattle's run D is just as good or better than B.more, that was a division rivalry game at B.More which is one of the toughest places to win on the road and against the best run stuffer in the league in NT Brandon Williams. Cincy then went up against the 2nd best run stuffer in KC's DT Jaye Howard the next week where C Bodine didn't quite get beaten as much and ran all over him. SEA's Jordan Hill isn't as talented as either, and Seattle's strengths lie in their DE + OLB Bennett and Irvin to stuff the run. This means Hill will probably continue to run up the gut behind big #77 Whitworth and Zeitler, they just need Bodine to not completely fold like a cheap lawn chair like against Brandon Williams.
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/10/...ing-continue-to-shine-along-bengals-offensive
The bottom line is it will be tough sledding for yards but it is doable since 3/5 starters on that line are standouts - holes will be opened eventually.

Carlos Hyde is on a dumpster-fire of a team with a QB who is apologizing for his past week's performance. No way.

CJ?K is blazing hot right now so I wouldn't blame you at all for starting him over Hill, both are on potent offenses. Just keep in mind that DET's run D is as good as NYG's (ranked very similarly), although AZ put up a sneaky good performance run blocking in their loss to the Rams. They forced otherworldly talent Aaron Donald into a negative run blocking grade. This tells me they shouldn't have trouble with DET, but any given Sunday. CJ?K will have easier sledding than Hill but Detroit's weakness is pass coverage so I expect the Cards to attack more through the air, whereas Cincy may not be able to do that vs Legion of Boom and have to go to the ground.

Thanks I think I'm going to go with Hill.
 
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For one of my Monday/Thursday lineups on Draft Kings I can slot in both of them as my RBs. Houston needs the running game to win tonight. And I don't expect much out of the Colts running game tonight.

And I went with Foster and Gore instead of Foster and Blue.

Foster going through concussion protocol. Geesh.
 

SP33Demon

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Man, hope you took my advice and started Hasselbeck over Mallet. Hasselbeck actually had a decent game. & Andre Johnson actually did something, amazing.
 

T2urtle

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Man, hope you took my advice and started Hasselbeck over Mallet. Hasselbeck actually had a decent game. & Andre Johnson actually did something, amazing.
Andre will be back to bum status next week. He is available in my league.