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ShadowOfMyself said:
71% possession? Lol they cant do a pass right, constantly losing the ball to Algeria
Algeria already had about 4 close calls with Neuer saving Germany by covering for their defense

If you were watching the game youd understand, Algeria deserves to be winning already, no doubt about that
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Again, I don't think you're watching the game. The half ended with Germany at 70% possession. http://www.espnfc.us/gamecast/383249/gamecast.html right there if you want to look. Algeria has done nothing on paper that looks like they are dominating. Neuer has a single save.
 
so the reason soccer isnt big in us is because theres no big $ in it.
theres no commericials except 1/2 time.

45min commericial free game is unheard of in the us.
imagine the $$$ if there were commericlas
 
JEDI said:
so the reason soccer isnt big in us is because theres no big $ in it.
theres no commericials except 1/2 time.

45min commericial free game is unheard of in the us.
imagine the $$$ if there were commericlas
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So the money thrown around EU for soccer is not big money?
 
smackababy said:
Again, I don't think you're watching the game. The half ended with Germany at 70% possession. http://www.espnfc.us/gamecast/383249/gamecast.html right there if you want to look. Algeria has done nothing on paper that looks like they are dominating. Neuer has a single save.
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It's kind of funny that you're accusing someone of not watching the game when you're not yourself and is using gamecast stats to support your argument...

I think people are saying that Algeria had the best chances in the game so far. Possession and shots mean nothing if they don't lead to goal scoring opportunities.
 
If you watch BBC coverage of this world Cup, you'd be amazed to find there are no commercials even during half time. Just very insightful analysis and other related video reports.

Unbelievable.
 
A large problem in why MLS isn't so big is we don't have any big name stars nor are the games broadcast on major networks. That, and the best soccer (English Premier League, La Liga, etc) if even shown runs during the work day, so Americans will miss it.

If an MLS team could score someone like Ronaldo, viewership would increase and lure other good players. But, none of the real players want to come to the kiddy league until the end of their careers. The salary caps (which are incredibly low, compared to the money spent in Europe) hurts them as well. An example is the designated player rule in MLS. Thierry Henry makes more as a designated player than the teams entire salary cap, which is still like $17 million less than Ronaldo.
 
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yuchai said:
It's kind of funny that you're accusing someone of not watching the game when you're not yourself and is using gamecast stats to support your argument...

I think people are saying that Algeria had the best chances in the game so far. Possession and shots mean nothing if they don't lead to goal scoring opportunities.
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Which is why Algeria isn't dominating. They are wasting possessions. I am not saying Germany is commanding the game (because, they couldn't be; those numbers should have lead to goals), merely arguing that Algeria cannot possibly be dominating anything with such poor offensive stats.
 
smackababy said:
Which is why Algeria isn't dominating. They are wasting possessions. I am not saying Germany is commanding the game (because, they couldn't be; those numbers should have lead to goals), merely arguing that Algeria cannot possibly be dominating anything with such poor offensive stats.
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Algeria completely dominated the game in the first 20-25 minutes, Germany didnt do squat, they just passed the ball around harmlessly while Algeria had all the best attempts at goal
Anyone who is actually seeing the game would agree with me, because its what happened

Since then things changed dramatically and now Germany is on top, but Algeria is doing an amazing game regardless

I recommend you watch the first half hour of the game later so you can understand just how meaningless those statistics were
 
smackababy said:
Which is why Algeria isn't dominating. They are wasting possessions. I am not saying Germany is commanding the game (because, they couldn't be; those numbers should have lead to goals), merely arguing that Algeria cannot possibly be dominating anything with such poor offensive stats.
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I'd define "domination" more in the lines of creating chances that have a realistic chance of actually becoming a goal. And if you go by that, Algeria has "dominated" a good part of the first half.

If you always go with possession & number of shots, a team like Barcelona/Spain would almost always "dominate" and a team like Italy never so. The stats are more a reflection of the different styles of play of the teams.
 
smackababy said:
A large problem in why MLS isn't so big is we don't have any big name stars nor are the games broadcast on major networks. That, and the best soccer (English Premier League, La Liga, etc) if even shown runs during the work day, so Americans will miss it.

If an MLS team could score someone like Ronaldo, viewership would increase and lure other good players. But, none of the real players want to come to the kiddy league until the end of their careers. The salary caps (which are incredibly low, compared to the money spent in Europe) hurts them as well. An example is the designated player rule in MLS. Thierry Henry makes more as a designated player than the teams entire salary cap, which is still like $17 million less than Ronaldo.
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It's a long game though. MLS knows they can't possibly afford to pay exorbitant salaries; at least the flyover teams certainly can't. They have to bide their time, grow their academies and sign smart DPs when they can. As quality improves, which it is, so will viewership, attendance, salaries and all that. IMO, the smarter in-their-prime DP to persue would be someone like Chicharito, who would draw scores of Latin fans in whichever market he went to.

One thing MLS is trying to avoid is a dominance of just a few rich teams...like just about every other big soccer league, and the old NASL. If that happens, then interest will die for the poorer, underperforming teams and that will hurt the league as a whole.
 
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Gooberlx2 said:
It's a long game though. MLS knows they can't possibly afford to pay exorbitant salaries; at least the flyover teams certainly can't. They have to bide their time, grow their academies and sign smart DPs when they can. As quality improves, which it is, so will viewership, attendance, salaries and all that.
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The salary cap is way to low IMO, even with the 2 DP rule. I understand they don't want to bleed money, but attracting young talent (even if only to be an up and coming before going to a premier league) is paramount to their success.

Gooberlx2 said:
One thing MLS is trying to avoid is a dominance of just a few rich teams...like just about every other big soccer league, and the old NASL. If that happens, then interest will die for the poorer, underperforming teams and that will hurt the league as a whole.
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I think, in a way, this is bad for them. If every team is close to each other in skill, the American people just aren't interested. Look at the NBA, there has always been a decade where very few teams dominated. The only time that wasn't the case, the NBA had low viewership. People want to watch Lebron James team up with D Wade and Bosh and dominate the worst teams. Baseball has a good salary cap system, you can go over, but each dollar over the cap, you have to pay a dollar into a pool for the poorer teams. So, the Yankees can spend, spend, spend, but it helps the poor teams build as well.
 
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Neuer is so fucking good... Who needs a defense when your goalie teleports everywhere he is needed? Seriously wth... Every time it looks like an Algerian attacker will be alone, Neuer shows up out of nowhere and kills the play
 
smackababy said:
The salary cap is way to low IMO, even with the 2 DP rule. I understand they don't want to bleed money, but attracting young talent (even if only to be an up and coming before going to a premier league) is paramount to their success.
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My guess is they're instead getting themselves reasonably established in enough markets before starting to increase the salaries to more competitive rates. I'd give it a couple/few more years after Atlanta and Miami come on line. Because, yeah, they really do need to start raising the salaries if they ever want to attract, and keep, talent.
 
ShadowOfMyself said:
Neuer is so fucking good... Who needs a defense when your goalie teleports everywhere he is needed? Seriously wth... Every time it looks like an Algerian attacker will be alone, Neuer shows up out of nowhere and kills the play
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I hate Neuer, only because he is OP as fuck in Fifa 14...

Is this going to be another extra time tie penalty shootout game?
 
Yup, extra time... I would be so proud if I was Algerian, what an amazing game they did, and to play like that vs Germany, wow, I cant praise them enough

Ive heard a lot of people saying Neuer is the best goalkeeper in the world and I was like "whats the big deal?" but after watching this game, yeah... There are a lot of goalies who do amazing saves (Hello Ochoa!) but the way Neuer leaves the goal to stop the other teams offensive and kill any kind of dangerous play, Ive never seen anything like that before
 
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