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Azurik

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I don't get it, Europe is a stinking pile of mess that's in no better shape - if not worse - than the US. How?

Well, it has been going down lately. It almost hit $1.50 vs the dollar earlier. I'm very interested in how they are going to resolve Greece, Portugal and Spain (among others that will follow) without pissing off Germany or threatening the stability of the Eurozone.
 

FelixDeCat

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I think RYUN has the potential to crack $5 eventually. I dont own any shares but Ive been keeping up with it and it seems promising, as opposed to the majority of penny stocks I come accross. It hit $2.40 today.

More information here:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Respect-Your-Universe-iw-2517425204.html?x=0&.v=1

It seems as though "TapOut" shirts, etc are hot right now and maybe Respect Your Universe might be able to capitalize on the trend. It is a still a long shot though so buyer beware.
 

zimu

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wonder if ING is a good buy right now given their crash yesterday? premarket is few more percentage points lower, these guys tend to bounce back after these slumps.
 

Azurik

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I think RYUN has the potential to crack $5 eventually. I dont own any shares but Ive been keeping up with it and it seems promising, as opposed to the majority of penny stocks I come accross. It hit $2.40 today.

More information here:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Respect-Your-Universe-iw-2517425204.html?x=0&.v=1

It seems as though "TapOut" shirts, etc are hot right now and maybe Respect Your Universe might be able to capitalize on the trend. It is a still a long shot though so buyer beware.

Listen buddy, I show you these stocks to trade and make a profit, not cross your fingers and hope it actually becomes something big :)
 

TheNinja

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Jan 22, 2003
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Maybe it's a good time to sell and just hold cash in my 1.10% savings account? I got a bad feeling my portfolio at the end of the summer will be significantly less that it is right now :(
 

Aharami

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Aug 31, 2001
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I think RYUN has the potential to crack $5 eventually. I dont own any shares but Ive been keeping up with it and it seems promising, as opposed to the majority of penny stocks I come accross. It hit $2.40 today.

More information here:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Respect-Your-Universe-iw-2517425204.html?x=0&.v=1

It seems as though "TapOut" shirts, etc are hot right now and maybe Respect Your Universe might be able to capitalize on the trend. It is a still a long shot though so buyer beware.

heh..imagine if someone actually invested when it was .30 and still held on!! Holy Profits Batman!
 

Azurik

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Jan 23, 2002
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heh..imagine if someone actually invested when it was .30 and still held on!! Holy Profits Batman!

My entire team got in at .30 or below. I knew it was going to be a pump, but it's hard to imagine it was going to be sustainable like this. While we got out with profits, it was conservative, which, 99% of the time, is the best approach for stocks like these.
 

Imp

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Feb 8, 2000
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wonder if ING is a good buy right now given their crash yesterday? premarket is few more percentage points lower, these guys tend to bounce back after these slumps.

Sigh. I bought it at $9.50 in December and sold it off in the low $10.xx range. It then went to $12 or $13. Nice to see it back down.

I'd be very very cautious about ING or any other banks right now. ING just sold off their American division, I believe, as required by their bail-out package. Greece may (will?) have to "selective default", Italy is on the train to the shitter, then there's Spain, Ireland, Portugal, the entire EU, etc. Let's not forget the game of chicken going on in the good'ole US of A (I foresee a last minute ass-kissing, political showmanship deal, so not really worried yet).

On the other hand, Bank of America (BAC) back in November last year managed to rise about 30% over a few months despite having unsettled mortgage claims, litigation, etc. and looming debit/credit fee restrictions. Oh, then it crashed back to pre-November 2010 levels over the past few months.

In short: it could pop a few percent, or it could take another huge dump.
 
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Sold off my MYE today. Can't beleive it is up again. Bought at just over $10 and sold it a few weeks later for $11.80.

Back to 10% cash. Waiting for a pullback. I ahve a few stocks I will sell on a mini run like TGT. Wish I sold on the day it jumped. Oh well.
 
Sep 29, 2004
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Sold off my MYE today. Can't beleive it is up again. Bought at just over $10 and sold it a few weeks later for $11.80.

Back to 10% cash. Waiting for a pullback. I ahve a few stocks I will sell on a mini run like TGT. Wish I sold on the day it jumped. Oh well.
 

jessieqwert

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Jun 21, 2003
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Ok, hoping I can learn a lesson here on options, specifically puts. I had an option in June expire-
SOLD 1000.0 CLWR @4.0 upon Exercise 10.0 CLWR 100 JUN 11 4 PUT

Great, worked perfectly. But now I'm left with -400 shares of the stock? I didn't realize that part of it.

So I had to buy back 400 shares

The questions I have are -
1. Why do I get -400 shares?
2. If I had exercised before the expiration date, say at $3.50 - would I have -350 shares?
3. Once I have the negative shares, what is the optimal time to sell them?

Thanks to anyone that cares to explain all that!
 

Imp

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Feb 8, 2000
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Half of my life savings are in US Dollars. Starting to get worried about default. I'm gambling that everyone's bluffing, but I just don't know anymore.
 

Imp

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Bought GOOG two weeks ago, 10 whole shares, and made $400 on it, then sold it last Thursday. Woops...
 
Sep 29, 2004
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Half of my life savings are in US Dollars. Starting to get worried about default. I'm gambling that everyone's bluffing, but I just don't know anymore.

Politicians are not stupid. They will not risk default. They are playing politics. Nothing more. This is simply creating opportunity.

RISK: The Tea Party morons that are too stupid to realize what could happen with default. It's not worth the risk but when people base their conclusions on beliefs and not logic, bad things can happen. People that are tea partiers (that don't get it) need to be dragged out behind the barn and shot.
 
Sep 29, 2004
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Ok, hoping I can learn a lesson here on options, specifically puts. I had an option in June expire-
SOLD 1000.0 CLWR @4.0 upon Exercise 10.0 CLWR 100 JUN 11 4 PUT

Great, worked perfectly. But now I'm left with -400 shares of the stock? I didn't realize that part of it.

So I had to buy back 400 shares

The questions I have are -
1. Why do I get -400 shares?
2. If I had exercised before the expiration date, say at $3.50 - would I have -350 shares?
3. Once I have the negative shares, what is the optimal time to sell them?

Thanks to anyone that cares to explain all that!

Options are contracts. There is someone on the other side of the trade. Each contract represents 100 shares. If you sell a put, 100 shares per option can be "put to you". If you buy a put, you have the option to put 100 shares to someone else.

It sounds like you bought 10 options. If you were at a profit prior to expiration, you need to close the position. If you don't do this prior to expiration you could (asusme will) loose all your money. So, for the stock to be sold on you is usually a good thing. Hopefully you can buy the stock back at the same price it sold and have the same profit.

Taxes. All this crap that is happening is considered one transaction for tax purposes. There is fun wording in tax law called "significantly similar". You really need to read up on taxes with options. It is a nightmare. All you can do is read, read and read. It's not something I can or want to explain everything about.

To address your specific questions:
1) explained above. cliff notes: If you did not have that forced upon you, you would have actually lost all your invested money.
2) when an option is exercised, each exercised option is equivalent to 100 shares.
3) You are now short that stock. When you exit the short is up to you. Remember to adjust your cost basis on those shares in accordance with the options. Also (example, not your case), if you have 5 options and are now short 200 shares now due to exercising, and you exit the other 3 options the following happens. You split the cost of the 5 options into a 40%/60% split. That 60% split is your cost basis on those 3 options you exited. The other 40% is used to adjust the cost basis of the shares you are now short.

You have alot to take in. Read, re-read and google google google. You need to learn about how to properly book keep when dealing with options. Options can be an absolute nightmare with taxes especially when you have to consider wash sale rules.
 

hg321

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Oct 21, 2000
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I've been telling you guys about MPEL and it's still undervalued, just wait until they show a few quarters positive earnings in a row, which they will.

thanks for this tip, I made a nice amount of money off this stock
 

manlymatt83

Lifer
Oct 14, 2005
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I made a nice profit off of GOOG today. Also closed out my QQQ puts yesterday for a substantial gain, alongside my SLV calls for a nice gain. Three nice wins.

JS80: you going long next week?
 
Sep 29, 2004
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I finally figured out why Prem Watsa is buying so much damned ABH.

http://www.google.com//finance?chdn...0996&chls=IntervalBasedLine&q=NYSE:ABH&ntsp=0

And now it's at a 52 week low.

Sometimes value is obvious. I've looked at ABH many times and never figured it out. I can now happily say that it is one of those investments that can take as little as 15 minutes before you go holy crap. My thesis is far from complete but this thing is definitely undervalued by a long shot. Buying at the open on Monday. This thing is going to be 15-20% of my holdings. I actually hope to sell some other stock and rolling it into ABH.

It's not even some secret hidden value. It is all about a restructuring story and where the numbers will be when restructuring is completed.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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I made a nice profit off of GOOG today. Also closed out my QQQ puts yesterday for a substantial gain, alongside my SLV calls for a nice gain. Three nice wins.

JS80: you going long next week?

I sold my qqq puts too for 100% gain on friday and rolled it forward to this weeks puts
 

PimpJuice

Platinum Member
Feb 14, 2005
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I finally figured out why Prem Watsa is buying so much damned ABH.

http://www.google.com//finance?chdn...0996&chls=IntervalBasedLine&q=NYSE:ABH&ntsp=0

And now it's at a 52 week low.

Sometimes value is obvious. I've looked at ABH many times and never figured it out. I can now happily say that it is one of those investments that can take as little as 15 minutes before you go holy crap. My thesis is far from complete but this thing is definitely undervalued by a long shot. Buying at the open on Monday. This thing is going to be 15-20% of my holdings. I actually hope to sell some other stock and rolling it into ABH.

It's not even some secret hidden value. It is all about a restructuring story and where the numbers will be when restructuring is completed.

I hope you're joking