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Official 2011 NFL Draft Thread.

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Why is the draft still going on? :x

Questioning the Pats' picks hasn't worked out in the past. Belichik always wins the draft 😉 - Then he'll trade some of his best players (minus brady) later this year so he can get more draft picks next year and they'll end up falling short again this year in the playoffs. Almost seems like he'd rather keep his job then win another Superbowl.
 
crashtestdummy said:
Weird draft by the Pats. I thought for sure they would add more pass rushers. The RB and QB picks strike me as luxury picks, which tells me one (or more) of the following:


  • The Pats don't like the prospects in the draft. In a 3-4, you need to either find a college DE that can play 3-4 OLB and be quick enough to drop into coverage, or a college DT with some pass rushing capability. Both are hard to project.
  • The real weakness on defense last year was in coverage, not pressure. The injury of Bodden really hurt last year, and outside of McCourty, there were no solid
  • Injuries killed the Pats D-line last year (especially Ty Warren), and he actually likes the personnel currently in place.
None of these explanations really satisfy me, though. I feel they could have made at least one of the RB picks a DE/OLB.
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I get the whole saving money business and stock piling for the future, but one of the biggest needs that they needed going into the draft was a pass rusher.

If I was Brady, I'd be pissed. They treat him like crap, saying the team always comes first, and basically waste the latter end of his career with rebuilding moves for the future.

I think they felt like they needed an elite running back or were otherwise unhappy with their running game because BJGE and Woodhead are good 2nd tier backs, not like Jackson, Peterson, and some of those guys. After all, they drafted *two* RBs with sort of high picks. What I don't get is deferring their #1 to next year. It'll be in the same general overall range and instead they drafted 2 questionable to semi-good 2nd tier backs again. BB is good and I'm sure those 2 guys will be okay but I don't think next year's #1 is going to be better than Ingram unless they really hated him for whatever reason. It's not like you need to shell out big bucks for #28. Even Bush turned out okay. So-so numbers but great as a decoy and helped them win a SB so I'd call that a success.

BB could still be right and all these guys could be busts but then he goes out and burned a 3rd round pick on Mallet when Brady may have 5 years left of decent productivity. Mallet is good and all that but he's not going to lead you to a SB victory any time soon. He's a thing for the far future. I'm sure Brady is feeling like Lebron in Cleveland or something. With this kind of mentality, I don't see the Pats winning any more SBs in the next 5 years.

Cam Newton: He feels like such a coin flip. Could be similar to McNair, but I think the downside is a lot larger. Off the field problems can snowball when the spotlight is bigger.

Looks like the Cards are going to end up paying through the nose for some random guy, like Kolb/McNabb with nothing drafted at QB.
 
a123456 said:
I get the whole saving money business and stock piling for the future, but one of the biggest needs that they needed going into the draft was a pass rusher.

If I was Brady, I'd be pissed. They treat him like crap, saying the team always comes first, and basically waste the latter end of his career with rebuilding moves for the future.

I think they felt like they needed an elite running back or were otherwise unhappy with their running game because BJGE and Woodhead are good 2nd tier backs, not like Jackson, Peterson, and some of those guys. After all, they drafted *two* RBs with sort of high picks. What I don't get is deferring their #1 to next year. It'll be in the same general overall range and instead they drafted 2 questionable to semi-good 2nd tier backs again. BB is good and I'm sure those 2 guys will be okay but I don't think next year's #1 is going to be better than Ingram unless they really hated him for whatever reason. It's not like you need to shell out big bucks for #28. Even Bush turned out okay. So-so numbers but great as a decoy and helped them win a SB so I'd call that a success.

BB could still be right and all these guys could be busts but then he goes out and burned a 3rd round pick on Mallet when Brady may have 5 years left of decent productivity. Mallet is good and all that but he's not going to lead you to a SB victory any time soon. He's a thing for the far future. I'm sure Brady is feeling like Lebron in Cleveland or something. With this kind of mentality, I don't see the Pats winning any more SBs in the next 5 years.

Cam Newton: He feels like such a coin flip. Could be similar to McNair, but I think the downside is a lot larger. Off the field problems can snowball when the spotlight is bigger.

Looks like the Cards are going to end up paying through the nose for some random guy, like Kolb/McNabb with nothing drafted at QB.
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Actually Bellicheck doesn't have a great record with draft picks. At least percentage wise. The Pats philosophy is to trade down and get more picks so they draft more players than almost any other team, though they are later round players. The Pats highest picks have at best an average record. But they draft so many players they still get a greater number of players that make the team than teams that pick fewer players with higher picks.

As for Mallet, it turns out that Brian Hoyer their current backup is a hot item right now and very tradeable. It may be that the hope is Mallet can be a backup and they can trade Hoyer. There are a bunch of teams still in the market for a QB and Hoyer could land a first or second rounder in a trade.

I don't know how people can criticize the Pats when last season was a rebuilding year and they went 14-2.

If I'm Tom Brady I'd be pretty damn happy that I have the talent to have the best record in football since I started playing.

Let's see what happens if there is a rookie salary cap next year. The Pats could then draft a bunch of 1st and 2nd rounders and still have money left over compared to this year.
 
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