Official 2011 Fantasy Football Discussion Thread

[SunnyD]

No way I make a terrible trade based on some feeling that the Texans have bad luck based on just one instance in their short team history (Slaton).

BTW: Lynch is a feature back in that Seahawks offense. I watched their game, they're going to go to him alot.

Well yeah, that's obvious... when it comes to FF you go with your gut. Personally, until proven otherwise, I wouldn't NOT start Foster myself if I had him. But I just find it funny that given this particular topic, Foster did what he did to his hammy and then the whole tweeting the MRI thing on top of it. It just "feels" like the first step of the typical Texans luck with running backs. But anyway, Foster is practicing this week, so he'll likely be back and ready to prove me wrong.

Re: Lynch - yeah, but Forsett and Washington are going to get a lot more touches than Helu for the Skins will, which will eat into Lynch's overall production a good bit. At this point, nobody in DC is taking (measurable) touches away from Hightower. There's a reason why in several fantasy leagues I'm in Lynch is still on the waiver wire and Hightower isn't.

 

[Elbryn]

Re: Lynch - yeah, but Forsett and Washington are going to get a lot more touches than Helu for the Skins will, which will eat into Lynch's overall production a good bit. At this point, nobody in DC is taking (measurable) touches away from Hightower. There's a reason why in several fantasy leagues I'm in Lynch is still on the waiver wire and Hightower isn't.

must be a 10 man league? or small bench slots? lynch may not be great but he's getting 1st/2nd down touches and as such has decent value.

 

[AMDZen]

must be a 10 man league? or small bench slots? lynch may not be great but he's getting 1st/2nd down touches and as such has decent value.

This is a bit of advise for everyone reading through this thread. Just ignore most of what Sunny and slayer are saying. They're both full of shit.

Marshawn Lynch is owned in 99.3 percent of all leagues, the other 0.7 percent is down from just this week where .7 percent of hundreds of thousands of leagues dropped him.

Yea, I'm sure Sunny is on a ton of those 0.7 percent of leagues where Lynch is "on the waiver wire".

I'm in 10 leagues and he isn't available in any of them, including the 8 man league I'm in.

 

[Onita]

Well, still no official response from the trade (Team 1 is the Commissioner lol, Team 2 is his parents team, and they play eachother during Steelers bye week).

League is gonna get ugly :\

 

[slayer202]

Zen, go back through the thread and post anything I've said that has been bad advice. I guarantee all advice I've given is no worse than what you've said, and probably better. We disagreed on one trade, OH NOES. If you're gonna be a prick, back it up with some things I've said. If you won't do it, I'll go back and look, and nitpick whatever you've said so far in the thread, because you're the one full of shit

I haven't read any of this Lynch talk, but he is a bye week filler at best

 

[dougp]

This is a bit of advise for everyone reading through this thread. Just ignore most of what Sunny and slayer are saying. They're both full of shit.

Marshawn Lynch is owned in 99.3 percent of all leagues, the other 0.7 percent is down from just this week where .7 percent of hundreds of thousands of leagues dropped him.

Yea, I'm sure Sunny is on a ton of those 0.7 percent of leagues where Lynch is "on the waiver wire".

I'm in 10 leagues and he isn't available in any of them, including the 8 man league I'm in.

What's your team name in the pay league #2?

 

[SunnyD]

This is a bit of advise for everyone reading through this thread. Just ignore most of what Sunny and slayer are saying. They're both full of shit.

Marshawn Lynch is owned in 99.3 percent of all leagues, the other 0.7 percent is down from just this week where .7 percent of hundreds of thousands of leagues dropped him.

Yea, I'm sure Sunny is on a ton of those 0.7 percent of leagues where Lynch is "on the waiver wire".

I'm in 10 leagues and he isn't available in any of them, including the 8 man league I'm in.

I love it when people talk out their asses.
99.3% of all ESPN leagues, sure. Hightower is owned in 100% of all ESPN leagues.
78% of all Yahoo leagues for Lynch, as opposed to 90% for Hightower.
NFL.com, Lynch is owned 90.9% to Hightower's 98.7%.

I don't have access to any CBS Sports fantasy info for that comparison. But anyway, ignore me, because I obviously still don't have any idea what I'm talking about. 🙄 Obviously the general consensus of fantasy football players are also wrong.

 

[slayer202]

How did I end up on Sunny's side here? 😀

Anyway Zen, I just went back and read all of our posts in this thread, and neither of us said anything that looks bad, even in hindsight. There were some close calls, like Cutler vs. Mccoy and Rex vs. Fitzpatrick, but that just seems like evidence that neither suggestion was bad, even when we disagreed.

There was a spot where I disagreed with your analysis on someone else's teams, but we'll see how that turns out. But feel free to bash my advice without merit, this is ATOT of course, anyone with a different opinion should die.

 

[SunnyD]

How did I end up on Sunny's side here? 😀

QF.... uh... I dunno why, but QFthehellofit.

Man... it just got COLD in here.

 

[AMDZen]

I agree that the Arian Foster thing is kind of what did it. Both of you guys agreeing on that just seals the deal. You guys are both out of your mind on Arian Foster.

 

[AMDZen]

What's your team name in the pay league #2?

I'm only in the first one

 

[slayer202]

I'm not saying Foster is bad, I love foster. But a bad team sometimes needs to take a risk. On paper it's not an even trade, but in the circumstances I don't think it's that crazy. But hearing team 2 is the parents of team 1? rofl, well, I'm guessing that league has bigger problems anyway.

But I'm done with this kiddie bullshit though. I'm confident in my advice, and I'm glad to help people out when I can, but if you don't think my advice is sound, ignore it. I'm not going to get pulled into arguing about it, my teams can do the talking.

 

[vi edit]

Here's one to toss out....Who to play in an RB2 this week(non PPR).

Fred Taylor vs. Oakland
Blount vs. MN
Hightower vs. 'Zona

Leaning towards Hightower but think Taylor is the safer bet. I'm down on TB offense until they get their swagger back.

 

[AMDZen]

Here's one to toss out....Who to play in an RB2 this week(non PPR).

Fred Taylor vs. Oakland
Blount vs. MN
Hightower vs. 'Zona

Leaning towards Hightower but think Taylor is the safer bet. I'm down on TB offense until they get their swagger back.

I hope you mean Fred Jackson since Fred Taylor retired this year 😉

Fred Jackson or Hightower, flip a coin.

 

[vi edit]

I hope you mean Fred Jackson since Fred Taylor retired this year 😉

Fred Jackson or Hightower, flip a coin.

LOL! yeh. Fred Jackson. I think Jackson gets more yards but Hightower has a higher chance of a TD. Crapshoot/cointoss, I agree.

 

[Imported]

I like Hightower.

 

[Onita]

Who should I start?
TEAM 1
QB: Fitzpatrick
RB:McFadden
RB:Blount
WR:Miles Austin
WR: A. Johnson
TE: O. Daniels
Flex: Lloyd
K: Rackers
D: Chicago

Bench: Peyton, Fred Jackson, M. Bush, Cadillac, Greene, Sims Walker, Fred Davis, Cassell (Watson, Dickson, Fassano, Olsen, and Kendricks available on TE WW)

Fred Jackson for Blount? Cadillac in?

TEAM 2

QB: Matt Ryan
RB:AP
RB: MJD
WR:Welker
WR:Williams (TB)
Flex:Forte
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

Bench: Fitzpatrick, Snelling, Spiller, Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, Hernandez,Chiefs (WW D includes Redkins, Cards, Broncs, Raiders, Bucs, Colts)

Do I sub in Johnson (@ Oak) or Britt (@Bal)? Oakland's pass D sucks, while there run D did good, albeit against a bad team. Baltimore I think will go up making Tennessee pass the ball more.

Both leagues are PPR

 

[Elbryn]

Here's one to toss out....Who to play in an RB2 this week(non PPR).

Fred Taylor vs. Oakland
Blount vs. MN
Hightower vs. 'Zona

Leaning towards Hightower but think Taylor is the safer bet. I'm down on TB offense until they get their swagger back.

fred jackson might you get some points. fred taylor i think is working at the citgo.

between jackson and hightower to me. oakland and arizona defense are about the same but believe arizona offense is better. based on that i'd go with jackson. buffalo stands a better chance in not falling behind early and having to pass.
on the negative, jackson has more carries stolen from him in a timeshare whereas hightower only had 1 carry taken away.

 

[Imported]

The Arizona defense is worse than the Raiders..

 

[AMDZen]

I like Hightower.

The more I think about it, I think I agree. Arizona is terribad and will be trying to stop Sexy Rexy all day. Plus, Hightower will want revenge against his former team.

However, Fred Jackson is playing against a team that is traveling ALLL the way across the country, on a short week.

Its a tough call.

Maybe wait and see if the weather plays into it at all? I dunno. I think I flip a coin, honestly.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Well yeah, that's obvious... when it comes to FF you go with your gut. Personally, until proven otherwise, I wouldn't NOT start Foster myself if I had him. But I just find it funny that given this particular topic, Foster did what he did to his hammy and then the whole tweeting the MRI thing on top of it. It just "feels" like the first step of the typical Texans luck with running backs. But anyway, Foster is practicing this week, so he'll likely be back and ready to prove me wrong.

Re: Lynch - yeah, but Forsett and Washington are going to get a lot more touches than Helu for the Skins will, which will eat into Lynch's overall production a good bit. At this point, nobody in DC is taking (measurable) touches away from Hightower. There's a reason why in several fantasy leagues I'm in Lynch is still on the waiver wire and Hightower isn't.

Forsett/Washington get very few touches compare to Lynch, if you've watched the games, they try to get the ball in Lynch's hands. But the point of my post wasn't to say one is better than the other. Rather, that not all feature backs are created alike.

 

[slayer202]

Those are both pretty tough Onita. On team 1 I think it's between Fjax and Cadillac, I would sit blount since its ppr. I'd go with your gut between those two. Cadillac might have more fire in him, given the chance to start and show off what he can do, but that isn't much to go on.

In the other spot I love Britt after seeing what he did last week, I think he's scored 11 times in his last 10 games, something like that. But Mike Williams is close if they play better this week than last, and Stevie Johnson isn't a bad option either, but perhaps a bit behind the other two.

 

[Kev]

TEAM 2

QB: Matt Ryan
RB:AP
RB: MJD
WR:Welker
WR:Williams (TB)
Flex:Forte
K:Janikowski
D: Eagles

Bench: Fitzpatrick, Snelling, Spiller, Steve Johnson, J. Nelson, Britt, V. Davis, Hernandez,Chiefs (WW D includes Redkins, Cards, Broncs, Raiders, Bucs, Colts)

Wow... 8 team league?

 

[Glitchny]

Hmm so I had Jackson, but now he is hurt and I intended to get Cadillac Williams off of waivers, but apparently I was beaten to it by someone in my league who has 5 RB's on the bench... they are carrying a total of 8 RBs. with no backup WR's, I hope their WR goes down

 

[SunnyD]

I agree that the Arian Foster thing is kind of what did it. Both of you guys agreeing on that just seals the deal. You guys are both out of your mind on Arian Foster.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't agreeing with my on Foster bro. He was agreeing with me on Lynch/Hightower.

And if you care to go back and read REALLY REALLY CAREFULLY, you'll see that I also said "Ride Foster until proven otherwise". Week 1 of the season is hardly proving otherwise, hence my admission previously of it.

Forsett/Washington get very few touches compare to Lynch, if you've watched the games, they try to get the ball in Lynch's hands. But the point of my post wasn't to say one is better than the other. Rather, that not all feature backs are created alike.

Yeah, they're going to want to get the ball into Lynch's hands and pray he has another Richter Rumble... but lets face it, Seattle will be playing from behind more often than not, has a crappy O-Line again as usual, and being a staunch Bills fan, I can say with certainty (and an actual unbiased opinion unlike most) that he's no where near as good out of the backfield as Forsett or Washington are. Those three things right there are why most fantasy projections have Lynch as a bench warmer.