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Azurik

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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: zimu
so, azurik etc - what do you think of rambus' financial statements? positive or negative in terms of direction of stock?

For Rambus the financial statements dont mean squat. The onyl thing that matters is who's paid off the judge more, Rambus or Samsung.

Slew Foot is right, the financials for Rambus mean very little right now. Their stock price will be tied to the litigations as it will determine their future revenue.

It was a better than expected earnings if that was your qiestion. Rambus paid off part of their zero-coupon bond and gained a positive net gain on that portion. Losses were less than expected and their revenues were higher due to the FTC money that was owed back to them.

The better question to ask is what Judge Whyte will decide on in tomorrow conference call. In their last meeting, he said he was leaning towards having a trial, and one without delays and starts on February 7th. He wanted everyone to submit papers on the best route for judicial efficiency before tomorrow so he can further announce his intentions.

Needless to say, tomorrow is an important day for RMBS.

On the plus side, Judge Whyte ruled favorable for RMBS twice in the past week. The market is not picking up on the significance of his rulings. It is basically protecting Rambus from adverse PTO rulings brough on by Samsung and denying Hynix's request for a new trial on multiple fronts.
 

ponyo

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This January was the worst January for the S&P 500 in the 81 year history. It was also the worst January for the Dow in its 113 year history. S&P 500 lost 8.6% and the Dow lost 8.8% this month. If history is any guide, a loss in January usually signals losing year for the S&P 500.

So don't feel too bad if you're down this year. This is a tough market for everyone.
 

Azurik

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Originally posted by: aldamon
UPDATE 2-US judge says will likely rule for Micron

Old news.

What I got from Friday's conference with Judge Whyte is that he views strongly his opinion of spoilation is right, but he is not going to abuse his power of discretion and will apply collateral estoppel (CE) to Delaware's ruling. However, it seems as though he will stay that issue and not make it final until Rambus appeals the Delaware decision.

The more important thing is where is he with the rulings of Hynix and Samsung, and when this DDR2 trial is going to happen. He promised in court today that his decision will be made either tonight or tomorrow at the latest. He was very confident about this.

He also asked Stone (head lawyer for Rambus) which is more important: 1) having the trial on track to begin February 17th or the certify the damages and place a compulsory license or injuction against Hynix. Stone answered he would like both, but if he were forced to choose one, he wanted the Hynix decision finalized.

Here's what I think and why the market is worried:

Hynix being certified is extremely important. As soon as he does this, Hynix will owe roughly $300m-$500m to Rambus and will either need to pay Rambus a royalty for future sales or stop making chips all together. This will happen this month, probably before February 17th.

What the market is worried about is a long delay in the DDR2 trial (we're talking 2 years). I am sure Judge Whyte is well aware of what delays have caused Rambus and will not likely take this route. I bet he will postpone for a few weeks/couple months in order for him to get ready for this mess. That's what the market is antsy about.

This is what I wrote to you guys what could possibly happen in California right after the Delaware decision came out:

1. He disregards Robinson's verdict as his court already saw the same set of facts and ruled completely opposite in Rambus vs Hynix's DDR and SDRAM trial. He lets the CAFC sort the dissenting opinions knowing both will be appealed anyway and his is the more thorough one. Trial proceeds. This is the best outcome for Rambus. 20%

2. He allows Robinson's ruling to enter his court and strikes out 4 of the 10 claims Rambus has asserted against Micron. The rest of the manufacturer's stay as scheduled. Trial is not stayed (stalled), maybe a couple weeks delay due to the new motions he has to respond to. This is the most likely and close to best outcome Rambus can get. 45%

3. He stays the entire trial until Robinson's ruling is appealed by Rambus. Almost worst case scenario... delays are bad for RMBS. 15%

4. He strikes out the 4 claims to all parties. Not the best, but leaves 1 claim which he rules already infringed. 5%

5. He reverses himself and rules this patent tree is unenforceable. This is the worst case scenario and seriously damages RMBS. I would sell everything if this happens. .01%

6. He exempts Micron from the suit awaiting the results of the appeal and presses forward with everyone else. This is not the best of news, but it isn't so bad either. It lets the Micron issue get squared away with, and at worst Rambus loses Micron's 12% share of the DRAM market. 15%

He could also put his certification at any time now on the previous Rambus vs Hynix trial in which Rambus won all 3 phases (bench trial, jury trial, conduct phase). He has stated he is either going to bar Hynix from making any chips or force them into a compulsory license. This is a revenue stream for RMBS that includes back pay. He just needs to finalize his opinion.


It looks like he's leaning on choosing Option #6, along with certifying the Hynix trial.
 

Azurik

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Rambus Announces Groundbreaking Mobile Memory Initiative

They are showcasing this at DesignCon 2009 this week. They're one of the main exhibits when you first walk in, with a huge booth - being very secretive who they are teaming up with though. Apple, Dell, Samsung?

Here's the Wall Street Article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123354748538438475.html
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Azurik
Rambus Announces Groundbreaking Mobile Memory Initiative

They are showcasing this at DesignCon 2009 this week. They're one of the main exhibits when you first walk in, with a huge booth - being very secretive who they are teaming up with though. Apple, Dell, Samsung?

Here's the Wall Street Article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123354748538438475.html

Rule #1 don't fall in love with a stock...
 

Azurik

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Azurik
Rambus Announces Groundbreaking Mobile Memory Initiative

They are showcasing this at DesignCon 2009 this week. They're one of the main exhibits when you first walk in, with a huge booth - being very secretive who they are teaming up with though. Apple, Dell, Samsung?

Here's the Wall Street Article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123354748538438475.html

Rule #1 don't fall in love with a stock...

Sorry JS80, I'm at like Rule #87 already... "Decade Long Investor with Rose Colored Glasses" ;)

On a more serious note, Rambus rarely announces big tech news (ie. RDRAM for computers, XDR for PlayStation 3, etc). This was previously discussed last year that they were working on mobile memory and they just decided to announce it now.

If they can make cell phones consume less battery power and streamline HD video and apps, I'm all for it.

From the Horse's Mouth, click video on the right
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Azurik
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Azurik
Rambus Announces Groundbreaking Mobile Memory Initiative

They are showcasing this at DesignCon 2009 this week. They're one of the main exhibits when you first walk in, with a huge booth - being very secretive who they are teaming up with though. Apple, Dell, Samsung?

Here's the Wall Street Article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123354748538438475.html

Rule #1 don't fall in love with a stock...

Sorry JS80, I'm at like Rule #87 already... "Decade Long Investor with Rose Colored Glasses" ;)

On a more serious note, Rambus rarely announces big tech news (ie. RDRAM for computers, XDR for PlayStation 3, etc). This was previously discussed last year that they were working on mobile memory and they just decided to announce it now.

If they can make cell phones consume less battery power and streamline HD video and apps, I'm all for it.

From the Horse's Mouth, click video on the right

Sorry, i'm just super biased against companies like rambus. There's no rule against being biased against a stock is there? :p
 

her209

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I want to reallocate my 401(k) into different funds. If I do it when the US markets are open, will it occur after the close? If I do it after-hours or pre-market, will it occur before the market reopens?
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: her209
I want to reallocate my 401(k) into different funds. If I do it when the US markets are open, will it occur after the close? If I do it after-hours or pre-market, will it occur before the market reopens?

Contact your 401k provider to make sure. If I move funds around in my Vanguard account before the market closes, then I get that closing day's NAV. If I do the move after the market closes, I get the next day's closing NAV.
 

Azurik

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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: her209
I want to reallocate my 401(k) into different funds. If I do it when the US markets are open, will it occur after the close? If I do it after-hours or pre-market, will it occur before the market reopens?

Contact your 401k provider to make sure. If I move funds around in my Vanguard account before the market closes, then I get that closing day's NAV. If I do the move after the market closes, I get the next day's closing NAV.

This. It is right in 99% of the cases.
 

Azurik

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can't type much, my assistant called, judge whyte stays ddr2 trial, will certify hynix trial in favor of rambus

i guess it's antitrust time for rambus with kramer
 

Azurik

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In addition, the court's ability to entertain and resolve the disputes churned up by this
litigation has limits. Even were it desirable, the court simply lacks the resources to resolve the issues in Hynix I to enable a swift appeal while simultaneously preparing for the consolidated patent trial in the other three cases.4 The court has thus concluded that a stay of the Northern California actions except Hynix I pending the Federal Circuit's resolution of the spoliation appeals will simplify the proceedings and conserve the parties' and the judiciary's resources.


So that's it then. The court is overwhelmed by the workload. It asks Rambus which was more important, certifying Hynix for damages or staying on schedule for the DDR2 trial and Rambus chose the former and got it.

In laymen's terms is Judge Whyte wants the CAFC to settle the issue of who is right in their spoilation ruling. Him siding with Rambus or Robinson siding with Micron.

The stock is taking a beating after hours... speculators in this stock hates delays.

I might go broke by doing this, but...

I'm transferring $50,000 and buying Rambus tomorrow, hinging on these three ideas:

1) Judge Whyte is issuing damages against Hynix (estimate $300-$500 million) soon.

2) Judge Kramer hopefully stays on track for the AT trial in March.

3) The manufacturers always wanted to settle with Rambus, but their position was too strong and they refused unless it was on their terms. With this delay, they are pressured - just as the manufacturers are with the AT trial looming over them. They're going to have to meet in the middle.
 

HopJokey

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Originally posted by: Azurik
In addition, the court's ability to entertain and resolve the disputes churned up by this
litigation has limits. Even were it desirable, the court simply lacks the resources to resolve the issues in Hynix I to enable a swift appeal while simultaneously preparing for the consolidated patent trial in the other three cases.4 The court has thus concluded that a stay of the Northern California actions except Hynix I pending the Federal Circuit's resolution of the spoliation appeals will simplify the proceedings and conserve the parties' and the judiciary's resources.


So that's it then. The court is overwhelmed by the workload. It asks Rambus which was more important, certifying Hynix for damages or staying on schedule for the DDR2 trial and Rambus chose the former and got it.

The stock is taking a beating after hours... patience is wearing thin.

I might go broke by doing this, but...

I'm transferring $50,000 and buying Rambus tomorrow, hinging on these three ideas:

1) Judge Whyte is issuing damages against Hynix (estimate $300-$500 million) soon.

2) Judge Kramer hopefully stays on track for the AT trial in March.

3) The manufacturers always wanted to settle with Rambus, but their position was too strong and they refused unless it was on their terms. With this delay, they are pressured - just as the manufacturers are with the AT trial looming over them. They're going to have to meet in the middle.

Good luck my friend, you will need it.
 

Azurik

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Azurik
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Azurik
Rambus Announces Groundbreaking Mobile Memory Initiative

They are showcasing this at DesignCon 2009 this week. They're one of the main exhibits when you first walk in, with a huge booth - being very secretive who they are teaming up with though. Apple, Dell, Samsung?

Here's the Wall Street Article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123354748538438475.html

Rule #1 don't fall in love with a stock...

Sorry JS80, I'm at like Rule #87 already... "Decade Long Investor with Rose Colored Glasses" ;)

On a more serious note, Rambus rarely announces big tech news (ie. RDRAM for computers, XDR for PlayStation 3, etc). This was previously discussed last year that they were working on mobile memory and they just decided to announce it now.

If they can make cell phones consume less battery power and streamline HD video and apps, I'm all for it.

From the Horse's Mouth, click video on the right

Sorry, i'm just super biased against companies like rambus. There's no rule against being biased against a stock is there? :p

No there isn't - still got much love for ya ;)
 

Azurik

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Originally posted by: HopJokey
Originally posted by: Azurik
In addition, the court's ability to entertain and resolve the disputes churned up by this
litigation has limits. Even were it desirable, the court simply lacks the resources to resolve the issues in Hynix I to enable a swift appeal while simultaneously preparing for the consolidated patent trial in the other three cases.4 The court has thus concluded that a stay of the Northern California actions except Hynix I pending the Federal Circuit's resolution of the spoliation appeals will simplify the proceedings and conserve the parties' and the judiciary's resources.


So that's it then. The court is overwhelmed by the workload. It asks Rambus which was more important, certifying Hynix for damages or staying on schedule for the DDR2 trial and Rambus chose the former and got it.

The stock is taking a beating after hours... patience is wearing thin.

I might go broke by doing this, but...

I'm transferring $50,000 and buying Rambus tomorrow, hinging on these three ideas:

1) Judge Whyte is issuing damages against Hynix (estimate $300-$500 million) soon.

2) Judge Kramer hopefully stays on track for the AT trial in March.

3) The manufacturers always wanted to settle with Rambus, but their position was too strong and they refused unless it was on their terms. With this delay, they are pressured - just as the manufacturers are with the AT trial looming over them. They're going to have to meet in the middle.

Good luck my friend, you will need it.

Thanks. My investment is long-term so we'll see what happens.

If you were looking for a quick trade though, buy RMBS once it hits the lows from this news and sell right after Judge Whyte hands RMBS the $300-$500 million win for Hynix.

At least my second biggest investment in Kraft (KFT) will announce earnings tomorrow morning and continue its outperformance of the markets. Dairy prices have gone down, but Kraft has maintained their higher prices. Their margins should approve and earn between .43-.44 a share. If it beats that, I'd look for some upside along with a nice dividend.

See, I invest is safer stocks ;)
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Azurik
In addition, the court's ability to entertain and resolve the disputes churned up by this
litigation has limits. Even were it desirable, the court simply lacks the resources to resolve the issues in Hynix I to enable a swift appeal while simultaneously preparing for the consolidated patent trial in the other three cases.4 The court has thus concluded that a stay of the Northern California actions except Hynix I pending the Federal Circuit's resolution of the spoliation appeals will simplify the proceedings and conserve the parties' and the judiciary's resources.


So that's it then. The court is overwhelmed by the workload. It asks Rambus which was more important, certifying Hynix for damages or staying on schedule for the DDR2 trial and Rambus chose the former and got it.

In laymen's terms is Judge Whyte wants the CAFC to settle the issue of who is right in their spoilation ruling. Him siding with Rambus or Robinson siding with Micron.

The stock is taking a beating after hours... speculators in this stock hates delays.

I might go broke by doing this, but...

I'm transferring $50,000 and buying Rambus tomorrow, hinging on these three ideas:


1) Judge Whyte is issuing damages against Hynix (estimate $300-$500 million) soon.

2) Judge Kramer hopefully stays on track for the AT trial in March.

3) The manufacturers always wanted to settle with Rambus, but their position was too strong and they refused unless it was on their terms. With this delay, they are pressured - just as the manufacturers are with the AT trial looming over them. They're going to have to meet in the middle.

Let us know what you want on your epitaph, just in case...

I hope you were joking. Rule #1: Never put yourself in position to get blown out in a worst case scenario. Good luck.
 

Azurik

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: Azurik
In addition, the court's ability to entertain and resolve the disputes churned up by this
litigation has limits. Even were it desirable, the court simply lacks the resources to resolve the issues in Hynix I to enable a swift appeal while simultaneously preparing for the consolidated patent trial in the other three cases.4 The court has thus concluded that a stay of the Northern California actions except Hynix I pending the Federal Circuit's resolution of the spoliation appeals will simplify the proceedings and conserve the parties' and the judiciary's resources.


So that's it then. The court is overwhelmed by the workload. It asks Rambus which was more important, certifying Hynix for damages or staying on schedule for the DDR2 trial and Rambus chose the former and got it.

In laymen's terms is Judge Whyte wants the CAFC to settle the issue of who is right in their spoilation ruling. Him siding with Rambus or Robinson siding with Micron.

The stock is taking a beating after hours... speculators in this stock hates delays.

I might go broke by doing this, but...

I'm transferring $50,000 and buying Rambus tomorrow, hinging on these three ideas:


1) Judge Whyte is issuing damages against Hynix (estimate $300-$500 million) soon.

2) Judge Kramer hopefully stays on track for the AT trial in March.

3) The manufacturers always wanted to settle with Rambus, but their position was too strong and they refused unless it was on their terms. With this delay, they are pressured - just as the manufacturers are with the AT trial looming over them. They're going to have to meet in the middle.

Let us know what you want on your epitaph, just in case...

I hope you were joking. Rule #1: Never put yourself in position to get blown out in a worst case scenario. Good luck.

How can you have two Rule #1s?!? That's impossible! :)

Thanks for the concern, though. This won't bankrupt me by any means, but it will shift more funds I got from the profits of Azurik, Inc. to this never ending saga.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Azurik
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: Azurik
In addition, the court's ability to entertain and resolve the disputes churned up by this
litigation has limits. Even were it desirable, the court simply lacks the resources to resolve the issues in Hynix I to enable a swift appeal while simultaneously preparing for the consolidated patent trial in the other three cases.4 The court has thus concluded that a stay of the Northern California actions except Hynix I pending the Federal Circuit's resolution of the spoliation appeals will simplify the proceedings and conserve the parties' and the judiciary's resources.


So that's it then. The court is overwhelmed by the workload. It asks Rambus which was more important, certifying Hynix for damages or staying on schedule for the DDR2 trial and Rambus chose the former and got it.

In laymen's terms is Judge Whyte wants the CAFC to settle the issue of who is right in their spoilation ruling. Him siding with Rambus or Robinson siding with Micron.

The stock is taking a beating after hours... speculators in this stock hates delays.

I might go broke by doing this, but...

I'm transferring $50,000 and buying Rambus tomorrow, hinging on these three ideas:


1) Judge Whyte is issuing damages against Hynix (estimate $300-$500 million) soon.

2) Judge Kramer hopefully stays on track for the AT trial in March.

3) The manufacturers always wanted to settle with Rambus, but their position was too strong and they refused unless it was on their terms. With this delay, they are pressured - just as the manufacturers are with the AT trial looming over them. They're going to have to meet in the middle.

Let us know what you want on your epitaph, just in case...

I hope you were joking. Rule #1: Never put yourself in position to get blown out in a worst case scenario. Good luck.

How can you have two Rule #1s?!? That's impossible! :)

Thanks for the concern, though. This won't bankrupt me by any means, but it will shift more funds I got from the profits of Azurik, Inc. to this never ending saga.

JS80's rule is important, just not my #1. ;) The most important thing is to stay in the game, and if you're not in the game, there's no need for any rules. Like Naustica said, opportunities are made up easier than losses. Stubbornness and perseverance can be very profitable, but also very deadly and painful if you're wrong. Hopefully this investment and bet on rambus warrants the leverage you're putting on it, and the price you're putting more on at.

 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: Azurik
Originally posted by: HopJokey
Originally posted by: Azurik
In addition, the court's ability to entertain and resolve the disputes churned up by this
litigation has limits. Even were it desirable, the court simply lacks the resources to resolve the issues in Hynix I to enable a swift appeal while simultaneously preparing for the consolidated patent trial in the other three cases.4 The court has thus concluded that a stay of the Northern California actions except Hynix I pending the Federal Circuit's resolution of the spoliation appeals will simplify the proceedings and conserve the parties' and the judiciary's resources.


So that's it then. The court is overwhelmed by the workload. It asks Rambus which was more important, certifying Hynix for damages or staying on schedule for the DDR2 trial and Rambus chose the former and got it.

The stock is taking a beating after hours... patience is wearing thin.

I might go broke by doing this, but...

I'm transferring $50,000 and buying Rambus tomorrow, hinging on these three ideas:

1) Judge Whyte is issuing damages against Hynix (estimate $300-$500 million) soon.

2) Judge Kramer hopefully stays on track for the AT trial in March.

3) The manufacturers always wanted to settle with Rambus, but their position was too strong and they refused unless it was on their terms. With this delay, they are pressured - just as the manufacturers are with the AT trial looming over them. They're going to have to meet in the middle.

Good luck my friend, you will need it.

Thanks. My investment is long-term so we'll see what happens.

If you were looking for a quick trade though, buy RMBS once it hits the lows from this news and sell right after Judge Whyte hands RMBS the $300-$500 million win for Hynix.

At least my second biggest investment in Kraft (KFT) will announce earnings tomorrow morning and continue its outperformance of the markets. Dairy prices have gone down, but Kraft has maintained their higher prices. Their margins should approve and earn between .43-.44 a share. If it beats that, I'd look for some upside along with a nice dividend.

See, I invest is safer stocks ;)

Kraft is getting beat-up premarket after the earnings release. It's down $3/shr from yesterday's close price. It's my biggest holding so it stings. I'm going to let the price settle and add later.
 

ponyo

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Disney and Costco are also getting beat up after their earnings. I don't own either at the moment but both are on my radar as names I want when S&P hits 600-650.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: Azurik
At least my second biggest investment in Kraft (KFT) will announce earnings tomorrow morning and continue its outperformance of the markets. Dairy prices have gone down, but Kraft has maintained their higher prices. Their margins should approve and earn between .43-.44 a share. If it beats that, I'd look for some upside along with a nice dividend.

See, I invest is safer stocks ;)

Kraft is getting beat-up premarket after the earnings release. It's down $3/shr from yesterday's close price. It's my biggest holding so it stings. I'm going to let the price settle and add later.

Missed estimates by a penny they slam the stock for it?...Mr. Market can be so brutal.
Seems to me that it's time to add more shares.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Disney and Costco are also getting beat up after their earnings. I don't own either at the moment but both are on my radar as names I want when S&P hits 600-650.

Costco maybe.
Disney, probably not.
 

ultimatebob

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I wouldn't invest a cent in Rambus. Companies that base their business off of patent trolling usually end up failing when their patent claims are shot down by larger established companies that can demonstrate prior art. Just look at SCO for an example of that.