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***Official*** 2009 Stock Market Thread
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Ballatician
Golden Member
What the heck is going on with INTC? I thought it was in a better position than this...new target is $11.50 by some analysts.
imported_Lothar
Diamond Member
When are you going to accept the club invite that we already sent you? 😕
LordSnailz
Diamond Member
I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with what Intel is doing, actually I think they're a great buy right now. The reason for the recent drop as well as the lower target prices by analyst comes from the fact that demand for PC is much much lower than expected. The mobile division, the one that has been showing the most growth, is also affected by the drop in demand.
The whole semi industry is hurting pretty bad ... if you want something in the semiconductor area then Intel is one the best picks.
Azurik
Platinum Member
The meeting with Judge Whyte went well... a few times during the meeting he tipped his hand where he was leaning. He was thinking of 3 options:
1. Proceed with the trial, starting on February 17th, with EVERYONE, and just send the entire thing up for appeal at the same time.
2. Proceed with the trial, starting on February 17th, with only Micron excluded due to Delaware ruling. If Delware is appealed successfully, then have a seperate Micron trial.
3. Stay trial on appeal, but finalize all his verdicts right now (Hynix Phase I, II and III... Samsung case, Claim Construction case).
He is leaning towards 1 or 2 and wants all the companies to brief him on judicial efficiency. He comments on Judge Robinson's adverse ruling, stating something like:
"It goes against what I found in this court, but it is what it is."
It was brought up how her findings didn't even mention his opinion in the matter when he ruled for Rambus vs Hynix on the same issue. It was also the first time my assistant or anyone else in the court (it was packed that night), heard Judge Whyte mention another judge without the word Honorable in front of it. Small details, but worth noting.
ALL the manufacturers wanted to delay the trial. The Judge wouldn't buy it. Samsung complained that it's going to cost a lot of money sorting through the Delaware mess and the judge remarked, "Yet you couldn't settle?". Samsung than stated that it took two to tango for that to happen. In essence, saying they are in settlement talks, but Rambus wouldn't settle.
This is good news. I bought another $10,000 worth yesterday in the low $8's.
1. Proceed with the trial, starting on February 17th, with EVERYONE, and just send the entire thing up for appeal at the same time.
2. Proceed with the trial, starting on February 17th, with only Micron excluded due to Delaware ruling. If Delware is appealed successfully, then have a seperate Micron trial.
3. Stay trial on appeal, but finalize all his verdicts right now (Hynix Phase I, II and III... Samsung case, Claim Construction case).
He is leaning towards 1 or 2 and wants all the companies to brief him on judicial efficiency. He comments on Judge Robinson's adverse ruling, stating something like:
"It goes against what I found in this court, but it is what it is."
It was brought up how her findings didn't even mention his opinion in the matter when he ruled for Rambus vs Hynix on the same issue. It was also the first time my assistant or anyone else in the court (it was packed that night), heard Judge Whyte mention another judge without the word Honorable in front of it. Small details, but worth noting.
ALL the manufacturers wanted to delay the trial. The Judge wouldn't buy it. Samsung complained that it's going to cost a lot of money sorting through the Delaware mess and the judge remarked, "Yet you couldn't settle?". Samsung than stated that it took two to tango for that to happen. In essence, saying they are in settlement talks, but Rambus wouldn't settle.
This is good news. I bought another $10,000 worth yesterday in the low $8's.
Sad news for Circuit City. Closing down all their stores. 🙁
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/1...ompanies/circuit_city/
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/1...ompanies/circuit_city/
IHateMyJob2004
Lifer
I bought it years ago, sold half at $20 and now wish I sold it all at $20.
I can not find the terms of the new preferred stock anywhere though. Kinda important, you know.
I bought 4K worth of JPM when it was at bout 42. Now it is sitting just under 20 ;/
anyone know why the bank stocks are bombing today? Is it just because that POS euro bank lost 40 billion and everyone is freaking and thinking that because of that, things are worse than they though?
anyone know why the bank stocks are bombing today? Is it just because that POS euro bank lost 40 billion and everyone is freaking and thinking that because of that, things are worse than they though?
imported_Lothar
Diamond Member
I've been looking for that the past 3 days. I couln't find the terms anywhere either.
IHateMyJob2004
Lifer
BAC Press Release and Preferred Stock Terms
Enjoy:
Press release:
http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/hp1356.htm
Terms:
http://www.ustreas.gov/press/r...20term%20sheet%202.pdf
In short, I think the markets are worried about more dilution of BAC stock beyond the recent injection.
ponyo
Lifer
Today we had official bank crash. The banking index (BKX) dropped 20% today to close at 25.34. Anything 20% or over is considered a crash. The banking index is down over 80% from its all time high set less than 2 years ago. Banks like State Street Corp (STT) closed down cool 59% today! Normally the market follows the banks and if that's the case, we could see S&P 650 if followed. Do I think we will get there? Yes, eventually. But I think we'll see a bounce in the banks and the market before that plunge.
I remember when BKX 60 was a major support after the summer crash. That level looks like a mountain now.
I remember when BKX 60 was a major support after the summer crash. That level looks like a mountain now.
IHateMyJob2004
Lifer
The markets will price in a recovery in the economy before the recovery happens. I'm betting that by the end of 2009 we will have a recovery in the stock market.
imported_Lothar
Diamond Member
Essentially the same exact terms that C agreed to in November...Cut and paste.
An 8% interest seems expensive to me IMO.
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