Inspector Jihad
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spurs pwn. this mavs hornets game is good too.
edit: game is on espn360.com if you guys don't have cable.
edit: game is on espn360.com if you guys don't have cable.
Inspector Jihad
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- Apr 17, 2005
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Miramonti
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You sure do. They jumped out on the pick/roll to stop the penetration and it was either leave duncan open behind the 3pt line, or leave parker open in the corner. The suns played it right, no question about it, but duncan made a shot which for him probably had <20% chance of going in imo. The end doesn't justify the means...no one could have expected duncan to make that shot, not even the spurs.
Deeko
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- Jun 16, 2000
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Oh come on, it was a busted defensive play. He wasn't just open - there was no one even NEAR him. He had time to catch the ball, take a quick pit stop, eat a chicken sandwich, make a phone call, and then set up his shot...and even by then no one was near him.
Miramonti
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How could it be busted? Oneal jumped out to not let ginobili into the lane (altho he failed and let him penetrate). Nash's job is to catch up, get in front of ginobili, and oneal can back off. That's the best way to guard ginobili, and they'll always jump out on him to prevent the penetration or quick 3 pointer. Duncan staying out behind the 3 point line was theoretically a gift for the suns - they wouldn't have to guard him and could stay at home on parker. Otherwise if it was Barry behind the line, Parker's defender would have to cheat towards being in the middle of both players.
Its a no brainer, and stopping ginobili with the ball is much more important and a far greater threat than guarding Duncan behind the 3. If it happens again, that's the way it will be played again. The guy didn't make a 3 the whole season! If the ball has to be doubled, like it was on ginobili, then you'd be insane to not leave someone behind the 3 point line that hasn't hit a shot from there the whole season (and you'd be even more insane to leave Parker behind the 3 to guard Duncan behind the 3...which duncan would have kicked it to him if the defender rotated.)
iamme
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- Jul 21, 2001
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actually, if you watch the play, the goat is Shaq for not rotating after the pick/roll. shaq was in no man's land. he wasn't aggressively doubling Ginobili, nor was he guarding Duncan. in the situation of being up three and the clock winding down, phoenix's primary objective was to prevent a three pointer. even if Ginobili hits a layup, Phoenix is still up 1 point. whether designed or not, Shaq blew his defensive assignment.
my guess was that Popovich called for Ginobili to drive and kick it out to whomever he saw open when the defense collapsed. it just happened to be Duncan.
hell of a play and possibly the best game of the playoffs.......
my guess was that Popovich called for Ginobili to drive and kick it out to whomever he saw open when the defense collapsed. it just happened to be Duncan.
hell of a play and possibly the best game of the playoffs.......
TBH I would have left Duncan open all damnn day to shoot the 3, he hasn't made a single one all YEAR, if there is anyone you want taking that shot it is him, it just looks bad because it went in. IF he had missed it everyone would be calling him an idiot.
Uhm, he hasn't made a single one all year because it was the first one he took all YEAR. quote from Pop was that Duncan was the 3rd option and he was scared when it went to him.
Deeko
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jjsole..."the guy" didn't make a 3 all season? "the guy" is Tim Duncan, not some nobody. Yes, he plays PF/C, but he can shoot much better than most big men, and like I said earlier, he is very clutch under pressure. But hey, I was giving te Suns the benefit of the doubt by saying it was a busted play....if you'd prefer to think it was by design to leave potentially the best player in the league compeltely uncovered with a playoff game on the line.....well, that's gotta be the worst coaching I have ever encountered.
That's like saying someone's smarter than most retards, it's irrelevant.
The guy is a career 19% 3 point shooter, he hasn't made one all year, and 6 in the past 4 years. If he was any sort of reliable outside threat, he would play out there instead of posting up all the time.
You give that shot to him, just as you'd leave Shaq open for a three in that situation.
Yeah, the Suns had an 80% chance of winning with that shot based on Duncan's percentage, thats more or less as good as it gets, there was nothing wrong with leaving him open imo.
But now the LAKERS game is on so lets talk about how much better they are than all your crappy teams!
But now the LAKERS game is on so lets talk about how much better they are than all your crappy teams!
DanTMWTMP
Lifer
- Oct 7, 2001
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Wow, Lakers are looking incredibly good. Kobe didn't have a great game, but man, it really felt the Lakers could be sooo much more better than the type of basketball (which was really good ball) they played today. That makes them potentially an insanely scary basketball team.
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