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RedPickle

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.

But throwing at batters is?
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.
But throwing at batters is?
Pitching inside is indeed a part of the game. When a player hangs over the plate he takes away the outside pitch from the pitcher's options. But throwing at someone's back or head is a frustration move too. THe difference between the 2 is that Arod's move has no chance of seriously hurting someone.
 

Brule

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Originally posted by: RedPickle

Your talking about 2 pitches. I'm mostly referring to Mussina's most recent game. He did not get A LOT of calls. If you don't know what I'm talking about, watch the game again if you can and see how frustrated Mussina is at the strike zone. Many calls that Pedro got, Mussina didn't get and vice versa. They are consistent at being inconsistent.

I agree but throw Schilling in game one for the bad calls. He was injured but got robbed. One thing is for sure, this ump crew has royally screwed up the series and should be punished for it.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.
But throwing at batters is?
Pitching inside is indeed a part of the game. When a player hangs over the plate he takes away the outside pitch from the pitcher's options. But throwing at someone's back or head is a frustration move too. THe difference between the 2 is that Arod's move has no chance of seriously hurting someone.
Not seriously hurting anyone, no. But you can knock a pitcher out of a game by dislocating a finger...

 

stickybytes

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
If the Yankees lose game 7, then this will go down as one of the biggest postseason chokes in baseball history (along with the other 1000 Red Sox chokes)
I said this at the beginning of the year... I will laugh my @$$ off if the Yanks don't make it to the world series with all these $$$ players.

agreed. i mean their payroll is in the 180 million range. i think boston is around 130. the 50 million difference is the equivalent of most team's entire payroll already.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: fr
Well I wanted the Yankees to win the series, but there is no excuse for playing dirty.


OWNED!
LMAO nice. Btw if NY loses tomorrow night, they will have set the record for not only worst playoff choke in any sport, but tying the worst regular season loss ever. 22-0!

 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.
But throwing at batters is?
Pitching inside is indeed a part of the game. When a player hangs over the plate he takes away the outside pitch from the pitcher's options. But throwing at someone's back or head is a frustration move too. THe difference between the 2 is that Arod's move has no chance of seriously hurting someone.

I don't think Pedro was pitching inside to Arod yesterday after Jeter hit that 3 run triple.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
If the Yankees lose game 7, then this will go down as one of the biggest postseason chokes in baseball history (along with the other 1000 Red Sox chokes)
I said this at the beginning of the year... I will laugh my @$$ off if the Yanks don't make it to the world series with all these $$$ players.
You're being hypocritical. Does money win or not? If the yankees do not win this year that shows that money does not necessarily win (as evidenced by the Marlins and Angels). So then why will you laugh? Money does not guarantee a championship.

That's not being hypocritical.

Money is a huge advantage. That is undeniable. He is saying that with such a large amount of resources available, you should make the WS. If you don't, then you wasted all of those resources.
Exactly what I would be laughing at. If they make it, it was expected. Look up and down their lineup.. you better make the World Series.

This is equivalent to people laughing at Microsoft failing at something. Suckers.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.
But throwing at batters is?
Pitching inside is indeed a part of the game. When a player hangs over the plate he takes away the outside pitch from the pitcher's options. But throwing at someone's back or head is a frustration move too. THe difference between the 2 is that Arod's move has no chance of seriously hurting someone.

I don't think Pedro was pitching inside to Arod yesterday after Jeter hit that 3 run triple.
So what if he was? Pitching inside is how he makes a living, it's a strategic part of the game.

 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
If the Yankees lose game 7, then this will go down as one of the biggest postseason chokes in baseball history (along with the other 1000 Red Sox chokes)
I said this at the beginning of the year... I will laugh my @$$ off if the Yanks don't make it to the world series with all these $$$ players.
You're being hypocritical. Does money win or not? If the yankees do not win this year that shows that money does not necessarily win (as evidenced by the Marlins and Angels). So then why will you laugh? Money does not guarantee a championship.

That's not being hypocritical.

Money is a huge advantage. That is undeniable. He is saying that with such a large amount of resources available, you should make the WS. If you don't, then you wasted all of those resources.
Exactly what I would be laughing at. If they make it, it was expected. Look up and down their lineup.. you better make the World Series.


I will repeat again, money means playoffs, everything else is up to the player's hearts. a season is 162 games, a playoff series is only 7 (or 5).
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.
But throwing at batters is?
Pitching inside is indeed a part of the game. When a player hangs over the plate he takes away the outside pitch from the pitcher's options. But throwing at someone's back or head is a frustration move too. THe difference between the 2 is that Arod's move has no chance of seriously hurting someone.

I don't think Pedro was pitching inside to Arod yesterday after Jeter hit that 3 run triple.
So what if he was? Pitching inside is how he makes a living, it's a strategic part of the game.

Yes, but he threw at his head. THAT is not strategy, that's being pissed off.
 

Brule

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Originally posted by: The_Wildcard
Indeed, both calls were right. Quite frankly I am surprised at that "slap" manuevuer by Arod. That's not the type of "class" I thought Yankees were known for.

Yankees have class. Willimas, Jeter, Mo, etc all have my respect. A-Rod has been a blight to that image. This series alone he's slapped a tagging pitcher, leaned into a slow curve, (didn't quite hit him) and tried to trip a Boston player at 2nd AFTER he had the ball gone for a double play. Did he just start his crap this year or has it just been undercover? (btw, Cabrera put a nasty Rod Blake style hip check last game, not proud of it but it didn't effect the play) Mueller was the one player Boston couldn't lose because of injury, a major hit to offense and defense. I thought being drilled with the fastball early may have been on purpose but looking back I doubt it.

WTF was the deal with riot gear? Would you rush the field with guys like Manny, Ortiz, Shiefield, or Sierra with a bat? ;)
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.
But throwing at batters is?
Pitching inside is indeed a part of the game. When a player hangs over the plate he takes away the outside pitch from the pitcher's options. But throwing at someone's back or head is a frustration move too. THe difference between the 2 is that Arod's move has no chance of seriously hurting someone.

I don't think Pedro was pitching inside to Arod yesterday after Jeter hit that 3 run triple.
So what if he was? Pitching inside is how he makes a living, it's a strategic part of the game.

Yes, but he threw at his head. THAT is not strategy, that's being pissed off.
Tru, but you said "inside". I didn't know you meant headhunting, pretty big diff.

 

RedPickle

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: RedPickle
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Wait till the Yankees/Torre see the replay of what ARod did... how can you have any respect for a punk move like that, even if he's your teammate?

Right, and I assume running over a catcher at home plate is a very unrespectable thing to do too? A Rod plays with so much heart and he wants to win so bad that he does everything he can, sometimes a little too much. In fact when the Yankees and Torre see the replay of what he did, I'm sure he will get a nice pat on the back for trying all he could.
Anyone who gives him a pat on the back for knocking a player's glove off is classless. That's not the right way to play the game.
But throwing at batters is?
Pitching inside is indeed a part of the game. When a player hangs over the plate he takes away the outside pitch from the pitcher's options. But throwing at someone's back or head is a frustration move too. THe difference between the 2 is that Arod's move has no chance of seriously hurting someone.

I don't think Pedro was pitching inside to Arod yesterday after Jeter hit that 3 run triple.
So what if he was? Pitching inside is how he makes a living, it's a strategic part of the game.


Your comparing attempting to swatting the ball away from an obvious out, to a pitch into someone obviously in retaliation for a great hit? You sir have just cursed the Sox. People like yourself should not be alive.