Offical 2015-16 NFL "Callas Dowboys" Week 6 Thread**

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Phokus

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(3Q) - 1:14 left - 4th & 3 for the Colts on the their 37:
...you are not able to (Punt team begins moving) practice all those throws- Uh oh.
Yeah. ... Now we have got... On a fourth down and three... ... You've got Griff Whalen, ready to take the snap... ...He'll snap it, actually Colt Anderson (Ball snapped) is behind (Next line begins) him.
What. That. (Next line begins) Heck.
And... *Ooh...* What in the world? Flag is down. ... You tell me.
... I thought maybe that they were going to get them to jump offsides...?
Illegal Formation. The whole right side of the line was not on the line of scrimmage. Offensive. This penalty is declined. The result of the play is.. first down for New England.
There is absolutely No Way Possible that they should have snapped that ball and tried to sneak it. There were Three- Four- Five guys around two players, that was insane. You've got a guy on either side of him, what are you doing here? They don't even try to run a play here. I- I've- We've seen (laughing) (Next line) a lot of bizarre stuff, I have never seen anything more bizarre than that.
I'm yea(h? Unknown?)
... What was the plan?
Wel- I do not know. It took them- completely nuts. (Ball snapped) At the 35 now. They have a short field, a six point lead..., and now they have a first down at the 23 yard line. ...No- Nobody had any idea what was going on.
(Unknown?) It had to be a complete screwup.
 

BUTCH1

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Oh look, here's Tony Dungy, ex colt coach, Spygate winier to the extreme who predicted a Colt victory tonight, suck it tony, enjoy the tea-bagging by Brady asshole.
 

emperus

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Fux. Missed that play. A girl I'm dating called me while at was at my boys house. So I stepped out of the room to talk to her (she's sick and said she was going to sleep immediately). Now I'm going to have to cut her (end the relationship) for making me miss that play. Fux.
 

Svnla

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Yesterday a weird play between MSU vs. MI. Today a stupid play between Colts vs. Pats. Stay tuned for Monday Night Football.
 

akugami

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Tom Brady, "Apology accepted."

I guarantee the whole damn stadium was confused on that play. The fans, the refs, the players on both sides. Even the guy snapping the ball didn't know why he did it.

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EDIT: Added the Simpsons pict. Not new but seemed highly appropriate.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Oh look, here's Tony Dungy, ex colt coach, Spygate winier to the extreme who predicted a Colt victory tonight, suck it tony, enjoy the tea-bagging by Brady asshole.

You barely beat a bad Colts team. I wouldn't be celebrating. And to give Dungy some credit, he was a lot closer than I was - I said the Colts would lose by 21, minimum.

I was hoping the Patriots would win big and Irsay would fire Grigson and Pagano after the game, but alas, they made it a good game. This is how they manage to hang on. Hopefully that dumb play enrages Irsay and he has already decided to fire Pagano. However, Grigson is just as big an issue and unfortunately I don't see him gone after this year.

I think the cost was the game. Looks like the Colts gave up after that.

Yeah, they might have ended up winning if they wouldn't have done that boneheaded play. But it doesn't matter, because they'll get exposed in the playoffs unless they run into another weak Denver team (maybe half their defense gets injured by then) and a Brady-less Patriots. This is how Pagano and Grigson hang on - they did fine the first two seasons but seriously regressed last year and this year so far. A lucky string in the playoffs will save them, which is what Colts fans don't want. We want them both gone.

I will say this - Luck lit the Patriots up pretty good. At least THAT'S encouraging and they contained Blount well outside of the one long run. I just don't understand why they can't play this well every week. Oh wait, I can - because Pagano can't coach.
 
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Retro Rob

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You barely beat a bad Colts team. I wouldn't be celebrating.

I was hoping the Patriots would win big and Irsay would fire Grigson and Pagano after the game, but alas, they made it a good game. This is how they manage to hang on.

Personally, I really like you, but you need to dial it back a bit.

Your team has been very successful over the course of about 10-15 years, and has managed to win a superbowl 10 years ago. Even last year, they were actually surprising after that bad start.

You have a competitive team, generally, and a damn good QB.

I don't see why you're complaining, and don't take that personally. :p
 

purbeast0

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Personally, I really like you, but you need to dial it back a bit.

Your team has been very successful over the course of about 10-15 years, and has managed to win a superbowl 10 years ago. Even last year, they were actually surprising after that bad start.

You have a competitive team, generally, and a damn good QB.

I don't see why you're complaining, and don't take that personally. :p

i do find it funny when this happens. working with a ton of ravens fans, it is HILARIOUS to hear them talking this year as though it is the end of the world and that they will never be good.

when the reality is, they are relevant pretty much every year the past decade. but now that they are having 1 bad season it is the end of the world.

being a redskins fan i just find it so hilarious because they don't even have an iota of what true fandom pain feels like.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Personally, I really like you, but you need to dial it back a bit.

Your team has been very successful over the course of about 10-15 years, and has managed to win a superbowl 10 years ago. Even last year, they were actually surprising after that bad start.

You have a competitive team, generally, and a damn good QB.

I don't see why you're complaining, and don't take that personally. :p

It is because we have the best young QB in the game that I'm this way. We saw Irsay squander the Manning years. We don't want to see the same thing with Luck. Pagano is a heck of a nice guy and probably a fair to decent coach, but that isn't going to cut it. Irsay gifted Caldwell the HC job and he gambled on Pagano and it isn't going to pay off. Time to spend the big money on the HC and DC positions.

And Grigson is the worst - a douchebag and a moron, but he has a year left on his contract and I don't see Irsay pulling the plug on him yet. Grigson's whole reputation is built on a single draft - the 2012 draft, when talent literally fell into his lap. Irsay let Chris Polian languish for years too and that likely cost the Colts another Super Bowl. He can't let Grigson hang on if we keep drafting busts or questionable positions.

I'm not going to be a blind fanboy when it comes to the Colts - I'm going to call them (and every other team) on their buffoonery. I was fine with the general progress of the Colts up until last year - you guys don't realize how the wheels came off because it wasn't really reported in the media and they caught some huge breaks in the playoffs (a mediocre Bengals team and a reeling Denver team) to mask their issues. Look at their schedule in 2013 and their wins and compare it to last year - in 2013 they beat just about every good team they played except the Patriots (Denver, Seattle, San Francisco among them) and with the exception of the Ravens (let's face it, the Colts have the Ravens' number) and the Bengals (well, they are the Bungles after all), they lost to all the really good teams last year.

being a redskins fan i just find it so hilarious because they don't even have an iota of what true fandom pain feels like.

This is where you are completely, totally, 100% wrong here. The Colts of the 80s up until the mid 90s were much, much worse than the Redskins with management/ownership even worse than Snyder. They had several 3, 4, and 5 win seasons along with a 1 win season. Let's not forget the story of a drunken Bob Irsay going into the locker room at half time and demanding that certain players be played. That happened late in their Baltimore or early in their Indianapolis days, but Snyder isn't that ridiculous. Close, yes, but not quite. :D
 
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Retro Rob

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i do find it funny when this happens. working with a ton of ravens fans, it is HILARIOUS to hear them talking this year as though it is the end of the world and that they will never be good.

They JUST won a Championship a few years back, and even though they're bad now, just last year, didn't they win a playoff game? I forgot.

when the reality is, they are relevant pretty much every year the past decade. but now that they are having 1 bad season it is the end of the world.

Yep. Lions, Browns, Redskins fans would love to have a relevant team.
 

emperus

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You barely beat a bad Colts team. I wouldn't be celebrating. And to give Dungy some credit, he was a lot closer than I was - I said the Colts would lose by 21, minimum.

I was hoping the Patriots would win big and Irsay would fire Grigson and Pagano after the game, but alas, they made it a good game. This is how they manage to hang on. Hopefully that dumb play enrages Irsay and he has already decided to fire Pagano. However, Grigson is just as big an issue and unfortunately I don't see him gone after this year.



Yeah, they might have ended up winning if they wouldn't have done that boneheaded play. But it doesn't matter, because they'll get exposed in the playoffs unless they run into another weak Denver team (maybe half their defense gets injured by then) and a Brady-less Patriots. This is how Pagano and Grigson hang on - they did fine the first two seasons but seriously regressed last year and this year so far. A lucky string in the playoffs will save them, which is what Colts fans don't want. We want them both gone.

I will say this - Luck lit the Patriots up pretty good. At least THAT'S encouraging and they contained Blount well outside of the one long run. I just don't understand why they can't play this well every week. Oh wait, I can - because Pagano can't coach.

You don't watch much of the Patriots. But they didn't play well at all yesterday. I won't even speak of the injuries. But I doubt you'll see another game where edelman drops so many passes or fumbles a pass into a defender for a TD. You guys were about 3 plays away from it being a blow out; the 4th down TD in the 1st quarter, the edelman fumble/int for a TD and that 3rd down touchdown that Luck threw. Remember, besides that after adjustments, you didn't score in the 2nd half until garbage time.

FYI, you contained Blount, yet the Pats still scored 34 and pretty much passed at will (outside of a lot of drops). Do you see how that works?

Btw, the difference in the teams. The Pats weren't happy at how they executed in the win. The Colts act like they somehow won something.
 
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glenn1

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I will say this - Luck lit the Patriots up pretty good.

Either we watched entirely different games or you have a much lower threshold of "lit up" than me or most people. He was efficient at the short pass game but I didn't see him throw it beyond 10-12 yards or so and some of his passes later in the game didn't have much oomph and NE probably should have picked him off at least a couple times. I know the Pats defense is decent but not amazing but 6.24 yards-per-attempt is pretty pathetic. That's Kirk Cousins territory there, hell Alex Smith is at 7.5 YPA this year.

That being said he's still a better starting QB than PFM, Vick, and a good half-dozen other guys right now. And he gets a cupcake matchup next week in the Saints and their terrible DEF to continue rehabbing his shoulder. Hopefully he's back to 100% by post-season because otherwise the Colts are going to be by far the weakest playoff team and get destroyed by teams like the Bengals, Saints, Jets, and Broncos.
 

IndyColtsFan

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That being said he's still a better starting QB than PFM, Vick, and a good half-dozen other guys right now. And he gets a cupcake matchup next week in the Saints and their terrible DEF to continue rehabbing his shoulder. Hopefully he's back to 100% by post-season because otherwise the Colts are going to be by far the weakest playoff team and get destroyed by teams like the Bengals, Saints, Jets, and Broncos.

Something isn't right with this picture (see above). Are the Saints cupcakes or not? Also, they couldn't play the Saints until the Super Bowl - they'll never meet in the playoffs. I'm assuming you meant Patriots but at any rate, nothing you said above is anything I've ever disagreed with and in fact, have repeatedly pointed out how lucky they got in the playoffs last year. A healthy Manning would've beaten the Colts.

Either we watched entirely different games or you have a much lower threshold of "lit up" than me or most people. He was efficient at the short pass game but I didn't see him throw it beyond 10-12 yards or so and some of his passes later in the game didn't have much oomph and NE probably should have picked him off at least a couple times. I know the Pats defense is decent but not amazing but 6.24 yards-per-attempt is pretty pathetic. That's Kirk Cousins territory there, hell Alex Smith is at 7.5 YPA this year.

You're probably going to see shorter and intermediate passes this year due to blocking. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said "lit it up." He did have a great game though. I'd say anyone throwing 3 TDs and 300+ yards against a Belichick defense is doing pretty damn well, but I was wrong on one point - I was confused and thought the Patriots pass defense was rated higher than it actually is. It is average while the Colts pass defense is bottom tier.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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You don't watch much of the Patriots. But they didn't play well at all yesterday. I won't even speak of the injuries. But I doubt you'll see another game where edelman drops so many passes or fumbles a pass into a defender for a TD. You guys were about 3 plays away from it being a blow out; the 4th down TD in the 1st quarter, the edelman fumble/int for a TD and that 3rd down touchdown that Luck threw. Remember, besides that after adjustments, you didn't score in the 2nd half until garbage time.

Every team deals with injuries and every team has drops. The Colts last year (IIRC) were near the top in drops. It sucks, I know. BTW, it was an INT.

FYI, you contained Blount, yet the Pats still scored 34 and pretty much passed at will (outside of a lot of drops). Do you see how that works?

Uh...yeah? Can you tell me where I have ever stated the Colts defense was good? Blount was responsible for beating them most games and they contained him, but obviously Manuresky's scheme wasn't complete. Why? Because Greg Manusky sucks, that's why. The Colts defense is 29th overall. The problem is they're very erratic - some games they do look great but others, they get steamrolled. Some idiot (maybe Peter King) was saying how this is the best Colts defense in years - not a ringing endorsement when the Colts are #20 against the run and #28 against pass.

Btw, the difference in the teams. The Pats weren't happy at how they executed in the win. The Colts act like they somehow won something.

That is about the only prop I will give Belichick. I despise him as a person but his preparation and expectations are top notch.
 
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purbeast0

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This is where you are completely, totally, 100% wrong here. The Colts of the 80s up until the mid 90s were much, much worse than the Redskins with management/ownership even worse than Snyder. They had several 3, 4, and 5 win seasons along with a 1 win season. Let's not forget the story of a drunken Bob Irsay going into the locker room at half time and demanding that certain players be played. That happened late in their Baltimore or early in their Indianapolis days, but Snyder isn't that ridiculous. Close, yes, but not quite. :D

i'm talking about a little more recently than 30 years ago lol.
 

IndyColtsFan

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i'm talking about a little more recently than 30 years ago lol.

Well, the point being is that I know very well how you Redskins fans feel. At least in the case of the Colts, our owner is probably fine - which is good, since he is very very hard to replace unlike coaches. :)
 

glenn1

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Something isn't right with this picture (see above). Are the Saints cupcakes or not? Also, they couldn't play the Saints until the Super Bowl - they'll never meet in the playoffs. I'm assuming you meant Patriots but at any rate, nothing you said above is anything I've ever disagreed with and in fact, have repeatedly pointed out how lucky they got in the playoffs last year. A healthy Manning would've beaten the Colts.

You're correct of course, had Saints on the brain there. And unfortunately Luck's stats are resembling the noodle-armed PFM's so far this year (Luck is attempting about 2 more passes per game):

Luck (4 games): 95/166 for 1065 yards (57.2% complete, 6.4 YPA), 8 TD / 7 INT
PFM (6 games): 146/237 for 1524 yards (61.6% complete, 6.4 YPA), 7 TD / 10 INT

You're probably going to see shorter and intermediate passes this year due to blocking. Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said "lit it up." He did have a great game though. I'd say anyone throwing 3 TDs and 300+ yards against a Belichick defense is doing pretty damn well, but I was wrong on one point - I was confused and thought the Patriots pass defense was rated higher than it actually is. It is average while the Colts pass defense is bottom tier.

Hey, if it works they should stick with it but something tells me that upcoming games will take Luck's current arm strength into account in game planning and reduce its effectiveness quite a bit. I like Luck (when healthy might be fighting Rodgers for best QB in the league) and wish he could have rested through the bye and truly been at 100% upon his return, but I understand they might not have made the playoff cut with tough games against CAR and DEN coming up. Only thing is even with Luck back they still might end up going into the bye at 3-6.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Hey, if it works they should stick with it but something tells me that upcoming games will take Luck's current arm strength into account in game planning and reduce its effectiveness quite a bit. I like Luck (when healthy might be fighting Rodgers for best QB in the league) and wish he could have rested through the bye and truly been at 100% upon his return, but I understand they might not have made the playoff cut with tough games against CAR and DEN coming up. Only thing is even with Luck back they still might end up going into the bye at 3-6.

I think they're a playoff lock because of their division and personally, I probably would've rested Luck last night and let Hasselbeck play. Their remaining opponents are:

HOME
Saints
Broncos
Buccaneers
Texans
Titans

AWAY
Panthers
Falcons
Steelers
Jaguars
Dolphins

More than likely (though nothing is guaranteed), they'll win their remaining 3 division games. I think they'll beat the Bucs. The Saints and Dolphins are wild cards IMO and could go either way depending on which versions of those teams show up. I could see them MAYBE upsetting the Steelers if Vick is still playing, though it will be tough. The Broncos game could be a slug fest but I'd consider it a long shot.

So I think they'll finish anywhere between 7-9 and 10-6. 7-9 probably gives them the division and maybe even a 6-10 record would as well. As far as them making the playoffs, I'm not terribly concerned - I'm more concerned about their play and future.
 

Svnla

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How about them Fins. With all the firings and changings, finally they won another game. We will see if things will continue to work or not soon when they face the Pats.
 

glenn1

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Pats were the beneficiaries of the ButtFumble also. Week 7 thread should have a poll about which was the worse play.

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