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AndrewR

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There's some good advice here. Don't be an idiot; don't be a wiseass -- you'll do fine. Hopefully you're in decent shape so you don't fall out of a run or anything of that nature.

In any event, your first base will be determined by your job. Fortunately, there are a lot of people who don't want to go overseas for some odd reason, particularly to Asia. Yokota is a decent base, rather small, but well placed for touring the mainland (if you can afford it). It's about a 60 minute train ride from downtown Tokyo and all the craziness that that implies.

COLA (Cost of Living Allowance) is excellent, but you won't see much of that living on base unfortunately. Chances of living off base are fairly slim unless you make E-5, and even that's not a guarantee depending on the dorm availablity. Here are Kadena, E-5s are still living on base because there are too many dorms open.

One option for you is to volunteer for Korea. It's a one year tour, and if you extend beyond that, there are cash incentives. Also, when you leave Korea, you get a preference for your next assignment so you would be better situated for Europe since many people compete for the slots there. I have heard, however, that many people are volunteering for Korea these days to avoid service in Iraq or Afghanistan -- cowards (when you're in Korea, you are not part of the Air Expeditionary Force [AEF] deployment cycle, you'll learn all about that in due time).

Just don't go to Wright-Patterson... The drivers in Dayton will kill you for sure.

Great, we leave 3 May for Wright-Pat. ;)

...because the Air Force does not admit unattractive or overweight females...

You've apparently not seen the entire active duty force or even a significant portion of it.

I didn't get any bonus, but there are definately a lot of perks -- talk to a recruiter for more information on that. I know after four years, they give you a re-enlistment bonus if you stay with the AF, and from what the recruiter and some officers told me, can be very sizeable, but always mileage may very.

Bonuses have been slashed in a huge way over the past few years. There are only 13 AFSCs that now receive bonuses on the enlisted side, if I remember correctly (intel including linguists, special ops types, maybe some comm folks). The qualifying AFSCs fluctuate, though some of them seem fairly constant since they are always critically manned. The reenlistment bonuses can be very nice, especially if you reenlist in a no-tax zone.

As for officers, unless you are a pilot or a doctor, you can't expect a bonus. There are three non-pilot, non-medical bonuses right now. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is an Air Battle Manager. I think Pararescue officers and Combat Controllers get bonuses, too (that would be three). Comm officers used to get a bonus, but they slashed that away. Pilots can get $250,000 for a ten year commitment after their initial ten year service (paid $125,000 up front, with $12,500 per year thereafter). That's changed a little recently though, not sure what the current incentive is. Regardless, it's BS since airlines are dying, and pilots are scrambling to get back into uniform.
 

bmacd

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i can give you advice RE: army basic training from my experience at Ft. Benning (sept. 04-jan05). Volunteer for everything. Take the initiative and give yourself a leadership position. Always maintain your military bearing. Get lots of your friend's addresses so you can write back and forth to them. Bring pictures of friends, families, and personal items (like your car or motorcycle if it makes you feel good). Make lots of friends in reception b/c most of those guys will be in your company when you ship down range to basic. Make as many friends within your platoon and company during basic. You'll be surprised where a good relationship will take you.

Remember, we are the guardian of freedom and the American way of life...

Hooah!

-=bmacd=-
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Dont get worn out doing jumping jacks and sipping pinacoladas next to the pool. My grandfather was a AP in the Air Force, he said highschool football was tougher than Air force basic.
 

edro

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Try not to get washed out for "asthma". My sister made it through and she was a cheerleader all through school. You better be physically fit, able to do countless pushups and be able to run many miles a day.
 

nakedfrog

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IIRC, neutral shoe polish can be very effective at removing boot scuff marks from tile floors.
Use that giant fan in your dorm to help dry the floors faster when you wash and wax them.
Use your shower shoes to wipe the dust out from under your bed in the morning.
There's a good chance you won't experience any bowel movements for a few days to a week or two.
 

JDMnAR1

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May 12, 2003
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Since I was never in the military, I won't even pretend to be able to give you advice on how to survive basic. Sounds like you have gotten some good information on that already. I can tell you that I was an AF brat - and spent three years at Spangdahlem and three years at Ramstein. Actually graduated from HS at Ramstein, so was at an age where I knew and hung out with quite a few enlisted troops. For single airmen, housing was not plush (think older dormitory buildings), but chances are that you won't be spending a whole lot of waking time there. If you aren't at work, and aren't sleeping, you will probably be out and about - either somewhere on base (like the gym or the rec center or something) or off base checking out the countryside, or at one of many watering holes, etc. I don't think too many of the people I hung out with sat in their rooms much.


Ramstein AB
 

EagleKeeper

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The heat is not that bad at this time of year. You will be out before it gets to hot. I did my OCS in Jun-Aug. We literaly fried eggs on the sidewalks.

Best thing is to get yourself into the best physical shape you can.

Run, Run, Run.
If you can toss a 10-15 wieght pack on you while doing it, so much the better.

You first base of assignment may depend on your speciality (MOS). More speciallized it is, the less opportuninty you may have, howver what is available wis more likely to match up with your choice.

If possible, get a assignment committment lock in before hand.

AndrewR is rotating back from Japan, he may be able to provide you some pointers.
 

Armitage

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Your gonna have your TI in your face screaming at you for something. You need to be able to pick out the relavent bits (ie. what you fvcked up), and let the rest go. Don't take it personally, and don't get spun up over it. Easy to say, hard to do - you kind of develop a certain detachment from the situation. Never smile, never suck up :p

Regarding volunteering, etc. - depends I guess. They like to see initiative, but it is an additional opportunity to fvck up.
 

MidasKnight

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Originally posted by: Literati
My only advice for a noob going in there would be.. fight everyone.

It's just like jail. If you don't do this no one will respect you.



I'm sure that your experience while in prison but for boot camp you are very wrong.:roll:

Served US ARMY 83-85


Good Luck in the Air Force ! :beer:
 

KK

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Just picture your TI naked when he's yelling at you. That may only work if you have a female one though. I had a female one.
 

chrisms

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Originally posted by: KK
Just picture your TI naked when he's yelling at you. That may only work if you have a female one though. I had a female one.


Guys can get female ones? I was watching some of the videos at airforce.com and one of them seemed like a real bitch.. I would want to tell her to fsck off.
 

dquan97

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Jul 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: edro13
Try not to get washed out for "asthma". My sister made it through and she was a cheerleader all through school. You better be physically fit, able to do countless pushups and be able to run many miles a day.

Interesting that you mentioned this. I got medically discharged for asthma in August while in AF boot camp. I'm in shape, but had trouble running without wheezing. And outprocessing (in the 319th sqdrn) took over 2 weeks, which is forever. I was in for a total of about 5weeks before flying home.

Tips:
1. Learn how to shine shoes into a gloss. There are two brands of boots that you can pick from...I forgot the names, but one will be a lot easier to polish than the other. Be sure to use water to polish the boots in order to seal the pores. Use cotton balls + little water + very little polish. Repeat x 100. Then buff with pantyhose.

2. Remember to use your reporting statments with each new conversation with a TI. When talking to two TIs, they tend to speak after each other, so use a reporting statement with each answer. I did well at this during locker inspection.

3. Here's a big tip: Use two set of clothing-one for regular use and one for presentation. That way, your clothing drawer is always inspection-ready. Just be sure not to get caught, as your TI may be particular about finding this out. The same applies for a towel, which has to be at the end of the bed, crisp, flush, and without any loose threads. Use your imagination as to storing your clothing for regular use...btw, you're provided with a bag for storing laundry that is rarely inspected.

Let me know if you want to hear more. Be sure that your loved ones write to you as often as they can, because letters kept you sane most of the time.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: adambooth

He said the first week or so you want to just turn tail and run home, and you wonder what you got yourself into.

Best wishes Adam :beer:

Remember though even if you think you signed up for 4 years, there is a clause that says thay have you for 8 years.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: dquan97

Tips:
1. Learn how to shine shoes into a gloss. There are two brands of boots that you can pick from...I forgot the names, but one will be a lot easier to polish than the other. Be sure to use water to polish the boots in order to seal the pores. Use cotton balls + little water + very little polish. Repeat x 100. Then buff with pantyhose.

2. Remember to use your reporting statments with each new conversation with a TI. When talking to two TIs, they tend to speak after each other, so use a reporting statement with each answer. I did well at this during locker inspection.

3. Here's a big tip: Use two set of clothing-one for regular use and one for presentation. That way, your clothing drawer is always inspection-ready. Just be sure not to get caught, as your TI may be particular about finding this out. The same applies for a towel, which has to be at the end of the bed, crisp, flush, and without any loose threads. Use your imagination as to storing your clothing for regular use...btw, you're provided with a bag for storing laundry that is rarely inspected.

Let me know if you want to hear more. Be sure that your loved ones write to you as often as they can, because letters kept you sane most of the time.

I don't remember being offered more than one choice of boots, but this was also almost 8 years ago. I don't think I got stuck in any conversations with multiple TIs (but then again I was fairly efficient at being invisible).

Another big one--do NOT, under ANY circumstances, allow yourself to fall asleep while on duty as dorm guard. I'd tell you the dorm guard's phrase if I could remember it, but you'll need to be able to spit that out quickly when under duress.
 

dquan97

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Jul 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: dquan97

Tips:
1. Learn how to shine shoes into a gloss. There are two brands of boots that you can pick from...I forgot the names, but one will be a lot easier to polish than the other. Be sure to use water to polish the boots in order to seal the pores. Use cotton balls + little water + very little polish. Repeat x 100. Then buff with pantyhose.

2. Remember to use your reporting statments with each new conversation with a TI. When talking to two TIs, they tend to speak after each other, so use a reporting statement with each answer. I did well at this during locker inspection.

3. Here's a big tip: Use two set of clothing-one for regular use and one for presentation. That way, your clothing drawer is always inspection-ready. Just be sure not to get caught, as your TI may be particular about finding this out. The same applies for a towel, which has to be at the end of the bed, crisp, flush, and without any loose threads. Use your imagination as to storing your clothing for regular use...btw, you're provided with a bag for storing laundry that is rarely inspected.

Let me know if you want to hear more. Be sure that your loved ones write to you as often as they can, because letters kept you sane most of the time.

I don't remember being offered more than one choice of boots, but this was also almost 8 years ago. I don't think I got stuck in any conversations with multiple TIs (but then again I was fairly efficient at being invisible).

Another big one--do NOT, under ANY circumstances, allow yourself to fall asleep while on duty as dorm guard. I'd tell you the dorm guard's phrase if I could remember it, but you'll need to be able to spit that out quickly when under duress.

During Dorm Guard duty, there's a call box next to the door that the TIs use from the squadron HQ. I believe the phrase is "Sir/Ma'am, Dorm Guard Dorm ##, how can I help you?" While working as a dorm guard at night, you're paired up with someone else. If you really want to sleep, be sure that your partner wakes you up if he hears something. While on duty, you'd have to walk around the dorm and bathrooms every 30mins-1hr. Depending on your TI, you also may have to copy (by hand) the dorm guard FAQ sheet that is in the dorm guard manual. TIs have the tendency to be sneaky and go through the fire exit, just to surprise the dorm guards on duty.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: dquan97

During Dorm Guard duty, there's a call box next to the door that the TIs use from the squadron HQ. I believe the phrase is "Sir/Ma'am, Dorm Guard Dorm ##, how can I help you?" While working as a dorm guard at night, you're paired up with someone else. If you really want to sleep, be sure that your partner wakes you up if he hears something. While on duty, you'd have to walk around the dorm and bathrooms every 30mins-1hr. Depending on your TI, you also may have to copy (by hand) the dorm guard FAQ sheet that is in the dorm guard manual. TIs have the tendency to be sneaky and go through the fire exit, just to surprise the dorm guards on duty.

Huh. We didn't get paired up for dorm guard duty. Guess things are changing :p
 

FoBoT

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military boot camp is simple, do everything they tell you , exactly the way they tell, as soon/as fast as possible
 

dquan97

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
military boot camp is simple, do everything they tell you , exactly the way they tell, as soon/as fast as possible

"hurry up and wait" :)