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kage69

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In their defense, NYT wants both guys gone from the race. From Politico:



"A scathing, five-part piece by The New York Times editorial board published Thursday morning leaves no room for doubt about who they think should be elected in November: anyone but Donald Trump. “Mr. Trump has shown a character unworthy of the responsibilities of the presidency,” the board, made up of 14 Times opinion journalists, wrote.

“He has demonstrated an utter lack of respect for the Constitution, the rule of law and the American people. Instead of a cogent vision for the country’s future, Mr. Trump is animated by a thirst for political power: to use the levers of government to advance his interests, satisfy his impulses and exact retribution against those who he thinks have wronged him.” The board breaks their reasons Trump should not lead the country into five things they believe “matter”: moral fitness, principled leadership, character, “a president’s words” and the rule of law.

Not only does the Times denounce Trump as an individual, it places Trump and the Republican Party as one in the same ahead of the upcoming convention. “A once great political party now serves the interests of one man, a man as demonstrably unsuited for the office of president as any to run in the long history of the Republic, a man whose values, temperament, ideas and language are directly opposed to so much of what has made this country great,” they wrote.
 
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Stokely

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Reading that RFK jr would be "interested" in being the Democratic nominee if offered.

No thanks you anti-vax looney. You are maybe better than Trump but that's a hell of a low bar.

Reading also that Joe "quit being a Democrat" Manchin may now become a democrat again and he'd also be interested. I mean this in the nicest possible way: fuck off, Joe. I guess you were the best we could hope for from W. Virginia, and seeing how my state has Desantis running things I'd probably take you as governor here. Again, low ass bar.

Who cares about the NYT. Trump is right about one thing, they suck.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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You simply do not know that. It is not knowable. You ask for honesty while being dishonest yourself.
Nah I can simply know that. Call it time travel, call it seeing the future, call it obvious human behavior; Harris is a better candidate in 2024 than Biden is. If she can't get it across the goal line, Biden wouldn't either. I reserve judgement on any other potential candidates because I'm not omnipotent.
 

QueBert

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CBS spoke with the orange goblin on the phone after the announcement and he won't debate her until after its official at the DNC. She's going to mop the floor with him.

His followers will say he won regardless of how well she did. I've seen countless MAGAs on YT videos calling AOC a brainless idiot who's unfit to work at Mcdonald's. And they call Crocket about the same. People who support Trump, Boebert & MTG calling anyone dumb is hilarious.

I suppose the debate would be useful for the people who are still on the fence. But it's hard for me to imagine people unsure if they'll vote for him or not being convinced not to by a debate. At this point if you'll possibly still be voting for him you'll probably end up voting for him.


Goddamn trump is about to get obliterated. Like T1 enh shaman with hand of ragnaros obliterated.

When I saw this info earlier it really warmed my heart. Of the many annoying things MAGAs would consistently do is brag about how Trump was raising so much more money than Biden. I know it'll slow down, but I hope the donations continue to where she'll have outraised Trump. Considering how late in the game she's jumping in, that would be just lovely to be able to bring up to MAGAs.
 

dank69

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Sure, and black is white, water is dry, Jesus is your enemy and God spends all his time eating rats, drinking urine and rolling loaded dice.

You are certifiably insane.
Hey Muse, I think he was talking about conservative brain defect when he said slaves. They are free to think and act the way they want because they aren't bound by logical thinking. Quote from the Bible justifies what you think people must do in a certain situation? God's literal word. Quote three verses away contradicts what you are actually doing? God changed his mind because Jesus, but only that part, not the other part. Part of the text in The Constitution supports your position? The Founders knew what they were doing. Full unedited text weakens your position? That's not what they meant!

You can never be doing bad things because you're on a mission from God.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Isn’t it interesting America in 2024.

2 Jews disqualifier
2 blacks disqualifier
2 women disqualifier
1 woman 1 gay guy disqualifier

2 white guys is acceptable. But America isn’t racist/sexist??
To be slightly fair. The people generally saying that are the non-racists who are worried about the racists/sexists.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Who cares about the NYT. Trump is right about one thing, they suck.

Of course, they hate him and he hates anyone who doesn't fawn over him. A better question: who the hell gives half a rat's ass about what Trump thinks of any media? Forget that douchebag and instead indicate what part of that quote you take exception to, give me something to work with.

Just adding some context to the issue of their resistance towards Joe Biden's re-election, for posterity's sake. The Times may not be what it once was, but they're also not wrong about Trump. Given people kvetch over NYT's 'Old White Dem' problem, odd that they came out for Biden stepping aside, no?

I definitely support the notion of Manchin and Kennedy fucking off long term though. Florida resident huh? Sorry. I miss Monroe County some, that's about it.
 
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biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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Just put your lips on the cup like a man.
Not for me, I don't drink beer with straws. It's for my kids

Try jamming paper straws into the hole in juice boxes. That's when you'll miss the plastic straws. Otherwise I couldn't care less. :p
 

Muse

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Hey Muse, I think he was talking about conservative brain defect when he said slaves. They are free to think and act the way they want because they aren't bound by logical thinking. Quote from the Bible justifies what you think people must do in a certain situation? God's literal word. Quote three verses away contradicts what you are actually doing? God changed his mind because Jesus, but only that part, not the other part. Part of the text in The Constitution supports your position? The Founders knew what they were doing. Full unedited text weakens your position? That's not what they meant!

You can never be doing bad things because you're on a mission from God.
Having read Frederick Douglass's autobiography and 12 Years a Slave I know that slaves in America were tortured and terrorized far beyond the ken of most all Americans alive today. I resented the assertion that slaves are free to think what they want. The cruel people that owned them and their overseers, the worst of them in particular, tried to stamp out free thinking. Read just the beginning of Douglass' book. Slavery was America's original sin.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Oh, America is most definitely racist and sexist.
Oh, America is definitely not. We have already had a black president and black woman VP. Several cities are completely run by minorities. And as far as sexist, nope.
 
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trenchfoot

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Simply can't wait for Kamala to start picking away at how old Trump is. Please please please Kamala start this senility dig at Trump with a ton of TNT and after you make that hole big enough and dumped Trump down that hole make sure you finish him off with a pile driver loaded with Trump's illustrious incriminating rap sheet dotting every "i" and crossing even the tiniest little "t". Do it. Git some. Go hard. Sic 'em girl.
 

Zorba

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Simply can't wait for Kamala to start picking away at how old Trump is. Please please please Kamala start this senility dig at Trump with a ton of TNT and after you make that hole big enough and dumped Trump down that hole make sure you finish him off with a pile driver loaded with Trump's illustrious incriminating rap sheet dotting every "i" and crossing even the tiniest little "t". Do it. Git some. Go hard. Sic 'em girl.
This is like the opposite of what happened when McCain selected Palin. His biggest, most effective attack on Obama was lack of experience, then he selected a completely inexperienced dumb dumb killing that attack line. While one of the best attacks against Trump is he is old in senile, but we couldn't use that because Biden was older. But now we traded down to relative youth.
 

biostud

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This is like the opposite of what happened when McCain selected Palin. His biggest, most effective attack on Obama was lack of experience, then he selected a completely inexperienced dumb dumb killing that attack line. While one of the best attacks against Trump is he is old in senile, but we couldn't use that because Biden was older. But now we traded down to relative youth.
But as long as Biden holds the Office I think it will be quite difficult to use that attack angle, without outing Biden which wouldn't be very respectful.