Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

[MrSquished]

Nm

 

[Jaskalas]

Jesus christ

[Biden told Rep. Jason Crow] "‘Tell me something you’ve never done with your Bronze Star like my son,’ this member of Congress told me. 'Had the assassination attempt not occurred an hour later, I imagine 50 people on that Zoom were ready to come out publicly against him'"

Worse than the debate.... in a call with Democrats to discuss campaign strategy. Joe couldn't do it.
The man who ran for President in 2020 is already gone. This is a shell of the former.

At this point fuck Joe Biden, fuck Jill Biden, and fuck anybody in his inner circle helping this continue.

Don't know about you, I'm still voting for a corpse over Trump any day.

 

[Indus]

Uhm, the mountain died.

Not in season 4!

 

[gothuevos]

Everyone at the DNC needs to be fired after the election, they simply need to start over. The fastest political implosion I've ever seen. One party absolutely wrecked in less than a month.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813316390608412803

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Everyone at the DNC needs to be fired after the election, they simply need to start over. The fastest political implosion I've ever seen. One party absolutely wrecked in less than a month.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813316390608412803

How about we collectively fire all of them. Republicans don't want to serve the people, and while Democrats seem to want to, they're too paralyzed by fear to just take the steps needed to serve us.

Like sweep the board and start over with new people please.

 

[Brainonska511]

Everyone at the DNC needs to be fired after the election, they simply need to start over. The fastest political implosion I've ever seen. One party absolutely wrecked in less than a month.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813316390608412803

The parties (eg, "The DNC") are inherently weak. This is a feature, not a bug, after reforms starting after 1968.

 

[fskimospy]

The parties (eg, "The DNC") are inherently weak. This is a feature, not a bug, after reforms starting after 1968.

Yeah I don’t think people understand how political parties in America work.

When there is an incumbent president the DNC and the RNC are run by that person. Of course they do what he wants. This is not new.

 

[Brainonska511]

How about we collectively fire all of them. Republicans don't want to serve the people, and while Democrats seem to want to, they're too paralyzed by fear to just take the steps needed to serve us.

Like sweep the board and start over with new people please.

Too many Democrats are beholden to the non-profit industrial complex. "We need to study the problem some more before anything is implemented." Time to just take a stance and start implementing policy. If something is not working, take steps to fix it.

Some more local-level examples that come to mind: LA spending $2.5 million to study whether it is worth closing a road running through a park, and NYC spending millions on consultants to tell the city to put trash bags inside containers - both things that are very obvious or low stakes to just fucking try (eg, the road closure - something that plenty of cities have tried in the past). And this type of thinking just permeates up through the party ecosystem.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Too many Democrats are beholden to the non-profit industrial complex. "We need to study the problem some more before anything is implemented." Time to just take a stance and start implementing policy. If something is not working, take steps to fix it.

Some more local-level examples that come to mind: LA spending $2.5 million to study whether it is worth closing a road running through a park, and NYC spending millions on consultants to tell the city to put trash bags inside containers - both things that are very obvious or low stakes to just fucking try (eg, the road closure - something that plenty of cities have tried in the past). And this type of thinking just permeates up through the party ecosystem.

And much of that is just moneymaking busy work, I just wish people would spend more effort busying themselves with shit that actually mattered.

 

[Brainonska511]

And much of that is just moneymaking busy work, I just wish people would spend more effort busying themselves with shit that actually mattered.

We can't know if it is busy work until we spend millions of dollars on consulting contracts to see if these outside consultants are worthwhile. /s

 

[fskimospy]

Too many Democrats are beholden to the non-profit industrial complex. "We need to study the problem some more before anything is implemented." Time to just take a stance and start implementing policy. If something is not working, take steps to fix it.

Some more local-level examples that come to mind: LA spending $2.5 million to study whether it is worth closing a road running through a park, and NYC spending millions on consultants to tell the city to put trash bags inside containers - both things that are very obvious or low stakes to just fucking try (eg, the road closure - something that plenty of cities have tried in the past). And this type of thinking just permeates up through the party ecosystem.

Unfortunately in many cases our insane environmental review laws make lighting money on fire like this required.

For example LA is currently mired in litigation for not conducting an environmental review of the effects of NOT drilling for more oil.

The first step to a more functional government is to abolish environmental review lawsuits and return that job to the government.

 

[Muse]

Worse than the debate.... in a call with Democrats to discuss campaign strategy. Joe couldn't do it.
The man who ran for President in 2020 is already gone. This is a shell of the former.


Don't know about you, I'm still voting for a corpse over Trump any day.

Same here but I'm not sure there are going to be enough of us. Current piece at The New York Times saying it's not a done deal, but the comments are uniformly pessimistic and many of them, if not the great majority are by very angry people who were counting on Biden and feel betrayed both by him and the DNC people. Very depressing read last evening prior to my bedtime. I was trying to stay optimistic but now wonder if the best chance for avoiding a catastrophe in November isn't an open convention for Democrats.

I keep thinking I don't know where this is going and hope for some positive surprises.

 

[Roger Wilco]

#nothingmatters?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813565994935189505

 

[Roger Wilco]

DNC says virtual roll call not happening until August.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813567258951823718

 

[gothuevos]

The only reason you are like this is because you are so down on Kamala due to the fucking wack bubble you live in, it's really fucking ridiculous at this point. If there was a different VP to step up, you'd be screaming for Biden to drop out. Just get over yourself. Is she the ideal candidate? I don't think so. But she is definitely better than Biden. But we don't want to upset the racist Indian cabbie race purity warrior demographic do we!

I don't think Nancy Pelosi is pushing Biden out.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4775982-biden-withdrawal-democratic-fracture/

 

[K1052]

Lol. I guarantee you that the vast majority of Americans have no idea who these people are. Low name recognition inflating their numbers.

The strongest potential candidates are (in alphabetical order) Arizona Sen. MARK KELLY, Maryland Gov. WES MOORE, Pennsylvania Gov. JOSH SHAPIRO and Michigan Gov. GRETCHEN WHITMER. All four outpaced Biden “by roughly 5 points across battleground states.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813567925191631164

Look at the big "can't rate" number for Whitmer and Newsom in this Fox poll and the very low one for Harris.

 

[Brainonska511]

Lol. I guarantee you that the vast majority of Americans have no idea who these people are. Low name recognition inflating their numbers.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813567925191631164

Look at the big "can't rate" number for Whitmer and Newsom in this Fox poll and the very low one for Harris.


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That's why these types of polls are useless. People just wish-cast their ideas on to a candidate they don't know. Everyone loves "someone else" until the rubber meets the road.

Breaking with the administration will have much worse long-term outcomes for any progressive policy: it basically signals politically that all those ideas that got passed are loser things that don't get you votes. So when the next recession comes around, don't look for stimulus, and don't look for big infrastructure bills...

 

[K1052]

That's why these types of polls are useless. People just wish-cast their ideas on to a candidate they don't know. Everyone loves "someone else" until the rubber meets the road.

Breaking with the administration will have much worse long-term outcomes for any progressive policy: it basically signals politically that all those ideas that got passed are loser things that don't get you votes. So when the next recession comes around, don't look for stimulus, and don't look for big infrastructure bills...

America is pretty clearly telling the political class that 10% unemployment is better than any amount of inflation above 2% and they have ears.

 

[MrSquished]

Turns out the media, and the Republican party, were correct about Biden's mental capacity and fortitude. He is not fit for office.

That doesn't change that the Republican party is pure evil, but, they have finally been right about something. A broken clock and all.

 

[Brainonska511]

America is pretty clearly telling the political class that 10% unemployment is better than any amount of inflation above 2% and they have ears.

Yes. But the political class has also done a piss-poor job managing expectations and communicating. They just let "the vibes" run rampant like a poison, and the local and state level politicians have done just about fuck all for one of the biggest concerns people have (housing costs) that feeds into the vibes.

 

[K1052]

Yes. But the political class has also done a piss-poor job managing expectations and communicating. They just let "the vibes" run rampant like a poison, and the local and state level politicians have done just about fuck all for one of the biggest concerns people have (housing costs) that feeds into the vibes.

The media's huge negativity bias guarantees enormous coverage of things like rising prices/interest rates and little of things like low unemployment, falling prices, increasing wages, GDP growth, fatter personal savings, etc. The actual problems we face like excessive housing costs are obfuscated the same way as just something that's occurred without informing people about the how/why and what actually could be done about it. I'm not convinced that any amount of messaging from the politicians can overcome this just like Trump could not talk his way out of his piss poor COVID response.

 

[brycejones]

I like Whitmer but I have no doubt that she would quickly be portrayed as an "aggressive and hateful woman" to drive those negatives up. Newsome will be the second coming of Lenin from the dip shits who don't get there are like 12 real Marxists in the US.

 

[gothuevos]

I like Whitmer but I have no doubt that she would quickly be portrayed as an "aggressive and hateful woman" to drive those negatives up. Newsome will be the second coming of Lenin from the dip shits who don't get there are like 12 real Marxists in the US.

Newsome is just a bad choice all around as he doesnt even have great approvals in CA where he hasn't done a great job. He exudes "elite politician" too much, those days are over. He's a great Internet troll tho.

 

[Indus]

I like Whitmer but I have no doubt that she would quickly be portrayed as an "aggressive and hateful woman" to drive those negatives up. Newsome will be the second coming of Lenin from the dip shits who don't get there are like 12 real Marxists in the US.

I like Gretchen and Pete a lot more than Kam but even I know they'll run into roadblocks.

As a standard of a large tent party.. you get the guy you pisses off the least amount of people.. a lesson that should be seared into our minds after Hildabeast..

CANNOT OVERCOME UNFAVORABLES!

Realistically speaking.. Fetterman or Warnock piss off the least amount of people!

 

[Indus]

The media's huge negativity bias guarantees enormous coverage of things like rising prices/interest rates and little of things like low unemployment, falling prices, increasing wages, GDP growth, fatter personal savings, etc. The actual problems we face like excessive housing costs are obfuscated the same way as just something that's occurred without informing people about the how/why and what actually could be done about it. I'm not convinced that any amount of messaging from the politicians can overcome this just like Trump could not talk his way out of his piss poor COVID response.

Dems have one shot at this..

1. Abortion access
2. Fascism
3. Media bias and lies.. In other words.. out trump trump with the Anti-Media agenda (The media is out to get us and portray Trump as positive 24/7) !

Nail it home.

I've a hard time leaving labor rights out of top 3, but maybe it is a lower priority for most. However it can be microtargeted to the right people.