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FelixDeCat said:
Kamala appears to be:

1) Short sighted.
2) Irrational.
3) Short to anger.
4) Changes her personality and voice depending on the crowd. Her natural voice is very nasally, which you can replicate by closing one nostril with your finger and speaking out loud.

You will have to listen to that voice for the next 4 years. She is definitely not Obama if that is what you are thinking.

Presidents have to think several steps ahead, kind of like chess pieces. You cant say and do whatever comes to mind at the moment, like Trump is also prone to.
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Are you talking about Trump or Harris?


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Puffnstuff said:
My own father is 81 and winding down in the same way so I have a very clear grasp of what is happening.
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It is easy to tell who has never had to care for someone with this condition, or why they think someone with it can run a country. I'd imagine they have biden signs in their yard, bumper stickers, post about it on facebook, etc.
 
EduCat said:
It is easy to tell who has never had to care for someone with this condition, or why they think someone with it can run a country. I'd imagine they have biden signs in their yard, bumper stickers, post about it on facebook, etc.
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so you voting Trump?
 
If Felix doesn't like Kamala, that's an endorsement. He's a right wing racist misogynist that hasn't evolved. Who cares what they think
 
Brovane said:
The problem is when he mis-speaks in front of the world at really bad times. Nothing I have seen since the debate has convinced me that Biden doesn't have cognitive decline. I kept hoping that wasn't the case and it was just a off night.
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It's probably both. There's been enough reporting post-debate that he's had "issues" going back about a year. He had a strong SOTU, so there have been some whispers that it's gotten worse in the months after that.

A little slippage is not unexpected at age 81; heck I feel like slippage began for me at about half that age. The question for voters is the degree and the velocity of cognitive decline. I have no problem with occasional gaffes and stuttering; that comes with Joe Biden. But accidentally flipping Putin/Zelensky AND Trump/Harris in the most pivotal appearance of the week is pretty bad. This isn't just "aww shucks, he made a mistake."

Not that it bears repeating, but it doesn't affect your vote or mine. But there are tens of thousands of persuadable voters across 6 battleground states, and what they ultimately decide absolutely hinges on the quality of both the candidate and their campaign. For all those who exclaim Biden has done a great job overall, I agree. But we can wish all we want that low information voters will wake up and smell the coffee, but that doesn't mean it'll happen. People have been saying since late 2023 that given a little more time, the good macroeconomic news would be appreciated by the electorate; but we're still waiting while Biden's job approval rating is stuck at 39%. Historically, that's a losing figure for reelection.
 
Indus said:
so you voting Trump?
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I've never voted R in my life and I have never understood how people can idolize a reality TV loser scumbag so I'll prob vote for D at the end of the day, but I worry this circus could have serious effects for us. I obviously don't know what Bidens exact condition is but if it is an ailment I believe it to be, it will get exponentially worse. I've stated earlier in the thread I wouldn't let him drive to Sunday dinner, but somehow letting him run the show is ok. And I also stated I don't have any answers really because the pool of people is just so shit and bankrupt. But I do expect someone competent, at the very least.

Earlier people called me gettyroads that's how fucking stupid and irrational some people are.

:edit: for reference, my mom's EOF with lewy body disease amongst other things, very brutal.

Only real way to solve this is implement a strict ceiling in government. The same day you are eligible for retirement, you are no longer eligible to serve public office.
 
MrSquished said:
If Felix doesn't like Kamala, that's an endorsement. He's a right wing racist misogynist that hasn't evolved. Who cares what they think
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And you summed up the #1 reason why everyone here thinks you're the village idiot.

Any right wing former trump voter is worth 2 voters since you're taking 1 vote away from him and adding 1 to your candidates tally. But to you a migrant who steals our social services and sends our money back to Venezuela crime lords is more valuable than a right wing misogynist never Trumper who will vote for Biden since he's not dangerous to him.

But apparently I'm the one who needs a mental health evaluation LOL!
 
manly said:
Not that it bears repeating, but it doesn't affect your vote or mine. But there are tens of thousands of persuadable voters across 6 battleground states, and what they ultimately decide absolutely hinges on the quality of both the candidate and their campaign. For all those who exclaim Biden has done a great job overall, I agree. But we can wish all we want that low information voters will wake up and smell the coffee, but that doesn't mean it'll happen. People have been saying since late 2023 that given a little more time, the good macroeconomic news would be appreciated by the electorate; but we're still waiting while Biden's job approval rating is stuck at 39%. Historically, that's a losing figure for reelection.
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Media is complicit in this narrative but they should flat out ask all these bedwetting Dem congress critters and other talking heads, when your attempted coup fails and Biden is the party nominee, will you stand with him in November?
 
Indus said:
And you summed up the #1 reason why everyone here thinks you're the village idiot.

Any right wing former trump voter is worth 2 voters since you're taking 1 vote away from him and adding 1 to your candidates tally. But to you a migrant who steals our social services and sends our money back to Venezuela crime lords is more valuable than a right wing misogynist never Trumper who will vote for Biden since he's not dangerous to him.

But apparently I'm the one who needs a mental health evaluation LOL!
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You need one more than Joe Biden does.


eelw said:
Media is complicit in this narrative but they should flat out ask all these bedwetting Dem congress critters and other talking heads, when your attempted coup fails and Biden is the party nominee, will you stand with him in November?
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The vast majority of low info voters gives no shits about Beltway politics, and can't even name their elected representatives. Is the horrible media forcing everyone to irrationally disapprove of Joe Biden and like DJT again? (If so, how do you solve that?)
 
Indus said:
And you summed up the #1 reason why everyone here thinks you're the village idiot.

Any right wing former trump voter is worth 2 voters since you're taking 1 vote away from him and adding 1 to your candidates tally. But to you a migrant who steals our social services and sends our money back to Venezuela crime lords is more valuable than a right wing misogynist never Trumper who will vote for Biden since he's not dangerous to him.

But apparently I'm the one who needs a mental health evaluation LOL!
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Did a racist Indian cabbie punch you in the head recently?
 
MrSquished said:
Joe Biden is one egotistical delusional maniac. I honestly thought he was a good dude until this bullshit. Basically all the word from people that actually have access to him, who aren't in his inner circle cult, it all points you the same thing, the guy has declined way too much.

What a disgrace.

For a minute I thought the Democrats did have the courage and fortitude to do the right thing. Now they seem to be falling back to their usual being too timid and scared and they are too much about giving deference to established Dem pols. Even the ones that are well on their decline out of competency.
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The ONLY thing the Democrats could possibly do is get him disqualified via the 25th amendment. It's not up to them whether he runs or not. EVERY Dem senator and congress-critter could come out and tell him to drop out...but it's up to HIM at this point...

Now at the convention...the Dems could choose another candidate instead of Biden...I don't think that's ever happened before...but that would guarantee a Trump victory. (maybe that's your goal...eh?)
 
Puffnstuff said:
My own father is 81 and winding down in the same way so I have a very clear grasp of what is happening.
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I wanted to laugh at this post because it's insane that you think you can diagnose people from video clips simply because your dad has some symptoms, and also because as mentioned you've been duped by deceptively edited footage, but I didn't want that laugh to be interpreted as laughing at your fathers situation. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Except for Trump and his idiot spawn. And Clarence. And Alito. And, well, let's just say most Republican politicians at the federal level and most state levels and probably a lot of local levels as well. But that's it.
 
Puffnstuff said:
We can't unsee what we've already seen before and after the debate. My eyes and ears provided my brain with information that I processed without any media influence arriving at my own conclusion after which I discovered that many other people had also arrived at the same conclusion.

A lot of supporters are still in confirmation bias ignoring facts that don't align with their desire to believe that everything is okay which it is not.
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WTF said everything is OK?

Look, if Joe can maintain the level he's been on for 2 straight weeks now I think he's gonna win. Absent a pair of Democrats to supplant him and Kamala (there's nothing like a consensus right now), it's Go Joe!
 
I've been merely reading this thread but it's a circus so might as well join lol... Anyway, while I don't like how this situation has turned, you know how I know most people are just being swayed by the media? Because only NOW do they care so much about Biden mixing up names. Like that's HIS thing... He's got more gaffes than anyone I can think of. Yes, his mental decline is real (and doesn't help his gaffey ass) but let's not pretend we don't know Biden and how he speaks. Yes, he's low energy but he's old, af...

I don't know what the right answer is and I don't envy his position but I'm voting for anyone but Trump. Let's focus on putting the right candidate in 28... Kthxbye
 
Brovane said:
He would need to stop calling Zelensky Putin and Harris VP Trump. Biden's cognitive decline isn't going to get better.
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Biden's done that shit for decades. It doesn't mean his brain is fried. His job has been demanding and complicated. BFD if he mixes names up sometimes. I suppose you are perfect... The media seized on that stuff because it's the low hanging fruit and they're fucking lazy and don't want to get controversial because they might lose audience and sponsors. fuck em.
 
Indus said:
Have you seen AOC meme's.. it's fucking scary what the right wing makes up and she's not even running for senate or governor much less President!
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So we cannot run a woman of color for President because of scary right wing meme's?
 
MrSquished said:
People at that age don't get younger and gain back mental capacity. That's the difference. Biden looks bad when when he's supposedly doing good according to his fan base. It's just bad. How can it shift when he's only going to get worse? We know things about aging btw.
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Believe it or not an old person (or anybody) who's not functioning great can take a nap and then function a hell of a lot better.
 
Biden used to be a strong speaker which is apparent if you watch some of his old debates and conferences. If he's the candidate come November I'm still voting for him over the orange goblin but somebody please whisper in his ear to stop with the orange makeup.

This, however, is not good.

 
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