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Indus

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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gothuevos said:
I dunno dude...more and more Dems come out against him everyday and he just seems entrenched now. I could see this dragging on and then chaos at the convention...
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yottabit said:
Anecdotally I talked to a NH voter about the situation, someone who supports Biden and they insinuated they’d never vote for Kamala… when pressed for why I got “she’s awful” and “her politics suck” - they seemed to think other NH voters would share a similar sentiment and it would be a Hillary 2.0 type situation. I asked if he thought having a moderate white middle aged guy for VP would change things at all and they didn’t seem to care. This was basically my initial fears about Kamala for pres.

So maybe those of us living in solidly blue states are a bit delusional about it being a viable option. Biden seems to be doing a bit better post-presser. I know it’s easy to frame Biden as his “ego” keeping him in the race but that’s only the case if he’s actually wrong. Maybe he really is the only who can currently beat Trump?

I’m still at 50/50 overall, maybe 60/40 or even 70/30 he stays in after the most recent presser.
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Biden's the Night King. He doesn't die in season 4!

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Muse

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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eelw said:
Havent wasted my time to watch that click bait. I trust the WH Dr that is with him basically every day over armchair Drs. And I’ll repeat, it’s dereliction of his duty if he were to not diagnose, report and treat any health issues Biden were to have. Nope let’s trust these quacks instead.
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Didn't watch it and you have the chutzpah to pass judgement. Canny guy, you... Suit yourself, dummy. :rolleyes:
 
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K1052

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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skyking said:
No, there won't be setup quite like 2016 again.
The Comey letter did her in.
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No I mean Trump could maybe be in the Hillary position. Whenever I read about how his campaign thinks about this election it feels eerily similar. It would make overconfidence blush.

Non-zero chance we roll into E-day and Biden pulls off a narrow win a la Trump 2016.
 
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MrSquished

MrSquished

Lifer
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yottabit said:
Anecdotally I talked to a NH voter about the situation, someone who supports Biden and they insinuated they’d never vote for Kamala… when pressed for why I got “she’s awful” and “her politics suck” - they seemed to think other NH voters would share a similar sentiment and it would be a Hillary 2.0 type situation. I asked if he thought having a moderate white middle aged guy for VP would change things at all and they didn’t seem to care. This was basically my initial fears about Kamala for pres.

So maybe those of us living in solidly blue states are a bit delusional about it being a viable option. Biden seems to be doing a bit better post-presser. I know it’s easy to frame Biden as his “ego” keeping him in the race but that’s only the case if he’s actually wrong. Maybe he really is the only who can currently beat Trump?

I’m still at 50/50 overall, maybe 60/40 or even 70/30 he stays in after the most recent presser.
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I mean sure, there will be people like that, and some with that initial reaction. And that's why Biden needs to stop the fiasco because if Harris can campaign from next week to the election, that's a long time in politics. People don't even know why they don't like her. Many will change their minds not all. But also, Kamala will inspire a lot of people to go to the polls who were otherwise going to likely stay home.
 
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Brainonska511

Brainonska511

Lifer
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MrSquished said:
I mean sure, there will be people like that, and some with that initial reaction. And that's why Biden needs to stop the fiasco because if Harris can campaign from next week to the election, that's a long time in politics. People don't even know why they don't like her. Many will change their minds not all. But also, Kamala will inspire a lot of people to go to the polls who were otherwise going to likely stay home.
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So polling can change with shifting media narratives for Harris, but couldn't change for Biden if the media narrative shifted there?
 
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Indus

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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MrSquished said:
I mean sure, there will be people like that, and some with that initial reaction. And that's why Biden needs to stop the fiasco because if Harris can campaign from next week to the election, that's a long time in politics. People don't even know why they don't like her. Many will change their minds not all. But also, Kamala will inspire a lot of people to go to the polls who were otherwise going to likely stay home.
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Just stop dude.

You're thinking Hillary can change hearts and minds.. when the reality is you can get through to undecideds but not unfavorables.

Those who don't learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them!
 
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gothuevos

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After seeing the Michigan rally last night, I am changing my answer to 0% that he quits. I know these are carefully filled events, but I think all the chants of "don't quit" and "we got your back" will only harden Biden's resolve, for better or worse.

I'm not going to pretend like I know what the outcome will be...i don't think Biden's demise is guaranteed nor do I think Kamala Harris would be a success. Totally uncharted waters in today's climate. Either "camp" claiming otherwise is just guessing IMO.

I think Biden stays in and the cards will fall where they may.
 
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K1052

K1052

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I changed my vote from 30%, where I have left it the entire time, to 20%. Not sure but looks less likely at the moment. I don't think I'd zero out until the convention to accommodate uncertainty.
 
K1052

K1052

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The left flank are in safe seats and are not about to step out and be the ones who call for him to go. They are not going to give any reason to blame them if the outcome isn't good. Biden, willingly or not, is shouldering total responsibility here.
 
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Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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Puffnstuff said:
I'm sticking with 0% AKA a snowball's chance in hell that he'll quit.
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If he stays in the race he has a chance of winning. Personally I see that chance as 50/50. If he quits he has a zero percent chance of winning, seems like a no brainer to me.
 
MrSquished

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Joe Biden is one egotistical delusional maniac. I honestly thought he was a good dude until this bullshit. Basically all the word from people that actually have access to him, who aren't in his inner circle cult, it all points you the same thing, the guy has declined way too much.

What a disgrace.

For a minute I thought the Democrats did have the courage and fortitude to do the right thing. Now they seem to be falling back to their usual being too timid and scared and they are too much about giving deference to established Dem pols. Even the ones that are well on their decline out of competency.
 
trenchfoot

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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And still we are messaging about a convicted felon who has a crippling psychological condition of being a well known narcissist with an enormously huge inferiority complex that he hides behind a wall of brash bravado and bullying that's being played against a senior citizen on his last trip down the aisle that proved his mettle and exhibited and executed the proper guidance of the nation on the world stage. It's plain to see who's the good guy and who's the bad guy in this scenario yet there seems to be a mass case of Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to the perpetrator Trump. Why is that?

Just from being a narcissist alone would preclude anyone from being POTUS for the fact that making personal sacrifices for the good of the nation is a given in that job. Trump is incapable of doing that. His tenure as POTUS proved beyond all doubt that his narcissism caused the nation great harm and exposed us to unnecessary risk via his personal friendship with Putin and his total lack of the situational awareness he needed to keep America safe from people exactly like his pal Putin.

It's beyond me why he's still in the running other than the fact that Corporate America has decided the class warfare they've been running against the middle class and the poor have reached an event horizon where it's now time to show their hand and go all in on Trump. If there's any indicator of this it's how even MSNBC and CNN have been towing the corporate line of Biden bashing while remaining mostly silent on Trump and his testimonials to drag the nation into a dictatorship.
 
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